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Post by rogero1 on Dec 26, 2019 5:08:06 GMT -5
With the Fab Four having graduated from Stanford, a brief era has come to an end. In its wake lurk three schools that stood out to me as potential candidates to usher in a new era of program dominance in division one volleyball. With it now being the off season, there’s a little less fodder on this board to chew, so hopefully someone will be bored enough to read past this sentence and offer his or her good opinion. I’ll grant right off the bat that I don’t see Stanford going anywhere. It’s too great of a school with an amazing legacy in volleyball. While Kevin Habley still hasn’t coached a team he’s personally recruited to a championship, I just don’t see Stanford dropping out of the top four perpetual contenders. It lost a great senior class, and although they’re not as stacked next year, they’ve got a bunch of top recruits in the pipeline. The three other big ones (Penn State, Nebraska, Texas), however, show some signs of vulnerability. Hear me out… Yeah, yeah, yeah. All three are still armed with returning starters, promising recruits and and a pedigree of championships that scream “We’re still here!” But cracks have surfaced. Namely: Russ Rose and John Cook are old. It’s reasonable to assume that incoming freshmen in 2020 may be the last class of athletes either coach sees through their four years of college eligibility. Jerrit Elliot is only around 50. And while I expect that he’ll be the Texas coach for the foreseeable future, his dearth of national titles (despite annually landing the best high school players) portends a potential shift in recruits switching their allegiance--at least when they choose to play for a university in the state of Texas. That leads me to the first of three schools I see as having the potential to crack the seemingly impenetrable wall of top four programs: Baylor. They seemed to come out of nowhere this year, and making the final four, getting the top seed in the tournament, coach of the year, player of the year...they seem legit. And they’re returning the bulk of their team—with the addition of Lauren Harrison transferring in from North Carolina. Now, it’s very possible that they’ll be a flash in the pan and do well just to make the tournament after next year. After all, they need the recruits. But something seems to be brewing in Waco, and it’s not just the Jesus juice. Or is it? There was an interesting article that touched on the possibly unique experience students may be hoping to get when agreeing to play for Ryan McGuyre’s Bears. If you’re a high-level athlete who seeks a community of like-minded individuals, and know the coach specifically fosters that environment, I imagine it can be a very attractive prospect. McGuyre has turned the program into a national contender, and he’s young. He’s getting some top recruits for the first time in program history, and I wonder if the draw has been a cultural shift where he’s managed to nicely weave the best elements of faith and sport. Even my soulless cyniscim was touched by the shared prayer circle between Baylor and Wisconsin. Had I been cordially invited to participate as an athlete after that match (by the team who LOST for crying out loud), I think I would have said yes. To me, it seemed like a warm welcome into someone’s home. And to say this as a pretty staunch non-believer (Baptists are like Martians to me), I can only imagine how engaging it could be for the Baylor team to cultivate that sense of fellowship. I realize similar experiences are likely not unique to Baylor, but couple it with a great coach and some new success under your belts, and it may give recruits enough impetus to say “yes” to McGyure over Elliot. The other two teams I have in mind are a little less of a reach. After Hugh McCutcheon took over the helm from Mike Hebert at Minnesota in 2012, his team has reached the final four for the third time in five years. He also has the #1, #3, and #16 recruits in the nation coming to campus in 2020. The team is regularly landing top-ten recruits in general, is performing well in the B1G (especially when healthy), and McCutcheon, with his international resume is a big draw for kids, particularly in the Midwest. Minneapolis may not be as attractive as Austin or Palo Alto, but it’s a great city nonetheless, and with the aforementioned attributes, it’s not out of the realm of possibility to see a string of titles for the program over the next ten years. Minnesota right now sort of reminds me of Penn State in the mid to late 90s. Getting to some final fours, contending, landing some big recruits, but not quite going all the way. But once they do, they sort of go berserk with a dynasty-creating crop of athletes. Russ Rose has a generally laid back demeanor on the bench (not unlike McCutheon) but what he gets out of his teams, particularly come tournament time, is endlessly impressive to me. McCutcheon, I feel, has that same potential, and I believe his athletes see it too. There’s a huge following in Nebraska (my guess is because there’s little else to get excited about living in Lincoln), and regardless of the length of Cook’s remaining tenure, fans are unlikely to settle for a weak replacement when the time comes. My wish for the Huskers to stop contending for titles is more due to the fact that I, like most folks in the other 49 states, dislike John Cook. Forget the pissed off look he always has on his deflated face, he’s just not gracious enough when talking about other teams or programs. He comments way too often in bad faith, and ever since his daughter’s hit-and-run in 2011 where he said “I wish my kid was a sorority girl then this wouldn’t be a big deal,” I’ve just had a strong aversion to him and his character. With that in mind, the Wisconsin Badgers may be the heir-apparent to the B1G’s most recent national champion. They’ve had the Huskers’ number as of late (dare I bring up the three sweeps in a single season?), and from what I can tell, Madison is arguably scoring the edge in recruiting over the next two to three seasons. Let’s not forget that the core of this year’s championship final team is returning, with essentially only Madison Duello and Tiffany Clark to replace. That’s very doable, including another year of experience for the other members of this already-potent starting lineup. So, it seems to come down to why players would want to play for certain programs. Legacy + current coaching staff I imagine are the main two factors, with overall impression of the campus and what offerings it has for any individual student athlete’s particular interest of study. I feel like USC, UCLA, Long Beach State, Florida, and Hawai’i have had their day, and are stagnant in regard to the next five years...at least when considering title chances. Maybe we’ll see further breakouts from Kentucky, Utah, Creighton or Pittsburgh. But I doubt it. When all is said and done, Texas, Penn State and Nebraska are going to continue to be powerhouses into the next decade (Stanford stands alone now). But I’ll be curious to see the development of Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Baylor as potentially the next trio of perennial final four and championship contenders. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Previously at the West Coast schools, it was generally acknowledged that they were an attractive location & weather with top level volleyball and a good coach. Now, it’s more about the coaches & what they can do for your post-collegiate career, fitting into the team dynamics, and having a young or female coach on staff to relate to. As a former B1G coach told me, they were successful due to their young (mid-20’s) assistants to bring in the players. |
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Post by jasonr on Dec 26, 2019 12:59:07 GMT -5
Could you provide an example of where he wasn't gracious? He has many pressers online and even more quotes available. ...but there have been multiple times where Coach Cook, while maybe not outwardly disrespectful, could definitely have been much more gracious when talking about another program or team. The bold italicized part is the salient point, and I believe, matter to interpretation. If he's not disrespectful and has been gracious to some degree, then anything beyond that is for each person to interpret and not on him. The truth is, if someone wants to denigrate him, or any coach, they will always find that the coach in question did not go far enough in respecting or praising the other team. |
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Post by jasonr on Dec 26, 2019 13:05:11 GMT -5
While each coach has pluses and minuses, is it possible that McCutcheon's contacts -- in particular, his international contacts -- might give him a recruiting advantage for players looking to continue playing well beyond their college years? Or do other coaches have equivalent ties and respect internationally? A coach's personal international contacts are mostly meaningless. The only thing that matters is if the player is good enough to play professionally, then those clubs, and the agents mediating the whole process, will find the players. McCutcheon's biggest advantage is the same one all the other big programs have, in that they're high profile and develop players/teams well, and that means agents and professional teams will evaluate their players for prospects. |
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Post by deohge on Dec 31, 2019 9:44:09 GMT -5
