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Post by jeff1 on Oct 15, 2024 7:17:44 GMT -5
Men’s coaching positions at UCLA pay way more than women’s. Also, UCLA will not 3 Peat this year - it’s a rebuilding time with most of their top players having graduated. My guess is that if Hawks is the Head Coach, the team will have a mediocre record and he will be replaced a few years down the line. Hawks lacks the intellect or skills to ever be a great coach and would never even have been considered for the job if Speraw hadn’t pushed for him. Like Deshaun Foster in football, UCLA went for the cheap and wrong hire.
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Oct 15, 2024 8:34:03 GMT -5
Men’s coaching positions at UCLA pay way more than women’s. Also, UCLA will not 3 Peat this year - it’s a rebuilding time with most of their top players having graduated. My guess is that if Hawks is the Head Coach, the team will have a mediocre record and he will be replaced a few years down the line. Hawks lacks the intellect or skills to ever be a great coach and would never even have been considered for the job if Speraw hadn’t pushed for him. Like Deshaun Foster in football, UCLA went for the cheap and wrong hire. You still lack any logical substance in your arguments and are on an emotional rant.
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Post by shankapotamus on Oct 15, 2024 12:21:09 GMT -5
I kind of posted this on the podcast thread, but what candidates could there have been? I did a brainstorm of my own, but by no means do I claim to be at all near correct: 1) Stein Metzger has a nice house, a lot of money for his program and it seems he would be paid well. There's no way he'd leave. 2) Matt Fuerbringer - Head Coach of LOVB Madison. Daughter plays at Wisconsin for the next 4 years. NO 3) Nick Vogel - still "new"? 4) Brandon Taliafero - ? 5) Mike Cox - Coached alongside Speraw for the MNT ? 6) Matt Werle - ? 7) Jeff Nygaard - UCLA Alumnus, would he leave USC for his Alma Mater? 8) Brad Keller - would he consider jumping back into the Men's side? I would think, "no" because of the Big 10 $$$ 9) Brian Thornton - " " " I really am just brainstorming. Personally, Hawks knows the guys and with Speraw's MNT commitments in the early years, Hawks was co-running the Bruins. It seems to be a good hire. Maybe robonthemic can have the Coaching panel discuss this (along with the upcoming season) in an episode. Hint, hint...
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Post by gtrich on Oct 15, 2024 13:24:48 GMT -5
My first thought was David Hunt, but that Texas Women’s program money is probably a pretty good deal compared to what UCLA could offer.
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Post by robonthemic on Oct 15, 2024 13:29:21 GMT -5
I kind of posted this on the podcast thread, but what candidates could there have been? I did a brainstorm of my own, but by no means do I claim to be at all near correct: 1) Stein Metzger has a nice house, a lot of money for his program and it seems he would be paid well. There's no way he'd leave. 2) Matt Fuerbringer - Head Coach of LOVB Madison. Daughter plays at Wisconsin for the next 4 years. NO 3) Nick Vogel - still "new"? 4) Brandon Taliafero - ? 5) Mike Cox - Coached alongside Speraw for the MNT ? 6) Matt Werle - ? 7) Jeff Nygaard - UCLA Alumnus, would he leave USC for his Alma Mater? 8) Brad Keller - would he consider jumping back into the Men's side? I would think, "no" because of the Big 10 $$$ 9) Brian Thornton - " " " I really am just brainstorming. Personally, Hawks knows the guys and with Speraw's MNT commitments in the early years, Hawks was co-running the Bruins. It seems to be a good hire. Maybe robonthemic can have the Coaching panel discuss this (along with the upcoming season) in an episode. Hint, hint... We'll see. Hawks has done good things for the programs he's been involved in (USA, USC, Long Beach St., UCI, UCLA, Loyola, USANTDP, Club and HS) and is very well-respected and appreciated. The guys on the coaches' panel of CVW have worked closely with him for multiple years and believe John is a good hire. I'm a little biased since he is a long time friend (full disclosure) so I am very excited about his hiring, but hey, I'm just one of many opinions and that's ok.
