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Post by aaronic on Dec 9, 2005 7:36:07 GMT -5
There will be no televised coverage AT ALL for the Regional Final. www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051209/SPORTS0302/512090376/1032/SPORTSNo TV if UH reaches regional volleyball final Advertiser Staff If the University of Hawai'i women's volleyball team beats Missouri today in the regional semifinal in Pennsylvania, tomorrow's championship match won't be televised in Hawai'i. The television rights to the championship match are owned by ESPN. The station will televise it on ESPNU, which is not carried locally by Oceanic Time Warner. "We did make an effort, but they did not grant us a simulcast on (local channel) OC 16," said Lianne Killion, programming manger at Oceanic Time Warner in Hawai'i. The regional is being played at Penn State University in State College, Pa. Today's UH match will be televised live on K5 at 11 a.m. If UH wins it will play the winner of the Penn State-Tennessee match 11 a.m. Saturday. "We tried hard, but that's the end of it," said Killion. "There's nothing we can do. I don't blame the public (for being upset) because I'd like to see it, too. We know how big the fan base is here." Killion said no delayed telecast is scheduled on ESPN or ESPN2.
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Post by sexy on Dec 9, 2005 8:06:26 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals
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Post by lilred on Dec 9, 2005 8:18:03 GMT -5
Yep. I think its gonna suck for a lot of fans. As I said before ESPN is really playing hardball this time around. When NU made the semi-finals in 2000 against Hawaii, NETV was able to simulcast the match live in Nebraska. Guessing that's not gonna happen this time around. Their thinking is that the fans will turn their wrath on the national cable outlets and force them to pick up ESPNU. Maybe this is why so many places have NOT picked up ESPNU, because of their hardball tactics. If I am not mistaken they tried this with their Disney Channel also at one time. (ABC, the parent owner of both)
Unfortunately Time Warner is not easily intimidated. They also are the cable station for Lincoln and much of Nebraska outside Omaha.
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Post by 808 on Dec 9, 2005 9:42:58 GMT -5
There will be no televised coverage AT ALL for the Regional Final. www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051209/SPORTS0302/512090376/1032/SPORTSNo TV if UH reaches regional volleyball final Advertiser Staff If the University of Hawai'i women's volleyball team beats Missouri today in the regional semifinal in Pennsylvania, tomorrow's championship match won't be televised in Hawai'i. The television rights to the championship match are owned by ESPN. The station will televise it on ESPNU, which is not carried locally by Oceanic Time Warner. "We did make an effort, but they did not grant us a simulcast on (local channel) OC 16," said Lianne Killion, programming manger at Oceanic Time Warner in Hawai'i. The regional is being played at Penn State University in State College, Pa. Today's UH match will be televised live on K5 at 11 a.m. If UH wins it will play the winner of the Penn State-Tennessee match 11 a.m. Saturday. "We tried hard, but that's the end of it," said Killion. "There's nothing we can do. I don't blame the public (for being upset) because I'd like to see it, too. We know how big the fan base is here." Killion said no delayed telecast is scheduled on ESPN or ESPN2. I assume we'd still be able to catch the game at a bar somewhere that has a satellite feed, though. Eastside Grill anyone?
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Post by Gorf on Dec 9, 2005 10:27:43 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals Unfortunately, poker IS very popular and has plenty of sponsors willing to pay for it being televised. Unlike volleyball where the NCAA pays for the majority of the volleyball coverage. There just aren't many big contributing sponsors for volleyball yet. The poker shows like the world series of pokers are cheap to produce compared to the volleyball matches 4 different locations using larger crews at each than poker uses at one site. Also, from the peple I knw and have heard discuss the poker shows they're willing (and actually like) to watch those poker shows several times. How many times do volleyball fans typically like to watch the same volleyball match more than 1 r 2 times? Until the volleyball comunity can show there is a much bigger demand for televising the sport and can find enough sponsors that are willing to step forward and pay for mainstrea commercials during the volleyball telecasts the coverage from sources liike ESPN isn't likely to change much.
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Post by 808 on Dec 9, 2005 10:30:06 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals Unfortunately, poker IS very popular and has plenty of sponsors willing to pay for it being televised. Unlike volleyball where the NCAA pays for the majority of the volleyball coverage. There just aren't many big contributing sponsors for volleyball yet. The poker shows like the world series of pokers are cheap to produce compared to the volleyball matches 4 different locations using larger crews at each than poker uses at one site. Also, from the peple I knw and have heard discuss the poker shows they're willing (and actually like) to watch those poker shows several times. How many times do volleyball fans typically like to watch the same volleyball match more than 1 r 2 times? Until the volleyball comunity can show there is a much bigger demand for televising the sport and can find enough sponsors that are willing to step forward and pay for mainstrea commercials during the volleyball telecasts the coverage from sources liike ESPN isn't likely to change much. Summary (for Wolfgang): money talks.
