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Post by tamz on Jan 19, 2020 17:44:57 GMT -5
Looks like Jose Loiola is back to coaching Sara Hughes (and Lauren Fendrick).
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Post by newbeach on Jan 19, 2020 18:03:43 GMT -5
I don't think 6'2" would be an accurate cap at World tour level. I think we will see 6'3" and 6'4" blockers be just as mobile as a 6'2 blocker. Players like Pavan and Plummer have their height advantages, and can afford to be a little less mobile. Blockers like Graudina and Brandie have their strengths as well. I think the key is having the right partner to work with the blockers' strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 19, 2020 22:15:29 GMT -5
I don't think 6'2" would be an accurate cap at World tour level. I think we will see 6'3" and 6'4" blockers be just as mobile as a 6'2 blocker. Players like Pavan and Plummer have their height advantages, and can afford to be a little less mobile. Blockers like Graudina and Brandie have their strengths as well. I think the key is having the right partner to work with the blockers' strengths and weaknesses. Lots of weird size claims being made. Kerri Alix Pavs Ana all over 6'2, all top 10 blockers in the world right now
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Post by newbeach on Jan 20, 2020 23:21:19 GMT -5
I don't think 6'2" would be an accurate cap at World tour level. I think we will see 6'3" and 6'4" blockers be just as mobile as a 6'2 blocker. Players like Pavan and Plummer have their height advantages, and can afford to be a little less mobile. Blockers like Graudina and Brandie have their strengths as well. I think the key is having the right partner to work with the blockers' strengths and weaknesses. Lots of weird size claims being made. Kerri Alix Pavs Ana all over 6'2, all top 10 blockers in the world right now Yeah, that was basically my point. There are lots of good blockers (listed above) over 6'2" and lots more coming in the future. That said, as mentioned before, you don't have to be taller than that to be a good blocker either!
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Post by itssteve on Jan 22, 2020 7:56:17 GMT -5
Lots of weird size claims being made. Kerri Alix Pavs Ana [b?r]all over 6'2, all top 10 blockers in the world right now Yeah, that was basically my point. There are lots of good blockers (listed above) over 6'2" and lots more coming in the future. That said, as mentioned before, you don't have to be taller than that to be a good blocker either! 6 out of the top 10 blockers in the world are under 6’2. Very interesting
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Post by wlwii on Jan 22, 2020 9:50:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that was basically my point. There are lots of good blockers (listed above) over 6'2" and lots more coming in the future. That said, as mentioned before, you don't have to be taller than that to be a good blocker either! 6 out of the top 10 blockers in the world are under 6’2. Very interesting When you take net height into consideration a 6’2” woman translates to 6’10” on a men’s net.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 22, 2020 10:18:57 GMT -5
6 out of the top 10 blockers in the world are under 6’2. Very interesting When you take net height into consideration a 6’2” woman translates to 6’10” on a men’s net. Thats an interesting calculation. Did you account for arm length and average jump? Would love to know how you came up with that
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Post by KAP on Jan 22, 2020 12:50:43 GMT -5
When you take net height into consideration a 6’2” woman translates to 6’10” on a men’s net. Thats an interesting calculation. Did you account for arm length and average jump? Would love to know how you came up with that If you scale a 6' 2" player on a women's net to the same height ratio on a men's net, it comes out to about 6' 8-1/4". It's not a perfect measurement, but it's probably a closer comparison. That would put a 6' 0" blocker, like Agatha at 6' 6-1/8", and a 6' 5" blocker, like Pavan at 6' 11-1/2".
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Post by wlwii on Jan 22, 2020 15:37:33 GMT -5
When you take net height into consideration a 6’2” woman translates to 6’10” on a men’s net. Thats an interesting calculation. Did you account for arm length and average jump? Would love to know how you came up with that No science at all, just noting no mention of almost 8” delta in net height in this discussion. Arm pits over, through the plane, blocking is available to much shorter peeps:)
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Post by wilbur on Jan 22, 2020 21:57:42 GMT -5
average 6'2" woman's beach player probably has a standing reach of 8' if she has long arms and a block jump in average FIVB sand of 9'6" to be generous.
If scaled by 8'/7.33' then that is a reach of 8'8" and a block touch of 10'4" and a height of 6'9".
those are some numbers I guessed at and extrapolated with simple math. Not far of from reality, maybe the men jump a little higher than that and are not as tall but the reach seems about right.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 23, 2020 5:17:54 GMT -5
average 6'2" woman's beach player probably has a standing reach of 8' if she has long arms and a block jump in average FIVB sand of 9'6" to be generous. If scaled by 8'/7.33' then that is a reach of 8'8" and a block touch of 10'4" and a height of 6'9". those are some numbers I guessed at and extrapolated with simple math. Not far of from reality, maybe the men jump a little higher than that and are not as tall but the reach seems about right. Your block jump numbers seem way too close. 18 inches for the women and 20 inches for men?
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Post by bombsaway on Jan 23, 2020 6:43:15 GMT -5
average 6'2" woman's beach player probably has a standing reach of 8' if she has long arms and a block jump in average FIVB sand of 9'6" to be generous. If scaled by 8'/7.33' then that is a reach of 8'8" and a block touch of 10'4" and a height of 6'9". those are some numbers I guessed at and extrapolated with simple math. Not far of from reality, maybe the men jump a little higher than that and are not as tall but the reach seems about right. Your block jump numbers seem way too close. 18 inches for the women and 20 inches for men? More easy math on this point. Maddy is roughly 6'4 (76"). An average male face is 10" long. Thus his chin sits at 66." He gets his face above the net regularly. The net at 8' is 96" high. To get his chin over (sometimes he is higher) is 30 inches out of the sand minimum. Cheers.
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Post by guest2 on Jan 23, 2020 7:18:21 GMT -5
Your block jump numbers seem way too close. 18 inches for the women and 20 inches for men? More easy math on this point. Maddy is roughly 6'4 (76"). An average male face is 10" long. Thus his chin sits at 66." He gets his face above the net regularly. The net at 8' is 96" high. To get his chin over (sometimes he is higher) is 30 inches out of the sand minimum. Cheers. Other than volleyballjim that is probably the best portion of a post this year
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Post by wilbur on Jan 23, 2020 14:07:55 GMT -5
average 6'2" woman's beach player probably has a standing reach of 8' if she has long arms and a block jump in average FIVB sand of 9'6" to be generous. If scaled by 8'/7.33' then that is a reach of 8'8" and a block touch of 10'4" and a height of 6'9". those are some numbers I guessed at and extrapolated with simple math. Not far of from reality, maybe the men jump a little higher than that and are not as tall but the reach seems about right. Your block jump numbers seem way too close. 18 inches for the women and 20 inches for men? not saying my numbers are correct, just providing an approach mathematically that scales my guess at average women's metrics with net height increase. Point was to show that it is not a good method to justify net appropriate net height or compare the two. Just adding/subtracting 8" as OP did wasn't either. I did say that men's jump height interpolated was low and height too tall. If I made same guess for top men's metrics like I did for women it would be: average 6'8" men's beach player probably has a standing reach of 8-8" with long arms and a block jump in average FIVB sand of 10'8" I will leave it up to someone else to develop the proper mathematical equation to convert VB metrics for men to women with a given net height delta...
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Post by wilbur on Jan 23, 2020 14:09:21 GMT -5
and when some one does I hope face length is part of the calculus.
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