With the Fab Four having graduated from Stanford, a brief era has come to an end. In its wake lurk three schools that stood out to me as potential candidates to usher in a new era of program dominance in division one volleyball. With it now being the off season, there’s a little less fodder on this board to chew, so hopefully someone will be bored enough to read past this sentence and offer his or her good opinion. I’ll grant right off the bat that I don’t see Stanford going anywhere. It’s too great of a school with an amazing legacy in volleyball. While Kevin Habley still hasn’t coached a team he’s personally recruited to a championship, I just don’t see Stanford dropping out of the top four perpetual contenders. It lost a great senior class, and although they’re not as stacked next year, they’ve got a bunch of top recruits in the pipeline. The three other big ones (Penn State, Nebraska, Texas), however, show some signs of vulnerability. Hear me out… Yeah, yeah, yeah. All three are still armed with returning starters, promising recruits and and a pedigree of championships that scream “We’re still here!” But cracks have surfaced. Namely: Russ Rose and John Cook are old. It’s reasonable to assume that incoming freshmen in 2020 may be the last class of athletes either coach sees through their four years of college eligibility. Jerrit Elliot is only around 50. And while I expect that he’ll be the Texas coach for the foreseeable future, his dearth of national titles (despite annually landing the best high school players) portends a potential shift in recruits switching their allegiance--at least when they choose to play for a university in the state of Texas. That leads me to the first of three schools I see as having the potential to crack the seemingly impenetrable wall of top four programs: Baylor. They seemed to come out of nowhere this year, and making the final four, getting the top seed in the tournament, coach of the year, player of the year...they seem legit. And they’re returning the bulk of their team—with the addition of Lauren Harrison transferring in from North Carolina. Now, it’s very possible that they’ll be a flash in the pan and do well just to make the tournament after next year. After all, they need the recruits. But something seems to be brewing in Waco, and it’s not just the Jesus juice. Or is it? There was an interesting article that touched on the possibly unique experience students may be hoping to get when agreeing to play for Ryan McGuyre’s Bears. If you’re a high-level athlete who seeks a community of like-minded individuals, and know the coach specifically fosters that environment, I imagine it can be a very attractive prospect. McGuyre has turned the program into a national contender, and he’s young. He’s getting some top recruits for the first time in program history, and I wonder if the draw has been a cultural shift where he’s managed to nicely weave the best elements of faith and sport. Even my soulless cyniscim was touched by the shared prayer circle between Baylor and Wisconsin. Had I been cordially invited to participate as an athlete after that match (by the team who LOST for crying out loud), I think I would have said yes. To me, it seemed like a warm welcome into someone’s home. And to say this as a pretty staunch non-believer (Baptists are like Martians to me), I can only imagine how engaging it could be for the Baylor team to cultivate that sense of fellowship. I realize similar experiences are likely not unique to Baylor, but couple it with a great coach and some new success under your belts, and it may give recruits enough impetus to say “yes” to McGyure over Elliot. The other two teams I have in mind are a little less of a reach. After Hugh McCutcheon took over the helm from Mike Hebert at Minnesota in 2012, his team has reached the final four for the third time in five years. He also has the #1, #3, and #16 recruits in the nation coming to campus in 2020. The team is regularly landing top-ten recruits in general, is performing well in the B1G (especially when healthy), and McCutcheon, with his international resume is a big draw for kids, particularly in the Midwest. Minneapolis may not be as attractive as Austin or Palo Alto, but it’s a great city nonetheless, and with the aforementioned attributes, it’s not out of the realm of possibility to see a string of titles for the program over the next ten years. Minnesota right now sort of reminds me of Penn State in the mid to late 90s. Getting to some final fours, contending, landing some big recruits, but not quite going all the way. But once they do, they sort of go berserk with a dynasty-creating crop of athletes. Russ Rose has a generally laid back demeanor on the bench (not unlike McCutheon) but what he gets out of his teams, particularly come tournament time, is endlessly impressive to me. McCutcheon, I feel, has that same potential, and I believe his athletes see it too. There’s a huge following in Nebraska (my guess is because there’s little else to get excited about living in Lincoln), and regardless of the length of Cook’s remaining tenure, fans are unlikely to settle for a weak replacement when the time comes. My wish for the Huskers to stop contending for titles is more due to the fact that I, like most folks in the other 49 states, dislike John Cook. Forget the pissed off look he always has on his deflated face, he’s just not gracious enough when talking about other teams or programs. He comments way too often in bad faith, and ever since his daughter’s hit-and-run in 2011 where he said “I wish my kid was a sorority girl then this wouldn’t be a big deal,” I’ve just had a strong aversion