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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 29, 2006 20:29:25 GMT -5
I heard a weird story. True story per my source.
A college team (name withheld) holds a brief prayer session prior to and at the end of practice. These are not simple 15-second affairs; rather, these are on the order of 1-2 minute full-blown rejoicings to God Almighty with Hallelujahs and Amens and things of this nature before practice and more lengthy ones (15-minutes or so) after practice.
(I've seen football teams huddle and praise the Lord before a game, but it's usually very short. And I think I once saw a basketball team hold a prayer session essentially right after a game in the middle of the court. But again, not too lengthy.)
Is this common?
What if you don't believe in God? Or what if you worship a different god?
It's weird to me. And I went to a Catholic School up until 9th grade.
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Post by cdizzle on Aug 29, 2006 20:41:28 GMT -5
Public or Private school?
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Post by abcd098 on Aug 29, 2006 20:49:54 GMT -5
I could only imagine what this thread was going to be about after reading the thread name and then seeing who wrote it. I actually was thinking about this today, as I watched the show Two A Days on MTV about a high school football team, and they had a team chaplain. Not sure if it was a public or private school though. They were from the Bible Belt though, I believe.
It is one of those things like getting Christmas vacation off from school, even though a large number of people don't celebrate Christmas, they know they could never get these vacations changed. It is unfortunate to think how much of an uproar there would be if they changed winter vacations for school to include Ramadan, for example. People are okay with diversity, as long as it does not mean that the majority has to change any of their behaviors or traditions.
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Post by cinnamonopus on Aug 29, 2006 21:13:53 GMT -5
I think as a player it would freak me the hell out. I know there are teams out there who do prayer sessions, but I've never been involved with one. I played for a Catholic school in HS; we didn't pray, but the nuns asked us to please not cuss on camera during televised matches.
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Post by BearClause on Aug 29, 2006 21:54:44 GMT -5
I think as a player it would freak me the hell out. I know there are teams out there who do prayer sessions, but I've never been involved with one. I played for a Catholic school in HS; we didn't pray, but the nuns asked us to please not cuss on camera during televised matches. Back in 2004 I saw several HS playoff matches. One was between two Catholic schools (Saint Mary's College High School vs Holy Names High School), and a brother said a prayer for crowd before the match started. He specifically made note that the opponent was also Catholic before starting. When I saw a public school play at two Catholic opponents, I don't recall any prayer said before they played. They might have slipped it in while I wasn't watching, but I had the distinct impression that they weren't going to publicly pray with a public school as an opponent. |
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Post by cougarize on Aug 30, 2006 1:11:27 GMT -5
My question is ... with all the rejoicings is the team winning? In other words, is it working?
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 30, 2006 12:48:41 GMT -5
I was just at an NAIA match last night at a Baptist institution. The prayer itself was pretty short but the student who said the prayer tried to get into the whole fire and brimstone routine. I couldn't believe it. But, since I lived in the south, i.e. southern Baptist country, I was used to having my preferences trampled on.
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Post by cougvb on Aug 30, 2006 13:43:48 GMT -5
BYU used to say before/after practice prayers. Don't know if that has continued with Jason. No hellfire and brimstone or hallelulas involved. I can picture a black Southern Baptist University getting into it!
BYU also says a public prayer before their home matches over the microphone. All home games-football, etc. Again-probably a 30-45 seconds at the most. When they played Notre Dame a couple of years ago, I thought it would be funny if they said, "Please let your favorite church win this match," but the guy praying didn't. I don't remember a visiting team being anything but respectful during these prayers-no one seems to mind. They ask someone different every match to pray-lots of times it is a parent or grandparent of one of the players.
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Post by lunaticsequalswin on Aug 30, 2006 13:58:01 GMT -5
My question is ... with all the rejoicings is the team winning? In other words, is it working? When my high school soccer team would do a prayer before the game, the person leading would not pray so much as to win...but rather to have fun and keep everybody safe. |
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Post by maninyellowhat on Aug 30, 2006 14:49:02 GMT -5
I know of a college team that prayed before matches but it was not mandatory. Players could participate if they chose to do so. It was led by a player not the coaches.
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Post by bigfan on Aug 30, 2006 15:06:31 GMT -5
NAIA schools such as Concordia, Biola and Azusa Pacific have public prayers before the home matches....then the kids swear like crazy once the games begin
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Post by beachman on Aug 30, 2006 15:39:00 GMT -5
I think that their prayers might have gone like this: Heavenly Father, please find me a man, and please let me get pregnant, over and over and over again!  BYU used to say before/after practice prayers. Don't know if that has continued with Jason. No hellfire and brimstone or hallelulas involved. I can picture a black Southern Baptist University getting into it! BYU also says a public prayer before their home matches over the microphone. All home games-football, etc. Again-probably a 30-45 seconds at the most. When they played Notre Dame a couple of years ago, I thought it would be funny if they said, "Please let your favorite church win this match," but the guy praying didn't. I don't remember a visiting team being anything but respectful during these prayers-no one seems to mind. They ask someone different every match to pray-lots of times it is a parent or grandparent of one of the players. |
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Post by ESTRELLA on Aug 30, 2006 15:47:28 GMT -5
I think that their prayers might have gone like this: Heavenly Father, please find me a man, and please let me get pregnant, over and over and over again! BYU used to say before/after practice prayers. Don't know if that has continued with Jason. No hellfire and brimstone or hallelulas involved. I can picture a black Southern Baptist University getting into it! BYU also says a public prayer before their home matches over the microphone. All home games-football, etc. Again-probably a 30-45 seconds at the most. When they played Notre Dame a couple of years ago, I thought it would be funny if they said, "Please let your favorite church win this match," but the guy praying didn't. I don't remember a visiting team being anything but respectful during these prayers-no one seems to mind. They ask someone different every match to pray-lots of times it is a parent or grandparent of one of the players. Beachman, to tell you the truth.....that is a very low class type of post. Sorry, but have to call you to the carpet. If you don't respect prayer that is your problem. If you don't respect what they believe in, I personally have no respect for you!!!!! ESTRELLA  |
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Post by Keystonekid on Aug 30, 2006 15:51:10 GMT -5
Jesus it's just volleyball for Christs Sake. Although I will admit that I am praying for vbsamurai!
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Post by bigfan on Aug 30, 2006 18:51:13 GMT -5
I think that their prayers might have gone like this: Heavenly Father, please find me a man, and please let me get pregnant, over and over and over again! You referring to USC's football player Matt Leinart and USC womens basketball player Brynn Cameron? |
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