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Post by Gorf on Dec 9, 2005 10:34:02 GMT -5
I wonder if playing the entire NCAA volleyball tournament in Vegas would get a casino or two to pay for everything to have the hordes of volleyball fans invading the city.
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Post by 808 on Dec 9, 2005 10:47:52 GMT -5
I wonder if playing the entire NCAA volleyball tournament in Vegas would get a casino or two to pay for everything to have the hordes of volleyball fans invading the city. I don't think the "hordes" of volleyball fans is big enough for Vegas. Though the number of Hawaii people flying to Vegas might increase under the guise of supporting the team.
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Post by sexy on Dec 9, 2005 10:55:35 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals Unfortunately, poker IS very popular and has plenty of sponsors willing to pay for it being televised. Unlike volleyball where the NCAA pays for the majority of the volleyball coverage. There just aren't many big contributing sponsors for volleyball yet. The poker shows like the world series of pokers are cheap to produce compared to the volleyball matches 4 different locations using larger crews at each than poker uses at one site. Also, from the peple I knw and have heard discuss the poker shows they're willing (and actually like) to watch those poker shows several times. How many times do volleyball fans typically like to watch the same volleyball match more than 1 r 2 times? Until the volleyball comunity can show there is a much bigger demand for televising the sport and can find enough sponsors that are willing to step forward and pay for mainstrea commercials during the volleyball telecasts the coverage from sources liike ESPN isn't likely to change much. when it comes to a ncaa national championship title match - i am sure lots of volleyball fans would watch it more than one or two times -- i am sure there are some wanting to get a dvd or video tape of past national championship matches just to watch it again as well -- as for knowing people that like watching poker shows - how many of them would want to watch the 2005 poker tournament over and over and over again throughout the year the way espn and espn2 keeps airing it?? i would think they would either tape it at least by the 3rd showing or perhaps wanting to watch a different tournament -- it seems to me - the way they show one poker show in the amount that espn and espn2 shows - those stations are trying to pull more audience and fans to that -- and also even with the sponsers that sponsers that poker show - most of them seem to be the same sponsers of beach volleyball - which makes me feel - why dont those beach volleyball players help with trying to help promote more national tv coverage of indoor college volleyball when most of them came from that particular venue?? one way they could start introducing it slowly to the rest of the country via television air time would be on the show 'dig'
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Post by bigfan on Dec 9, 2005 12:08:43 GMT -5
If Hawai`i wins the FF matches will be televised. This regional is a real question mark to me; How good are the Wahine in reality and how great is Penn St. when all is said and done?
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Post by Aikea on Dec 9, 2005 12:52:29 GMT -5
If Hawai`i wins the FF matches will be televised. This regioan is a real question mark to me; How good are the Wahine in reality and how great is Penn St. when all is said and done? If the Wahine win today, we will see how good they really are. No, wait...thanks to ESPN we won't see . At least we will be able to hear it on KKEA .
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 9, 2005 13:19:24 GMT -5
I wonder what the ratings look like for volleyball on TV. I have NEVER seen volleyball ratings. That would be a very reliable indicator of whether people are actually watching the games.
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Dec 9, 2005 14:22:56 GMT -5
Not having TV for the regional finals in Hawai'i sucks, but I guess I don't understand the premise of the thread title. Based solely on the thread title, one would be led to believe that losing the S16 match would be preferable since, by extension, it would not suck, while winning would suck. Personally, if it was my team in question, I would much rather deal with winning and being in the E8 with no TV than losing and still not having TV. And to that end, I will say "Go Dawgs"
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Post by ugopher on Dec 9, 2005 14:55:26 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals They can also find the airtime to televise a high school basketball game.
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Post by beachman on Dec 9, 2005 14:56:16 GMT -5
yet - espn and espn2 will find time to broadcast the 2005 world poker championship tournament for the 110th time since the tournament had happen -- if they are showing it because it was in high demand by their faithful viewers and big fans of poker - they could just put it on video tape and dvd and make some profit from it -- that would take less than a week to do -- when they air something like that 2005 poker championship as many times as they have done and will continue to do until the next tournament - which you can bet on thats what they will do - it becomes just as bad as info-mericals SO WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT THE MARKETING JOB FOR WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL THAT IS DONE BY THE NCAA AND AVCA? ?
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