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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 3, 2024 4:12:51 GMT -5
I didn't expect to see them since they don't need the points. Their passing on it also opens up the path for Treo and Mudinger to improve their position in the fight for a second USA berth.
It's been so long I forgot what we call them.. Milandy? Partandy? Anyway if they needed points they would be playing Guadalajara, and they're not. Just Tepic.
Menesh for me. Sounds like menace. Menacing block, menacing juke steps on defense. Yessss Menesh, thanks for remembering. |
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Post by graham on Apr 3, 2024 8:33:59 GMT -5
I didn't expect to see them since they don't need the points. Their passing on it also opens up the path for Treo and Mudinger to improve their position in the fight for a second USA berth. It's been so long I forgot what we call them.. Milandy? Partandy? Anyway if they needed points they would be playing Guadalajara, and they're not. Just Tepic.
Dont they need the finish though? And the points for seeding once in the Olympics? I believe a team can only use 1 result from a Continental Championship tournament for Olympic rankings. Maybe they figure the 720 points they earned last year is enough, and the potential to add only 80 more points isn't much of an incentive? |
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Post by rainmaker on Apr 3, 2024 9:39:02 GMT -5
I would argue the 80 is worth it, we have seen Olympic seeding decided by 20 points before..
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Post by ajm on Apr 3, 2024 10:24:55 GMT -5
I would argue the 80 is worth it, we have seen Olympic seeding decided by 20 points before.. And if they have any desire to be the best team in the world, they do need the points, they need the competition, they need the experience. They've skipped the last two Elite 16s, and now this. At some point you start to wonder if they even enjoy playing volleyball. I can't miss my weekly rec league games without going through withdrawal, yet these "professional" teams don't seem to mind taking 4-6 months off. They're missing one of only a small handful of opportunities to play in front of SoCal fans this year. They've ignored multiple false conflicting reports about why they aren't playing without a peep. They are basically silent on social media. This is the sort of thing that makes the USA men's teams difficult to root for. |
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Post by blackmambabeto on Apr 3, 2024 11:47:20 GMT -5
I would argue the 80 is worth it, we have seen Olympic seeding decided by 20 points before.. And if they have any desire to be the best team in the world, they do need the points, they need the competition, they need the experience. They've skipped the last two Elite 16s, and now this. At some point you start to wonder if they even enjoy playing volleyball. I can't miss my weekly rec league games without going through withdrawal, yet these "professional" teams don't seem to mind taking 4-6 months off. They're missing one of only a small handful of opportunities to play in front of SoCal fans this year. They've ignored multiple false conflicting reports about why they aren't playing without a peep. They are basically silent on social media. This is the sort of thing that makes the USA men's teams difficult to root for.
3 matches in ~5 hours?
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Post by graham on Apr 3, 2024 11:54:33 GMT -5
I would argue the 80 is worth it, we have seen Olympic seeding decided by 20 points before.. Not arguing against you here, but we've also seen Olympic seeding and elimination brackets get blown up by crappy performances in pool play. Which leads to top teams playing each other for 9th or 5th place! |
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Post by ajm on Apr 3, 2024 12:55:19 GMT -5
And if they have any desire to be the best team in the world, they do need the points, they need the competition, they need the experience. They've skipped the last two Elite 16s, and now this. At some point you start to wonder if they even enjoy playing volleyball. I can't miss my weekly rec league games without going through withdrawal, yet these "professional" teams don't seem to mind taking 4-6 months off. They're missing one of only a small handful of opportunities to play in front of SoCal fans this year. They've ignored multiple false conflicting reports about why they aren't playing without a peep. They are basically silent on social media. This is the sort of thing that makes the USA men's teams difficult to root for.
3 matches in ~5 hours?
Just noticed they’re on the Sandcast this week, so maybe they’ll provide a little clarity there. |
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Post by coachgabi on Apr 3, 2024 18:57:16 GMT -5
What date is the final:? The website says April 5th but I thought it was mid may?
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Post by blackmambabeto on Apr 3, 2024 20:35:14 GMT -5
What date is the final:? The website says April 5th but I thought it was mid may? They play the USAV matches April 5th in MB I don’t know when the Norceca matches are taking place for the winner guy/girl teams |
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Post by ajm on Apr 3, 2024 21:37:57 GMT -5
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 3, 2024 23:09:32 GMT -5
How are the seeds determined? Looks odd that the Taylors are seed 3 ahead of Cri... one would think FIVB Entry or Technical points would be used, since it is qualification for an FIVB tournament.
Actually a break for Mudinger to face the Taylors in the semis if seeds hold, and not a break for Treo to face Cri in the semis.
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Post by ccfan24 on Apr 3, 2024 23:11:47 GMT -5
And if they have any desire to be the best team in the world, they do need the points, they need the competition, they need the experience. They've skipped the last two Elite 16s, and now this. At some point you start to wonder if they even enjoy playing volleyball. I can't miss my weekly rec league games without going through withdrawal, yet these "professional" teams don't seem to mind taking 4-6 months off. They're missing one of only a small handful of opportunities to play in front of SoCal fans this year. They've ignored multiple false conflicting reports about why they aren't playing without a peep. They are basically silent on social media. This is the sort of thing that makes the USA men's teams difficult to root for.
3 matches in ~5 hours?
I believe it was Miles' elbow or shoulder. Something to do with his arm. I don't understand people suddenly questioning their love of playing volleyball. Miles left in the middle of what turned out to be a championship season at UCLA to focus on beach. (Yes, Rowan was eating into his playing time, but even Speraw said that Miles' mind was already on Paris). Andy changed his game in terms of willingness to jump set and option more to be competitive internationally. You saw their emotion when they won Gstaad. Eight months later, and they have lost their love of the game? Injuries happen. Down time is sometimes necessary to recharge. Especially when the FIVB doesn't penalize teams for skipping events. Hell, they don't even penalize for forfeiting pool matches. Maybe even playing the points game to insure direct MD entry for the remaining Elites? The Swedes aren't going to the next Elite. Uh oh, they must be getting sick of the game. |
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 3, 2024 23:22:33 GMT -5
didn't Trav mention they didn't play a certain Elite 16 because they were rehabbing an injury? maybe just resting up and don't want to tweak it before Tepic Elite 16
3 matches in ~5 hours?
I believe it was Miles' elbow or shoulder. Maybe even playing the points game to insure direct MD entry for the remaining Elites? The Swedes aren't going to the next Elite. Uh oh, they must be getting sick of the game. I don't think it's the points game. Menesh is qualified for Paris just by showing up at this point. The fact that they haven't played the recent E16s, nor are they playing Guadalajara Challenge, tells me somebody is rehabbing something. |
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Post by ajm on Apr 4, 2024 0:05:57 GMT -5
The Swedes aren't going to the next Elite. Uh oh, they must be getting sick of the game. The only time the Swedes skipped two Elite16s in a row is when Hellvig broke his hand. |
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 4, 2024 0:33:37 GMT -5
The Swedes aren't going to the next Elite. Uh oh, they must be getting sick of the game. The only time the Swedes skipped two Elite16s in a row is when Hellvig broke his hand. I don't think that serious response is what that dripping sarcasm from ccfan24 was going for. |
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