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Post by brybry on Sept 11, 2006 13:55:03 GMT -5
Anyhow, I think most of us agree that the officiating was consistent. I think the non-calls on Hodge's overhand passes were correct from what I saw.
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Post by gollum on Sept 11, 2006 14:07:49 GMT -5
Wrist power alone is insufficient to achieve decent set location for 99.44% of setters. The entire body works together to cushion the incoming ball and slingshot it back out at the desired speed/trajectory. If you're setting from your chest, the only way to get the desired speed/trajectory is to straighten the elbows through a much longer range of motion than with an overhead set. Even if you are very fast, the interval of this unfolding motion is nearly always well within the definition of a lift. i always knew that i was in the top 0.56% of setters in regards to sufficient wrist power... sweet.. thanks for the "scientific" proof though ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by OverAndUnder on Sept 11, 2006 14:35:12 GMT -5
i always knew that i was in the top 0.56% of setters in regards to sufficient wrist power... sweet.. thanks for the "scientific" proof though ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) To save space, I only included the statistics relevant to the discussion at hand. To be more thorough, of the remaining .56%, 99.44% of these are capable of generating only mild wrist power sufficient to propel the ball just barely above the net without being called for a lift.
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Post by pogoball on Sept 11, 2006 19:37:29 GMT -5
Ok, there are probably around 200,000 junior and senior high school setters in the nation (pretty much an barely educated guess). Since Ms Glass is known for her strength and was rated in the top couple setters of last year's senior class, she is better than all of those young ladies, so that puts her in the top .0005% of that group. So, scientifically speaking, Alisha can make that set ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Gelatinous Mass on Sept 11, 2006 20:35:51 GMT -5
Gollum, I appreciate the post and I did mispeak.mistype? Doubles are allowed on first ball, if they weren't there would be no mens game, lifts are not..what Hodge was doing was somewhere in between and for lack of a better description was just ugly. Having watched a lot of high caliber club VB in the US for the last 12 years the lack of calls really seems like a step backwards when these players should be held to a higher standard as their talent level increases.
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Post by gollum on Sept 12, 2006 8:43:46 GMT -5
Ok, there are probably around 200,000 junior and senior high school setters in the nation (pretty much an barely educated guess). Since Ms Glass is known for her strength and was rated in the top couple setters of last year's senior class, she is better than all of those young ladies, so that puts her in the top .0005% of that group. So, scientifically speaking, Alisha can make that set ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Scientifically speaking you are correct..but man that is a lot of wrist power ;D
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Post by brybry on Sept 12, 2006 12:40:13 GMT -5
Gollum, I appreciate the post and I did mispeak.mistype? Doubles are allowed on first ball, if they weren't there would be no mens game, lifts are not..what Hodge was doing was somewhere in between and for lack of a better description was just ugly. Having watched a lot of high caliber club VB in the US for the last 12 years the lack of calls really seems like a step backwards when these players should be held to a higher standard as their talent level increases. You know, if the Texas/PSU match was international, I kinda think they might have called Hodge on one or two of those serve receives. And in change they wouldn't have called Glass on all but one double contact.
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