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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 14, 2024 13:43:29 GMT -5
lol, the lawsuit is political
it's not about winning a lawsuit that has no chance of winning
it's about the discovery/deposition process to get emails and correspondence to selectively say 'aha' towards individuals and try to shame people
the Mountain West Commissioner is/was in a no win position. but because she does not publicly denounce TGs and the NCAA, so the anti-TG will try to get her fired, for political purposes. as if she should have just barred SJSU unilateral
of course they could get some communications likely to be out of context. that's the goal likely. 'expose them'
note Wyoming's season went south once the subject came up and their first forfeit of 2. I have doubts the players or many wanted to forfeit, knowing their season and NCAA bid chances took a hit. different teams react differently. Utah State only had 1 loss on it, and seems to be doing well.
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Post by maigrey on Nov 14, 2024 13:59:42 GMT -5
Filed by whom? Interesting use of the passive voice there (lawsuit has been filed), but lawsuits don't file themselves. Real lawyers, please weigh in here. But I think they have pretty zero chance of getting such an injunction, based on 'likelihood of winning at trial"; and that there is a "laches" argument, in that the harm here isn't new, it's been happening all year. So why didn't you file this suit months ago? There is a line in the article saying that the MW's Transgender Participation Policy was implemented the say after the first forfeit, which would likely impact the 'happening all year's, but I can't find any actual evidence that this is something new and not a restatement of the 2022 NCAA policy that was already in effect. The conference forfeit rules have been in effect for some time, as has the participation policy (in actuality), so you'd think an injunction wouldn't be likely. I think it depends on where the law suit is being adjudicated (CA is much different than UT), and who the Judge is. (Disclaimer, not a lawyer, but have worked with plenty) |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 14, 2024 15:34:38 GMT -5
They will of course try to claim that the commissioner making a statement interpreting the existing rules and ruling on how they apply to this situation is the same thing as the commissioner making up the rules on the spot.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Nov 15, 2024 0:15:20 GMT -5
The Lobos beat Boise.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 20, 2024 1:25:11 GMT -5
Looks like SJSU vs. Boise State could be a 1st round match?
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 20, 2024 1:35:56 GMT -5
For what it's worth, a new lawsuit has been filed against the Mountain West seeking emergency injunctive relief. "The lawsuit thus seeks an injunction and asks for the conference to either disqualify San Jose State from competing in the conference tournament, disqualify Blaire Fleming from competing in the conference tournament, and/or remove the losses from the records of teams who protested by not competing against SJSU – and, subsequently, remove the wins from SJSU." But if I'm looking at the standings correctly, even if you simply removed the forfeited matches, the same six teams would qualify. San Jose would just be seeded lower with a 6-5 record. oooh, is it in Santa Clara County? If so, it's the same court that had to hear about Haley Hodson getting hit in the face and wanting millions of dollars. Between all the frivolous lawsuits from the tech companies arguing over money and employees misappropriating trade secrets to various property developers suing their contractors, the judges there probably welcome a good culture war issue lawsuit. |
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Post by Fight On! on Nov 20, 2024 1:46:28 GMT -5
For what it's worth, a new lawsuit has been filed against the Mountain West seeking emergency injunctive relief. "The lawsuit thus seeks an injunction and asks for the conference to either disqualify San Jose State from competing in the conference tournament, disqualify Blaire Fleming from competing in the conference tournament, and/or remove the losses from the records of teams who protested by not competing against SJSU – and, subsequently, remove the wins from SJSU." But if I'm looking at the standings correctly, even if you simply removed the forfeited matches, the same six teams would qualify. San Jose would just be seeded lower with a 6-5 record. oooh, is it in Santa Clara County? If so, it's the same court that had to hear about Haley Hodson getting hit in the face and wanting millions of dollars. Between all the frivolous lawsuits from the tech companies arguing over money and employees misappropriating trade secrets to various property developers suing their contractors, the judges there probably welcome a good culture war issue lawsuit. Pretty sure it’s in Colorado. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 20, 2024 2:56:35 GMT -5
oooh, is it in Santa Clara County? If so, it's the same court that had to hear about Haley Hodson getting hit in the face and wanting millions of dollars. Between all the frivolous lawsuits from the tech companies arguing over money and employees misappropriating trade secrets to various property developers suing their contractors, the judges there probably welcome a good culture war issue lawsuit. Pretty sure it’s in Colorado. Ah, I guess that would make sense if the MW is based in CO. These players/schools are suing the conference, not San Jose State specifically. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 20, 2024 2:59:07 GMT -5
oh to be a fly on the wall in the practice gym or the locker room at San Jose State. I can't imagine what the interaction is between Slusser and Flemming.
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Post by thedudeabides21 on Nov 20, 2024 6:24:45 GMT -5
Looks like SJSU vs. Boise State could be a 1st round match? Based on current standings they’d be on opposite sides of the bracket. SJSU would be a 4th seed and Boise 6th |
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Post by jumboshrimp on Nov 20, 2024 9:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 20, 2024 10:37:21 GMT -5
Options
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Boise plays Utah State for the opportunity to forfeit to San Jose
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Boise and Utah State lose 1st round.....too bad!
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San Jose doesn't play one match and gets the bid
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Boise and Utah State players decide to play. And declare they are protected, issuing statement. 'Whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas'
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Post by trojansc on Nov 20, 2024 11:30:04 GMT -5
Looks like SJSU vs. Boise State could be a 1st round match? Based on current standings they’d be on opposite sides of the bracket. SJSU would be a 4th seed and Boise 6th Im anticipating Utah State loses again (at least once) and SJSU has the tiebreaker |
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Post by hopefuldawg on Nov 20, 2024 12:05:20 GMT -5
Based on current standings they’d be on opposite sides of the bracket. SJSU would be a 4th seed and Boise 6th Im anticipating Utah State loses again (at least once) and SJSU has the tiebreaker Colorado State beats Utah State Utah State beats Wyoming Boise State beats Fresno State San Diego State beats New Mexico and Air Force That puts the seeding as follows: 1. Colorado State, 2. San Jose State, 3. Utah State, 4. Fresno State, 5. San Diego State, 6. Boise State SJSU would bye/forfeit their way to the final, which might not be ideal depending on your philosophy. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Nov 20, 2024 15:14:21 GMT -5
Pretty sure it’s in Colorado. Ah, I guess that would make sense if the MW is based in CO. These players/schools are suing the conference, not San Jose State specifically. suing for what? how are they going to make any argument, when they are suing 2 years after teh rule was made. wasn't the time to sue two years ago? |
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