to him and his character. With that in mind, the Wisconsin Badgers may be the heir-apparent to the B1G’s most recent national champion. They’ve had the Huskers’ number as of late (dare I bring up the three sweeps in a single season?), and from what I can tell, Madison is arguably scoring the edge in recruiting over the next two to three seasons. Let’s not forget that the core of this year’s championship final team is returning, with essentially only Madison Duello and Tiffany Clark to replace. That’s very doable, including another year of experience for the other members of this already-potent starting lineup. So, it seems to come down to why players would want to play for certain programs. Legacy + current coaching staff I imagine are the main two factors, with overall impression of the campus and what offerings it has for any individual student athlete’s particular interest of study. I feel like USC, UCLA, Long Beach State, Florida, and Hawai’i have had their day, and are stagnant in regard to the next five years...at least when considering title chances. Maybe we’ll see further breakouts from Kentucky, Utah, Creighton or Pittsburgh. But I doubt it. When all is said and done, Texas, Penn State and Nebraska are going to continue to be powerhouses into the next decade (Stanford stands alone now). But I’ll be curious to see the development of Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Baylor as potentially the next trio of perennial final four and championship contenders. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Nice break down, very insightful. |
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Post by photos1 on Dec 31, 2019 12:00:45 GMT -5
John Cook...Forget the pissed off look he always has on his deflated face, he’s just not gracious enough when talking about other teams or programs. He comments way too often in bad faith. Watch his comments about Hawaii and RAM. That's not gracious? ....and from what I can tell, Madison is arguably scoring the edge in recruiting over the next two to three seasons. Are you aware that Nebraska will have the #1 recruiting class in the nation next year with a likely three top 10 senior aces including possibly the top two players in the country in Orr and Krause? Jason, don’t bring facts into the conversation. . . Nebraska is done. . . Cook is “old”. And that ‘DreamTEAM’ moniker for the 2021 class is all hype, right? Having the starting setter, OH and L on USA U18 world championship team verbally committed to Nebraska really says nothing about the 2021 class or Nebaska’s future prospects. . . After all, Cook is “old”. So Jason, stop with the facts, Nebraska is clearly on the downtrend-they couldn’t’ even make it to the FF this year. Cook clearly can’t keep good assistant coaches. In just the past 4 years Tamas(2), DKB, Hildebrand(2) and now Banwarth have fled the scene for inferior programs . . . Hildebrand isn’t even coaching indoor volleyball any longer. Cook can’t replace these coaches, and this year is proof. . . Just a disaster of a season-well the worst in 5 years. Cook is “old” and his training methods can’t keep quality assistant coaches, clearly. How much longer can Cook continue to lure these great coaches to the program until the word leaks out its only a temp position? Why would anyone with great potential want to be Cook’s assistant coach if they aren’t going to be around more than one or two years? That’s not stability. Cook Is “old”, and clearly no assistant coach wants to stay with him. Clearly, Wisconsin has passed Nebraska. . . Clearly. . . So Jason, in the future, keep the facts out. . .just shoot from the hip and pretend that trumps facts. “Snark” |
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Post by azsker on Dec 31, 2019 14:34:52 GMT -5
I can't explain the miracle of Penn State volleyball. There is no reason for top-notch volleyball to appear there, multi-hundreds/thousands of miles from talent centers. Russ Rose left Nebraska, went to an even more remote spot on the map, in terms of volleyball interest, and then did THAT -- pretty amazing, especially because he's done it all WHILE SEATED. :-) The post-Russ era will likely depend largely on the specific individual who succeeds him. Neither can I explain the miracle of USC and UCLA not making it a “big six” conversation. Texas and Stanford -- their success makes total sense and I'd expect them to contend for the rest of our lives. Nebraska also makes total sense, but only in hindsight and thanks to brilliance of Terry Pettit….. He enriched and tilled the soil of Nebraska high school educators/volleyball coaches, who stayed for DECADES and were happy to benefit from/feed the state university, he farmed the character and athleticism of Nebraska girls and gave them their own place in a football -crazy state, he co-opted the paternal/maternal spirit of the Nebraska football fan base, he leveraged Nebraska public TV and commercial radio to showcase the talent, seed aspiration, and get inside the brains of Nebraskans to promote loyalty and ownership. Jordan Larson is