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Post by sponge13 on Mar 21, 2004 20:06:02 GMT -5
IPFW (8-1)-at BSU, vs. MC, at Fin, at LC, at Clarke, at OSU, at MC Ball St. (7-2)-vs. IPFW, vs. MC, vs. Fin, at Lewis, at QU, at OSU, at Fin Lewis (7-3)-vs. Clarke, vs. QU, vs. BSU, at OSU, vs. LC, at MC Ohio St. (7-3)-vs. Find, at MC, at Fin, vs. Lewis, vs. IPFW, vs. BSU, vs. QU Loyola (8-4)-vs. IPFW, vs. QC, vs. Clarke, at Lewis Mercyhurst (5-6)-at IPFW, at BSU, vs. OSU, vs. Lewis, vs. IPFW Findlay (3-8) - at OSU (non-conf), vs. IPFW, at BSU, vs. OSU, vs. QU, vs. BSU Quincy (2-8)-vs. Clarke, at Lewis, at LC, vs. BSU, at Fin, at OSU Clarke (0-12)-at Lewis, at QU, vs. IPFW, at LC
School (MIVA left), Home/Away IPFW (7), 1 H/6 A Ball State (7), 3 H/4 A Lewis (6), 4 H/2 A Ohio State (6), 4 H/2 A Loyola (4), 3 H/1 A Mercyhurst (5), 3 H/2 A Findlay (5), 4 H/1 A Quincy (6), 2 H/4 A Clarke (4), 1 H/3 A
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Post by Gorf on Mar 21, 2004 21:00:56 GMT -5
Something is at least slightly wrong with your list.
You have IPFW at Findlay in their 3rd remaining match, however, there is no IPFW in Findlay's list of remaining matches.
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Post by VBJunkie on Mar 21, 2004 23:14:36 GMT -5
Barreto, Fabi 4| 25 6 42 .452| 0| 1 2| 0| 7| 0 5 2| 0| 28.5
that is a hell of a stat line.... He lit up quincy...
I think he should be considered for MIVA player of the year, depending on how Lewis finishes up...
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Mar 21, 2004 23:47:13 GMT -5
Barreto, Fabi 4| 25 6 42 .452| 0| 1 2| 0| 7| 0 5 2| 0| 28.5 that is a hell of a stat line.... He lit up quincy... I think he should be considered for MIVA player of the year, depending on how Lewis finishes up... Wow, this sounds like a familiar thread--Junkie careful what you say(unless you were joking)-- I said the same thing and got verbally abused by several people. I agree though, he should be considered. His season and team are on their way up and the other 2 stellar players have teams that are slumping somewhat. He still needs to finish strong to overtake Matt from IPFW, which will be difficult. Even though Matt's team is losing he is putting up good numbers that will probably make him an All-American consideration as well. I'm sure my comments will spark another debate but I just wanted to say I agree with you.
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Post by VBJunkie on Mar 22, 2004 1:59:59 GMT -5
I thought the other thread was to be Nation POY, not MIVA... I do think that Fabi, Matt, and Keith should be considered...
Of course some of us think that Sidka (spelling?) should be considered too... for president I mean (clear joke right?)
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Post by Beachy on Mar 22, 2004 2:48:16 GMT -5
"Of course some of us think that Sidka (spelling?) should be considered too... for president I mean (clear joke right?) ".............Yes, Big Red is getting better about getting all the jokes ;D sorry, just being Beachy
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Post by diggger33 on Mar 22, 2004 9:55:06 GMT -5
Matty is MIVA player of the year... Hands down... Fabi is a good player but no way has had the year Matty has. You are just showing your bias. If you are talking long term who is the better player, that's a different story but POY is player of the YEAR...... Barreto, Fabi 4| 25 6 42 .452| 0| 1 2| 0| 7| 0 5 2| 0| 28.5 that is a hell of a stat line.... He lit up quincy... I think he should be considered for MIVA player of the year, depending on how Lewis finishes up...
