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Post by Keystonekid on Sept 4, 2006 10:11:29 GMT -5
Napolean complex.
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Post by PierreAmi on Sept 4, 2006 11:32:00 GMT -5
Hehe, I have two decades worth of rantings by Gimillaro. He is known for this kind of behavior on the sidelines. I tend to find it real funny though, because he only acts this way when your team is beating his. But about teaching his kids .. well, that comment has little weight. He has trained some fantastic raw athletes into some of the USA's best volleyball players .... and this comes from a Wahine fan. So if you have had the opportunity to coach raw talent into the USA's best talent then that excuses any kind of behaviour you may exhibit??? That makes acting like an ass OK?? I would like to think there are a few coaches left iwho can also teach their players how to win and LOOSE gracefully. Maybe Beachman has some statistics: I'd be interested in seeing how often his teams have rallied back to win a game after these tirades, versus how often they've gone on to lose. I've got to believe that when Gimmilaro starts to behave like that on the sidelines, it takes the team right out of their mental focus. It must be a distraction for them- right at the time that they need to get focussed and play out of it. Psychologically they must know that when he behaves like this, its his way of demonstrating that he's lost confidence in their ability to control the game, and he's trying to do it himself.
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Post by StuffU on Sept 4, 2006 12:14:04 GMT -5
Hehe, I have two decades worth of rantings by Gimillaro. He is known for this kind of behavior on the sidelines. I tend to find it real funny though, because he only acts this way when your team is beating his. But about teaching his kids .. well, that comment has little weight. He has trained some fantastic raw athletes into some of the USA's best volleyball players .... and this comes from a Wahine fan. So if you have had the opportunity to coach raw talent into the USA's best talent then that excuses any kind of behaviour you may exhibit??? That makes acting like an ass OK?? I would like to think there are a few coaches left iwho can also teach their players how to win and LOOSE gracefully. Take a chill pill and read my post again. I didn't say his ability to train athletes excuses his behavior. The original poster said that if he spent less time ranting and more time training his athletes they would do better. The comments about his ranting is more than supported by my post. But the comment about training his athletes was unsupported ~ for the reason given in my post. Relax. Take his rantings on the sidelines as a sign that your team is pounding him into submission. Cuz that is the only time he's on the sidelines ranting. Instead of getting riled up, like you obviously did, take a second and laugh at his ridiculous behavior. I do.
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 4, 2006 13:01:07 GMT -5
During Sunday's match, my wife commented that Brian G. seemed to be using lots of sarcasm in his attempts to motivate his players. To me it didn't seem to be a very constructive method and while it might work with some players, I think that it would fall flat with the great majority.
I agree with StuffU's point that Gimillaro has had noteworthy success in developing some players. But, as previously discussed on this board, he also has a high number of players transfer out after 1 or 2 years in the program. Transfers quite often reflect more on the athlete than the coach or program. But, in this case, I think his volatile personality may be the biggest factor involved.
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 4, 2006 13:09:41 GMT -5
This is the first time that I have seen Alexis Crimes. Maybe I'm missing something, but she is highly overrated. The best thing that she does is jump. I couldn't believe that she was on the all-tournament team for this tournament. She basically did nothing. Her attacking is sub-standard and her blocking is average. What a disappointment. I don't know that I would be so hard on Crimes based on seeing her play this one match against Nebraska. Her hitting stats were not great (5-2-18 for .167), but this may reflect things that Nebraska was doing to somewhat take her out of the game. Based on my slightly unfocused observations from the Friday and Saturday matches, I would say that she is a much better player than she showed on Sunday. I can see where she is worthy of the honors that she has earned the past two seasons.
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Post by StuffU on Sept 4, 2006 13:11:55 GMT -5
During Sunday's match, my wife commented that Brian G. seemed to be using lots of sarcasm in his attempts to motivate his players. To me it didn't seem to be a very constructive method and while it might work with some players, I think that it would fall flat with the great majority. I agree with StuffU's point that Gimillaro has had noteworthy success in developing some players. But, as previously discussed on this board, he also has a high number of players transfer out after 1 or 2 years in the program. Transfers quite often reflect more on the athlete than the coach or program. But, in this case, I think his volatile personality may be the biggest factor involved. I agree. He has had a lot of transfers ~ but most of his transfers have been in the last few years. I think that is more a reflection of the type of players that the Jrs are producing. They require a different style of coaching than what Gimmillaro provides. He is a tough as nails coach on his players and pushes them in that regard. I'm not so sure that the players of today respond all that well to his "old school" coaching style. The same could be said for Kathy Gregory. It's kind of like a "Hell's Kitchen" school of thought.
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Post by holidayhusker on Sept 4, 2006 13:20:52 GMT -5
So if you have had the opportunity to coach raw talent into the USA's best talent then that excuses any kind of behaviour you may exhibit??? That makes acting like an ass OK?? I would like to think there are a few coaches left iwho can also teach their players how to win and LOOSE gracefully. Take a chill pill and read my post again. I didn't say his ability to train athletes excuses his behavior. The original poster said that if he spent less time ranting and more time training his athletes they would do better. The comments about his ranting is more than supported by my post. But the comment about training his athletes was unsupported ~ for the reason given in my post. Relax. Take his rantings on the sidelines as a sign that your team is pounding him into submission. Cuz that is the only time he's on the sidelines ranting. Instead of getting riled up, like you obviously did, take a second and laugh at his ridiculous behavior. I do. Thank you for the chastising mother but I stand behind my opinion. Isn't good sportsmanship worth arguing for??