the epitome of the Nebraska volleyball culture AND the pivot/transition from Pettit to Cook. Cook's first and second national titles were maybe derivative of the Pettit years but his third and fourth are his, thanks in no small part to his own innovation and adaptability. But no matter the particulars, what'll help the Huskers stay relevant is the deep, statewide understanding and commitment to youth development, helping young women come of age. Most successful seasons, the best ones anyway, feature some version of the coach yielding to the players saying, “Thanks coach, we’ll take it from here.” Nebraska volleyball is a laboratory for this endeavor, on a stage and in extremely tight closeup. are PSU’s best players not from Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky? All states that border Pennsylvania? |
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 31, 2019 15:55:27 GMT -5
Watch his comments about Hawaii and RAM. That's not gracious? Are you aware that Nebraska will have the #1 recruiting class in the nation next year with a likely three top 10 senior aces including possibly the top two players in the country in Orr and Krause? Jason, don’t bring facts into the conversation. . . Nebraska is done. . . Cook is “old”. And that ‘DreamTEAM’ moniker for the 2021 class is all hype, right? Having the starting setter, OH and L on USA U18 world championship team verbally committed to Nebraska really says nothing about the 2021 class or Nebaska’s future prospects. . . After all, Cook is “old”. So Jason, stop with the facts, Nebraska is clearly on the downtrend-they couldn’t’ even make it to the FF this year. Cook clearly can’t keep good assistant coaches. In just the past 4 years Tamas(2), DKB, Hildebrand(2) and now Banwarth have fled the scene for inferior programs . . . Hildebrand isn’t even coaching indoor volleyball any longer. Cook can’t replace these coaches, and this year is proof. . . Just a disaster of a season-well the worst in 5 years. Cook is “old” and his training methods can’t keep quality assistant coaches, clearly. How much longer can Cook continue to lure these great coaches to the program until the word leaks out its only a temp position? Why would anyone with great potential want to be Cook’s assistant coach if they aren’t going to be around more than one or two years? That’s not stability. Cook Is “old”, and clearly no assistant coach wants to stay with him. Clearly, Wisconsin has passed Nebraska. . . Clearly. . . So Jason, in the future, keep the facts out. . .just shoot from the hip and pretend that trumps facts. “Snark” Sorry, but weren’t Oglivie and Mruzik the starting OHs for most if not all of the matches for USA U18 |
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Post by mikevolley on Dec 31, 2019 18:09:40 GMT -5
Im not sure there has been a changing of the guard. I think if anything like most sports that were once regionally dominated, there are other programs from unexpected places stepping up but I dont see any evidence to support that Stanford, PSU, Nebraska, or Texas will be losing any steam. I do think it'll be harder to have repeat National Champs in the years coming but those teams will always be in contention and they way they recruit supports that theory.
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Post by vbjustice on Dec 31, 2019 18:28:21 GMT -5
Not to be a Donnie Downer, as much as I loved the Baylor 2019 team I am unsure of it’s future starting in 2021 based on their commitment lineup that class through class of 2022. They still have Press for 2020 and strong transfer talent so I think they will hold steady for another year but beyond that the future is unclear.
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Post by hochee on Jan 5, 2020 11:09:41 GMT -5
I can't explain the miracle of Penn State volleyball. There is no reason for top-notch volleyball to appear there, multi-hundreds/thousands of miles from talent centers. Russ Rose left Nebraska, went to an even more remote spot on the map, in terms of volleyball interest, and then did THAT -- pretty amazing, especially because he's done it all WHILE SEATED. :-) The post-Russ era will likely depend largely on the specific individual who succeeds him. Neither can I explain the miracle of USC and UCLA not making it a “big six” conversation. Texas and Stanford -- their success makes total sense and I'd expect them to contend for the rest of our lives. Nebraska also makes total sense, but only in hindsight and thanks to brilliance of Terry Pettit….. He enriched and tilled the soil of Nebraska high school educators/volleyball coaches, who stayed for DECADES and were happy to benefit from/feed the state university, he farmed the character and athleticism of Nebraska girls and gave them their own place in a football -crazy state, he co-opted the paternal/maternal spirit of the Nebraska football fan base, he leveraged Nebraska public TV and commercial radio to showcase the talent, seed aspiration, and get inside the brains of Nebraskans to promote loyalty and ownership. Jordan Larson is