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Post by blackmambabeto on Oct 15, 2024 16:12:36 GMT -5
I kind of posted this on the podcast thread, but what candidates could there have been? I did a brainstorm of my own, but by no means do I claim to be at all near correct: 1) Stein Metzger has a nice house, a lot of money for his program and it seems he would be paid well. There's no way he'd leave. 2) Matt Fuerbringer - Head Coach of LOVB Madison. Daughter plays at Wisconsin for the next 4 years. NO 3) Nick Vogel - still "new"? 4) Brandon Taliafero - ? 5) Mike Cox - Coached alongside Speraw for the MNT ? 6) Matt Werle - ? 7) Jeff Nygaard - UCLA Alumnus, would he leave USC for his Alma Mater? 8) Brad Keller - would he consider jumping back into the Men's side? I would think, "no" because of the Big 10 $$$ 9) Brian Thornton - " " " I really am just brainstorming. Personally, Hawks knows the guys and with Speraw's MNT commitments in the early years, Hawks was co-running the Bruins. It seems to be a good hire. Maybe robonthemic can have the Coaching panel discuss this (along with the upcoming season) in an episode. Hint, hint... dang, Karch didn't make top 9?
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Post by gobruins on Oct 16, 2024 2:39:40 GMT -5
I kind of posted this on the podcast thread, but what candidates could there have been? I did a brainstorm of my own, but by no means do I claim to be at all near correct: 1) Stein Metzger has a nice house, a lot of money for his program and it seems he would be paid well. There's no way he'd leave. 2) Matt Fuerbringer - Head Coach of LOVB Madison. Daughter plays at Wisconsin for the next 4 years. NO 3) Nick Vogel - still "new"? 4) Brandon Taliafero - ? 5) Mike Cox - Coached alongside Speraw for the MNT ? 6) Matt Werle - ? 7) Jeff Nygaard - UCLA Alumnus, would he leave USC for his Alma Mater? 8) Brad Keller - would he consider jumping back into the Men's side? I would think, "no" because of the Big 10 $$$ 9) Brian Thornton - " " " I really am just brainstorming. Personally, Hawks knows the guys and with Speraw's MNT commitments in the early years, Hawks was co-running the Bruins. It seems to be a good hire. Maybe robonthemic can have the Coaching panel discuss this (along with the upcoming season) in an episode. Hint, hint... The only name on this list who was a possibility was Fuerbringer. The LOVB position would not be a problem, it is just a part-time gig for a couple of months.
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Post by jcvball22 on Oct 16, 2024 12:41:30 GMT -5
I kind of posted this on the podcast thread, but what candidates could there have been? I did a brainstorm of my own, but by no means do I claim to be at all near correct: 1) Stein Metzger has a nice house, a lot of money for his program and it seems he would be paid well. There's no way he'd leave. 2) Matt Fuerbringer - Head Coach of LOVB Madison. Daughter plays at Wisconsin for the next 4 years. NO 3) Nick Vogel - still "new"? 4) Brandon Taliafero - ? 5) Mike Cox - Coached alongside Speraw for the MNT ? 6) Matt Werle - ? 7) Jeff Nygaard - UCLA Alumnus, would he leave USC for his Alma Mater? 8) Brad Keller - would he consider jumping back into the Men's side? I would think, "no" because of the Big 10 $$$ 9) Brian Thornton - " " " I really am just brainstorming. Personally, Hawks knows the guys and with Speraw's MNT commitments in the early years, Hawks was co-running the Bruins. It seems to be a good hire. Maybe robonthemic can have the Coaching panel discuss this (along with the upcoming season) in an episode. Hint, hint... The only name on this list who was a possibility was Fuerbringer. The LOVB position would not be a problem, it is just a part-time gig for a couple of months. At least one other person on this list besides Fuerbringer did an initial interview, so that isn't entirely accurate.