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Post by chilipalmer on Mar 22, 2004 11:10:21 GMT -5
Sorry, but I think Schunzel is the best player in the MIVA this year, with virtually NO support from the rest of his team.
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Post by VBJunkie on Mar 22, 2004 13:59:05 GMT -5
Im not bias, I actually don't even like Lewis, I just think that those 3 are the top players in the MIVA,
Keith, Matt and Fabi... its up for the coaches to decide... And if IP doesn't make it to the finals, I can really see him not gettin recognized
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Post by diggger33 on Mar 22, 2004 14:35:11 GMT -5
only way keith can win it is if BSU overachieves which I don't see happening right now...Matty doesn't have very much help either. Jary is more help than Matty has... Everyone can make cases on why their guy is POY but you almost have to have the numbers to back up you claim which I think Matty has..... this is a POY NOT MVP. Sorry, but I think Schunzel is the best player in the MIVA this year, with virtually NO support from the rest of his team.
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Post by VBbeast on Mar 22, 2004 15:18:21 GMT -5
Matt and Keith have the inside track on the POY for the MIVA. Fabi isnt even on the same lap at the moment.
How their team finishes in the regular season is a factor, but tournament placement is irrelavent since the voting is done before the semis are even played.
As for the "they are all alone argument" maybe its time to give that a rest. Keith has to have someone kill his sets, and Matt has to have someone set him. I'm not arguing that they arent the talent on their respective teams but they have help doing what they do that is just the nature of the sport.
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Post by diggger33 on Mar 22, 2004 15:34:25 GMT -5
You must not see the POS sets Matty gets..... Matt and Keith have the inside track on the POY for the MIVA. Fabi isnt even on the same lap at the moment. How their team finishes in the regular season is a factor, but tournament placement is irrelavent since the voting is done before the semis are even played. As for the "they are all alone argument" maybe its time to give that a rest. Keith has to have someone kill his sets, and Matt has to have someone set him. I'm not arguing that they arent the talent on their respective teams but they have help doing what they do that is just the nature of the sport.
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Post by midwestfan on Mar 22, 2004 15:55:32 GMT -5
Exactly what is the criteria that is used for the decision? Is it straight stats or are other factors calculated into the scenerio?
If it is straight stats, seems like a slam dunk (sorry, been watching too much NCAA basketball) to be Matt. He is listed in so many stat catagories (not only kills/game and points but also blocks, digs and even ace's). Question though: didn't Ptak get POY last year and would the coaches be hesitant to give it to someone from IPFW because of that?
I am sure all three of the guys mentioned will be considered, along with others. There is still a lot of year left 6/7 games on avg. and I guess anything can happen.
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Post by diggger33 on Mar 22, 2004 16:08:31 GMT -5
I certainly hope that doesn't factor into the decision because that woudn't be fair to Matty. Of course look at the past POY in the MIVA. 1998- Victor Rivera (Lewis) 1999- Victor Rivera (Lewis) 2000- Angel Aja (OSU) 2001- Chris Fash (OSU) 2002- Pieter Olree (OSU) so I wouldn't think that since IPFW won it last year, it would make a difference....but you never know. You know... looking back... it's amazing Hector Soto did not get a POY in his career... Exactly what is the criteria that is used for the decision? Is it straight stats or are other factors calculated into the scenerio? If it is straight stats, seems like a slam dunk (sorry, been watching too much NCAA basketball) to be Matt. He is listed in so many stat catagories (not only kills/game and points but also blocks, digs and even ace's). Question though: didn't Ptak get POY last year and would the coaches be hesitant to give it to someone from IPFW because of that? I am sure all three of the guys mentioned will be considered, along with others. There is still a lot of year left 6/7 games on avg. and I guess anything can happen.
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Post by chilipalmer on Mar 22, 2004 17:37:40 GMT -5
Soto was awesome, but I think Rivera stole too much of the spotlight.
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