the epitome of the Nebraska volleyball culture AND the pivot/transition from Pettit to Cook. Cook's first and second national titles were maybe derivative of the Pettit years but his third and fourth are his, thanks in no small part to his own innovation and adaptability. But no matter the particulars, what'll help the Huskers stay relevant is the deep, statewide understanding and commitment to youth development, helping young women come of age. Most successful seasons, the best ones anyway, feature some version of the coach yielding to the players saying, “Thanks coach, we’ll take it from here.” Nebraska volleyball is a laboratory for this endeavor, on a stage and in extremely tight closeup. are PSU’s best players not from Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky? All states that border Pennsylvania? PSU does have a loosely regional roster, which is my point. I'm suggesting it'll take as remarkable an individual as Russ to keep Penn State among the Big Four when he moves on, because Pennsylvania doesn't have a super-strong volleyball culture. |
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Post by aezor on Jan 6, 2020 13:32:03 GMT -5
Watch his comments about Hawaii and RAM. That's not gracious? Are you aware that Nebraska will have the #1 recruiting class in the nation next year with a likely three top 10 senior aces including possibly the top two players in the country in Orr and Krause? Jason, don’t bring facts into the conversation. . . Nebraska is done. . . Cook is “old”. And that ‘DreamTEAM’ moniker for the 2021 class is all hype, right? Having the starting setter, OH and L on USA U18 world championship team verbally committed to Nebraska really says nothing about the 2021 class or Nebaska’s future prospects. . . After all, Cook is “old”. So Jason, stop with the facts, Nebraska is clearly on the downtrend-they couldn’t’ even make it to the FF this year. Cook clearly can’t keep good assistant coaches. In just the past 4 years Tamas(2), DKB, Hildebrand(2) and now Banwarth have fled the scene for inferior programs . . . Hildebrand isn’t even coaching indoor volleyball any longer. Cook can’t replace these coaches, and this year is proof. . . Just a disaster of a season-well the worst in 5 years. Cook is “old” and his training methods can’t keep quality assistant coaches, clearly. How much longer can Cook continue to lure these great coaches to the program until the word leaks out its only a temp position? Why would anyone with great potential want to be Cook’s assistant coach if they aren’t going to be around more than one or two years? That’s not stability. Cook Is “old”, and clearly no assistant coach wants to stay with him. Clearly, Wisconsin has passed Nebraska. . . Clearly. . . So Jason, in the future, keep the facts out. . .just shoot from the hip and pretend that trumps facts. “Snark” Any thoughts on why this happens, outside of being old? I am also wondering why you think the training methods are what drives the assistant coaches away. Pure curiosity. |
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Post by HappyVolley on Jan 6, 2020 13:47:35 GMT -5
I can't explain the miracle of Penn State volleyball. There is no reason for top-notch volleyball to appear there, multi-hundreds/thousands of miles from talent centers. Russ Rose left Nebraska, went to an even more remote spot on the map, in terms of volleyball interest, and then did THAT -- pretty amazing, especially because he's done it all WHILE SEATED. :-) The post-Russ era will likely depend largely on the specific individual who succeeds him. Neither can I explain the miracle of USC and UCLA not making it a “big six” conversation. Texas and Stanford -- their success makes total sense and I'd expect them to contend for the rest of our lives. Nebraska also makes total sense, but only in hindsight and thanks to brilliance of Terry Pettit….. He enriched and tilled the soil of Nebraska high school educators/volleyball coaches, who stayed for DECADES and were happy to benefit from/feed the state university, he farmed the character and athleticism of Nebraska girls and gave them their own place in a football -crazy state, he co-opted the paternal/maternal spirit of the Nebraska football fan base, he leveraged Nebraska public TV and commercial radio to showcase the talent, seed aspiration, and get inside the brains of Nebraskans to promote loyalty and ownership. Jordan Larson is the epitome of the Nebraska volleyball culture AND the pivot/transition from Pettit to Cook. Cook's first and second national titles were maybe derivative of the Pettit years but his third and fourth are his, thanks in no small part to his own innovation and adaptability. But no matter the particulars, what'll help the Huskers stay relevant is the deep, statewide understanding and commitment to youth development, helping young women come of age. Most successful seasons, the best ones anyway, feature some version of the coach yielding to the players saying, “Thanks coach, we’ll take it from here.” Nebraska volleyball is a laboratory for this endeavor, on a stage and in extremely tight closeup. are PSU’s best players not from Indiana, Ohio and Kentucky? All states that border Pennsylvania? Indiana and Kentucky don't border Pennsylvania. PSU has gotten quite a few players from North Carolina, Florida, Texas, California, Colorado, etc. |
