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Post by azsker on Nov 10, 2024 10:33:54 GMT -5
Realistic hypothetical. Wisconsin wins out and Nebraska beats PSU and wins out except Wisconsin. PSU only loses to Nebraska. Louisville loses to Pitt and Stanford, who both win out. Creighton wins out. Even losing to Wisconsin, Pitt and Nebraska are 1 and 2. Who, among Stanford, Louisville, Penn State, Wisconsin and Creighton get to host the #3 and #4 regionals? I hope if Creighton can run the table and not drop a game, they get the 4 seed. Two 5-set losses to RPI 1 & 2 on the road? Win everything else? That’s pretty impressive |
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Post by ScottsTots on Nov 10, 2024 10:51:38 GMT -5
This was from the 11/2 thread, but this remains exactly what is going to happen for Creighton to get the No. 4:
Nov 2, 2024 21:35:17 GMT -5 ScottsTots said:
Am I wrong to think the correct combination of losses for Penn State and Wisconsin (and assuming Louisville beats Stanford) could put Creighton right there in the hunt for the No. 4? And that that combination is not super far-fetched? Wisconsin loses to Nebraska again, but beats Penn State. Penn State additionally loses to Nebraska and Purdue. Maybe Penn State needs one more L somewhere.
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Post by quackquack123 on Nov 10, 2024 11:25:45 GMT -5
Interesting. A predicted WKU loss in the CUSA Tournament with UTEP getting the automatic bid. Lol didn't WKU already beat them twice on their home floor? What am I missing? |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 10, 2024 11:38:52 GMT -5
Penn state plays Nebraska on the last day of the season - regionals will already be set and only changed in case of significant upsets. Losing to Nebraska will not bounce them.
Assuming they get by their remaining schedule, which I feel strongly they will, Penn St. gets the regional.
PSU has better wins than Creighton and common opponent advantage.
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 10, 2024 11:46:06 GMT -5
Penn state plays Nebraska on the last day of the season - regionals will already be set and only changed in case of significant upsets. Losing to Nebraska will not bounce them. Assuming they get by their remaining schedule, which I feel strongly they will, Penn St. gets the regional. PSU has better wins than Creighton and common opponent advantage. They play Nebraska on Friday, the 29th. Not quite the last day. Nebraska plays Maryland the next day (Saturday). |
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Post by gobigredno1 on Nov 10, 2024 11:57:39 GMT -5
Penn state plays Nebraska on the last day of the season - regionals will already be set and only changed in case of significant upsets. Losing to Nebraska will not bounce them. Assuming they get by their remaining schedule, which I feel strongly they will, Penn St. gets the regional. PSU has better wins than Creighton and common opponent advantage. PSU/Nebraska is not the final day of the regular season. They play on Friday night. That is PSU final match but Nebraska then plays Maryland on Saturday. The bracket will not come out until Sunday so those matches can absolutely change the seeding process |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 10, 2024 12:00:45 GMT -5
Penn state plays Nebraska on the last day of the season - regionals will already be set and only changed in case of significant upsets. Losing to Nebraska will not bounce them. Assuming they get by their remaining schedule, which I feel strongly they will, Penn St. gets the regional. PSU has better wins than Creighton and common opponent advantage. PSU/Nebraska is not the final day of the regular season. They play on Friday night. That is PSU final match but Nebraska then plays Maryland on Saturday. The bracket will not come out until Sunday so those matches can absolutely change the seeding process Not quite last day then, but That’s still very late and after the committee has already been meeting and setting seeds. We’ve seen for years that results that late will not move the bracket unless they are “shocking” and/or the H2H resolves something. PSU losing to Nebraska would not hurt them at that point. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Nov 10, 2024 12:06:55 GMT -5
Realistic hypothetical. Wisconsin wins out and Nebraska beats PSU and wins out except Wisconsin. PSU only loses to Nebraska. Louisville loses to Pitt and Stanford, who both win out. Creighton wins out. Even losing to Wisconsin, Pitt and Nebraska are 1 and 2. Who, among Stanford, Louisville, Penn State, Wisconsin and Creighton get to host the #3 and #4 regionals? I hope if Creighton can run the table and not drop a game, they get the 4 seed. Two 5-set losses to RPI 1 & 2 on the road? Win everything else? That’s pretty impressive I like Creighton but if your two best wins are Kansas and Purdue…. they could easily end up with 0 top 10 wins going into the tourney. Really tough to make an argument for a team to be a top 4 seed without any substantial wins imo. A crash out from Louisville or Penn state could make it happen, but if they both win the remaining matches they’re supposed to win I don’t see how Creighton passes either of them |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 10, 2024 12:19:17 GMT -5
I just don’t see how losing to Wisconsin moves the needle for Creighton when Creighton hasn’t beaten a team that good and Penn St. has.