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Post by StuffU on Sept 4, 2006 13:26:20 GMT -5
Take a chill pill and read my post again. I didn't say his ability to train athletes excuses his behavior. The original poster said that if he spent less time ranting and more time training his athletes they would do better. The comments about his ranting is more than supported by my post. But the comment about training his athletes was unsupported ~ for the reason given in my post. Relax. Take his rantings on the sidelines as a sign that your team is pounding him into submission. Cuz that is the only time he's on the sidelines ranting. Instead of getting riled up, like you obviously did, take a second and laugh at his ridiculous behavior. I do. Thank you for the chastising mother but I stand behind my opinion. Isn't good sportsmanship worth arguing for?? As a chastising mother, it's time to take you over my knee. Every coach has their weakness. Cook displayed very poor sportsmanship and chastised one of his players after the loss to USC in the regional ~ virtually blaming the loss on his libero, and in the media no less! Be careful where you throw stones ... or did you forget that display of poor sportsmanship and lackluster coaching motivation displayed by Cook?
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Post by Keystonekid on Sept 4, 2006 13:51:07 GMT -5
Not sure chastising a player is an issue of sportsmanship. May not be fair or decent, but not really an issue of sportsmanship. I for one, would not place blame on a specific player especially in the media, it was bad form on Cooks part. That issue was also not consistant with Cook's behaviour. But I think the sportsmanship refers to something else. Also not sure how it is relevant to Gimiallaro's behavior which has been consistantly pitiful. Oh well.
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Post by StuffU on Sept 4, 2006 14:00:28 GMT -5
Not sure chastising a player is an issue of sportsmanship. May not be fair or decent, but not really an issue of sportsmanship. I for one, would not place blame on a specific player especially in the media, it was bad form on Cooks part. That issue was also not consistant with Cook's behaviour. But I think the sportsmanship refers to something else. Also not sure how it is relevant to Gimiallaro's behavior which has been consistantly pitiful. Oh well. The entire incident was poor sportsmanship. He didn't give credit to USC's performance, instead chose to blame the loss on ONE player. A coach that is setting an example for his team would've taken the loss as a team loss or taken it as HIS loss. I don't know how you can say it wasn't a display of poor sportsmanship.
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Post by Keystonekid on Sept 4, 2006 14:17:21 GMT -5
Stuff U, slow down and re-read. I agree with you on what Cook did, just think it is entirely different than Gimillaro's, and also how that was relevant to people discussing Gimmilaro's behaviour. not classifying it as a sportsmanship issue is just symantics. I don't re-call if he failed to congratulate USC on their performance, if he did not, I would call that bad sportsmanship. I will see if the article is still around, although again not really relevant. Holiday Husker may very well agree with us on Cook's post game vs USC, he was just making an observation that pretty much anyone who has ever watched LBSU play. Heck, Gimmilaro is also a sore winner.
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Post by beachvball on Sept 5, 2006 0:36:34 GMT -5
I was there all weekend and that line judge was the worst. As a matter of fact, he was taping his work all weekend and I can tell you he was bad. He will see how bad he was. Brian works the officials every game and if you call it poor sportsmanship, that's your problem. Any good coach works on the officials. While we talk about sportsmanship and being good host, Lets talk about the parents of the players. For the most part I was impressed with the fans and how friendly they were. But, we had to sit in section 8 during our first match and we had Nebraska parents pushing our parents out of there seats. They gave us dirty looks, stood in front of us during the game and made us all uncomfortable. Who every told us to sit in those seats, never told the parents. They were simple rude.
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Post by holidayhusker on Sept 5, 2006 0:51:44 GMT -5
Not sure chastising a player is an issue of sportsmanship. May not be fair or decent, but not really an issue of sportsmanship. I for one, would not place blame on a specific player especially in the media, it was bad form on Cooks part. That issue was also not consistant with Cook's behaviour. But I think the sportsmanship refers to something else. Also not sure how it is relevant to Gimiallaro's behavior which has been consistantly pitiful. Oh well. The entire incident was poor sportsmanship. He didn't give credit to USC's performance, instead chose to blame the loss on ONE player. A coach that is setting an example for his team would've taken the loss as a team loss or taken it as HIS loss. I don't know how you can say it wasn't a display of poor sportsmanship. Wait a minute. This is hilarious...Cook has also coached some of the best!!Doesn't that excuse his behaviour too?? Make up your mind. Which is it?
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Post by itsallaboutme on Sept 5, 2006 6:20:34 GMT -5
I sit in Section 8 and there is nobody that is rude there. Maybe they got upset that you were sitting in their seats. I would be rude too if you wouldn't get out of my seats. If by chance you did have ticket to sit there and you acted like an ass then you deserve to be giving the cold shoulder. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes.
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Post by Keystonekid on Sept 5, 2006 10:17:09 GMT -5
"The match was much closer than the scores indicated," said 49er Head Coach Brian Gimmillaro. "There were crucial calls made in games two and three that had they gone our way would have made a big difference
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