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Post by photos1 on Jan 6, 2020 16:42:23 GMT -5
Jason, don’t bring facts into the conversation. . . Nebraska is done. . . Cook is “old”. And that ‘DreamTEAM’ moniker for the 2021 class is all hype, right? Having the starting setter, OH and L on USA U18 world championship team verbally committed to Nebraska really says nothing about the 2021 class or Nebaska’s future prospects. . . After all, Cook is “old”. So Jason, stop with the facts, Nebraska is clearly on the downtrend-they couldn’t’ even make it to the FF this year. Cook clearly can’t keep good assistant coaches. In just the past 4 years Tamas(2), DKB, Hildebrand(2) and now Banwarth have fled the scene for inferior programs . . . Hildebrand isn’t even coaching indoor volleyball any longer. Cook can’t replace these coaches, and this year is proof. . . Just a disaster of a season-well the worst in 5 years. Cook is “old” and his training methods can’t keep quality assistant coaches, clearly. How much longer can Cook continue to lure these great coaches to the program until the word leaks out its only a temp position? Why would anyone with great potential want to be Cook’s assistant coach if they aren’t going to be around more than one or two years? That’s not stability. Cook Is “old”, and clearly no assistant coach wants to stay with him. Clearly, Wisconsin has passed Nebraska. . . Clearly. . . So Jason, in the future, keep the facts out. . .just shoot from the hip and pretend that trumps facts. “Snark” Sorry, but weren’t Oglivie and Mruzik the starting OHs for most if not all of the matches for USA U18 You missed the entire point of the post. . . A lot of looking but not seeing, hearing but not listening angd reading but not comprehending going on these days. . . Sorry. |
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Post by photos1 on Jan 6, 2020 17:04:51 GMT -5
Jason, don’t bring facts into the conversation. . . Nebraska is done. . . Cook is “old”. And that ‘DreamTEAM’ moniker for the 2021 class is all hype, right? Having the starting setter, OH and L on USA U18 world championship team verbally committed to Nebraska really says nothing about the 2021 class or Nebaska’s future prospects. . . After all, Cook is “old”. So Jason, stop with the facts, Nebraska is clearly on the downtrend-they couldn’t’ even make it to the FF this year. Cook clearly can’t keep good assistant coaches. In just the past 4 years Tamas(2), DKB, Hildebrand(2) and now Banwarth have fled the scene for inferior programs . . . Hildebrand isn’t even coaching indoor volleyball any longer. Cook can’t replace these coaches, and this year is proof. . . Just a disaster of a season-well the worst in 5 years. Cook is “old” and his training methods can’t keep quality assistant coaches, clearly. How much longer can Cook continue to lure these great coaches to the program until the word leaks out its only a temp position? Why would anyone with great potential want to be Cook’s assistant coach if they aren’t going to be around more than one or two years? That’s not stability. Cook Is “old”, and clearly no assistant coach wants to stay with him. Clearly, Wisconsin has passed Nebraska. . . Clearly. . . So Jason, in the future, keep the facts out. . .just shoot from the hip and pretend that trumps facts. “Snark” Any thoughts on why this happens, outside of being old? I am also wondering why you think the training methods are what drives the assistant coaches away. Pure curiosity. You do understand I was being sarcastic, right? The entire post was being sarcastic. . . Cook is more physically prepared for the riggers of this position than he was a decade ago. . .new hips tend to do that. My guess is he’s got at least 4 years and probably 5 years left as the HC. Cook can’t keep assistants because he only hires the best VB minds available. . . Tomas and Hildebrand are world class coaches and the countdown for their stays in Lincoln began from the second they both stepped in the Devaney. IMO, it is not the same for Jaylen. . . Jaylen is younger and at a different point in his coaching evolution than either Tomas or Hildebrand were when they began their time in Lincoln and I think he can see himself in Cook’s spot in 5 years. . . |
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Post by Disc808 on Jan 6, 2020 17:08:51 GMT -5
Sorry, but weren’t Oglivie and Mruzik the starting OHs for most if not all of the matches for USA U18 You missed the entire point of the post. . . A lot of looking but not seeing, hearing but not listening angd reading but not comprehending going on these days. . . Sorry. Nah I don’t really care about the point of your post lol, just pointing out something that was wrong |
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