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Post by bigtenchamp1997 on Nov 10, 2024 12:26:07 GMT -5
In my opinion they won’t put two regional final sites just miles away from each other. Lincoln and Omaha are just too close to each other. I suspect the sites will be spread out across the USA.
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Post by bborr on Nov 10, 2024 13:12:57 GMT -5
I just don’t see how losing to Wisconsin moves the needle for Creighton when Creighton hasn’t beaten a team that good and Penn St. has. Maybe the better question is Wisconsin vs Penn State, assuming Wisconsin beats Nebraska in Lincoln and Nebraska beats Penn State. I would put Wisconsin in over Penn State or Creighton or the Louisville/Stanford loser. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 10, 2024 13:19:59 GMT -5
In my opinion they won’t put two regional final sites just miles away from each other. Lincoln and Omaha are just too close to each other. I suspect the sites will be spread out across the USA. There is no rule against it, and if the NCAA wants regional sites to be spread out, then they should go back to using pre-determined regional siting. |
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 10, 2024 13:22:46 GMT -5
I just don’t see how losing to Wisconsin moves the needle for Creighton when Creighton hasn’t beaten a team that good and Penn St. has. Maybe the better question is Wisconsin vs Penn State, assuming Wisconsin beats Nebraska in Lincoln and Nebraska beats Penn State. I would put Wisconsin in over Penn State or Creighton or the Louisville/Stanford loser. Wisconsin could climb PSU and Creighton, but it’s harder to climb the ACC squads. Wisconsin needs Stanford and Louisville to lose before the last week of the season, which looks unlikely. That Louisville/Stanford last day of the season game is probably going to just flip or solidify 3/4/5. |
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 10, 2024 13:30:21 GMT -5
Realistic hypothetical. Wisconsin wins out and Nebraska beats PSU and wins out except Wisconsin. PSU only loses to Nebraska. Louisville loses to Pitt and Stanford, who both win out. Creighton wins out. Even losing to Wisconsin, Pitt and Nebraska are 1 and 2. Who, among Stanford, Louisville, Penn State, Wisconsin and Creighton get to host the #3 and #4 regionals? I hope if Creighton can run the table and not drop a game, they get the 4 seed. Two 5-set losses to RPI 1 & 2 on the road? Win everything else? That’s pretty impressive The closeness of losses on the road is not a factor in committee decisions. Their wins just aren’t there in relation to the rest of the top 8, especially with Kansas and Purdue being worse than expected this year. They lose common opponents against everyone. Their path to the top 4 involves Penn State losing to Purdue, Wisconsin losing to Nebraska, and either Stanford losing to Louisville or the committee not paying attention to a West Coast game on selection Sunday. Otherwise Creighton is being considered against three teams for that final spot who have multiple better wins and common opponents advantage. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 10, 2024 13:33:16 GMT -5
Interesting. A predicted WKU loss in the CUSA Tournament with UTEP getting the automatic bid. Lol didn't WKU already beat them twice on their home floor? What am I missing? WKU won twice at UTEP, but those were both very tightly contested matches. Where is the conference tournament hosted? (It's at UTEP). They could both get in (with one AQ/one at-large), or just one of them, and it could be either WKU or UTEP. |
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