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Post by wilbur on Oct 16, 2024 19:13:07 GMT -5
The only name on this list who was a possibility was Fuerbringer. The LOVB position would not be a problem, it is just a part-time gig for a couple of months. At least one other person on this list besides Fuerbringer did an initial interview, so that isn't entirely accurate. I think head coach experience at a D1 men's team is a reasonable minimum criteria for any candidate. Only #1, 6, 7, 8 on the list had that. Some of htose probably weren't interested, others not as good a fit as Hawks. Something Rob's interview reminded me of that I hadn't thought of before is that Hawks already has relationship and personal familiarity with the majority of starters and the roster at UCLA which is a huge advantage for a new coach coming in. Despite what some others are saying I think UCLA is in the running this year, far from a rebuilding year. LB is the only team I think has an edge over them and it is close.
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Post by mmvb805 on Oct 16, 2024 19:40:16 GMT -5
At least one other person on this list besides Fuerbringer did an initial interview, so that isn't entirely accurate. I think head coach experience at a D1 men's team is a reasonable minimum criteria for any candidate. Only #1, 6, 7, 8 on the list had that. Some of htose probably weren't interested, others not as good a fit as Hawks. Something Rob's interview reminded me of that I hadn't thought of before is that Hawks already has relationship and personal familiarity with the majority of starters and the roster at UCLA which is a huge advantage for a new coach coming in. Despite what some others are saying I think UCLA is in the running this year, far from a rebuilding year. LB is the only team I think has an edge over them and it is close. Absolutely. The top 3 teams will very likely be Hawaii, LBSU, and UCLA, and I feel like the ranking is fairly interchangeable. I don’t understand how people think UCLA will be a lot worse this year. Cooper was amazing over the summer and he will almost certainly be in the running for NPOY
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 16, 2024 20:22:37 GMT -5
I think head coach experience at a D1 men's team is a reasonable minimum criteria for any candidate. Only #1, 6, 7, 8 on the list had that. Some of htose probably weren't interested, others not as good a fit as Hawks. Something Rob's interview reminded me of that I hadn't thought of before is that Hawks already has relationship and personal familiarity with the majority of starters and the roster at UCLA which is a huge advantage for a new coach coming in. Despite what some others are saying I think UCLA is in the running this year, far from a rebuilding year. LB is the only team I think has an edge over them and it is close. Absolutely. The top 3 teams will very likely be Hawaii, LBSU, and UCLA, and I feel like the ranking is fairly interchangeable. I don’t understand how people think UCLA will be a lot worse this year. Cooper was amazing over the summer and he will almost certainly be in the running for NPOY Is someone saying that UCLA won't be competitive THIS year? I don't see where that argument is being made (other than the one poster who clearly has an agenda).
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Post by mmvb805 on Oct 16, 2024 20:56:18 GMT -5
Absolutely. The top 3 teams will very likely be Hawaii, LBSU, and UCLA, and I feel like the ranking is fairly interchangeable. I don’t understand how people think UCLA will be a lot worse this year. Cooper was amazing over the summer and he will almost certainly be in the running for NPOY Is someone saying that UCLA won't be competitive THIS year? I don't see where that argument is being made (other than the one poster who clearly has an agenda). In the post I replied to, he was saying that people have said that, and I was simply saying I don’t see how people can think that
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 16, 2024 21:06:41 GMT -5
Is someone saying that UCLA won't be competitive THIS year? I don't see where that argument is being made (other than the one poster who clearly has an agenda). In the post I replied to, he was saying that people have said that, and I was simply saying I don’t see how people can think that I see. My question would have been better directed to that poster.
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Post by jeff1 on Oct 17, 2024 10:25:03 GMT -5
My point in saying that I don’t see a 3 peat for UCLA this year is not solely based on my belief that Hawks isn’t up to the task, but that UCLA lost a number of its best players to graduation, such as Alex Knight.
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 17, 2024 11:03:56 GMT -5
My point in saying that I don’t see a 3 peat for UCLA this year is not solely based on my belief that Hawks isn’t up to the task, but that UCLA lost a number of its best players to graduation, such as Alex Knight. Winning it all and being competitive are two different things, and are not mutually exclusive.
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