Russ Rose's 2-setter system???? What happened??!?!

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Didn't Salyer play against Minnesota? Don't tell me GameBleeper was wrong!

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2 attacks, 2 errors, per boxscore. Is she hurt again?

[Pirate VB Fan]

ruffda said:

Acronyms Are For Doofs.

When I worked at IBM in the early 80's we had a manual entitled "Meanings of TLAs". If you looked up "TLA" you found out it meant "Three Letter Acronym".

[Wolfgang]

I still say "Kentucky Fried Chicken," not "KFC."

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huskyvbfan said:

ruffda said:

Acronyms Are For Doofs.

When I worked at IBM in the early 80's we had a manual entitled "Meanings of TLAs". If you looked up "TLA" you found out it meant "Three Letter Acronym".

International Business Machines, you mean.

[VolleyTX]

I'm totally against a 6-2 system where one or both of the setters is only in the game for 3 rotations. Sure, USC got away with this system a few years ago. However, I think they were just that much better than everyone else. Plus, they had two rather small setters.... which is not true at PSU. They probably would have won running a 5-1 as well.

IMHO, the setter needs to stay in the rhythm of the match. How can they do this when they are coming in and out every three rotations. I think the 6-2 system was Nebraska's undoing last season.

Cuba's 6-2 system works a little better... with the setters staying in the front row and hitting. They are just about the ONLY international/professional team I've seen run the 6-2 system. Most international/professional teams have a heck of a lot more depth than most NCAA teams, yet they realize the importance of having continuity at the setting position. Although international rules would only allow this type of situation subbing occur once a set.... you still don't see it imployed that often.

[Wolfgang]

IMHO...oy vei...

[romeo]

I totally agree about rhythm, especially for the setter. There are cases where a 6-2 would be better, though. If a setter in a 5-1 system goes nuts on attacking, and the team's hitting percentage is way low - well that's not good rhythm. But if there is a solid, quick, athletic setter that doesn't do that, the 5-1 is the way to go. Look at Notre Dame - a much diminished team this year. Is it partly because they went to a 6-2, or is it because they lost their big gun? I say you don't change out a winning setter until the team starts to lose.
But if they are losing, you better try something different, like using a 6-2.

volleytx said:

IMHO, the setter needs to stay in the rhythm of the match.
Cuba's 6-2 system works a little better... with the setters staying in the front row and hitting.

[Mr. Wednesday]

idahoboy said:

Quite funny, if you look up IMHO online, there is one definition that fits laughably as a follow up:

"In my humble opinion. Cynical geeks say there is no such thing as a humble opinion!"

I'm not cynical enough to say that there are no humble opinions, but I am honest enough to say that my opinions are never humble.

[Mr. Wednesday]

romeo said:

I totally agree about rhythm, especially for the setter. There are cases where a 6-2 would be better, though. If a setter in a 5-1 system goes nuts on attacking, and the team's hitting percentage is way low - well that's not good rhythm. But if there is a solid, quick, athletic setter that doesn't do that, the 5-1 is the way to go. Look at Notre Dame - a much diminished team this year. Is it partly because they went to a 6-2, or is it because they lost their big gun? I say you don't change out a winning setter until the team starts to lose.
But if they are losing, you better try something different, like using a 6-2.

Notre Dame's main problem IMO is that the froshes haven't (yet, at least) replaced the seniors. It's possible that the 6-2 is hurting the offense, but it's not blindingly obvious enough that I've noticed it. I'd have to watch with p&p, I think, and take notes about how the attack performs with Nicholas vs. Tarutis. My offhand impression is that they've given up runs with both setters, the attack options aren't as reliable (more on the OHs and MBs than the S?), and the defense can be suspect (dunno if the 6-2 helps or hurts there).

Edit: Er, that's irrespective of issues involving "getting in a rhythm", which is something that I don't think I can really quantify. Anyway... Tarutis is (obviously) adequate in a 5-1, but I'm not sure Nicholas is big enough to play that way.

[bigtenfred]

According to the digital collegian Sayler is back I guess that means price will be playing back row for her.

[learning]

Just reading this thread for the first time. I am shocked by a couple of things:

1. Parents influence college coach's play time decisions? What? Where? Who? You have got to be kidding me. Please say it is not true. OK, I'd rather hear the truth. Where and who.

2. Setters can't come out because of rhythm issues? What about the other positions? I like to compare volleyball to football, because of the offense/defense situations, which is so clear in football. If the setter = quarterback, it seems like a new setter coming in would be able to figure out how and where to attack. Offense would be fresh, aggressive, not predictable. Not to mention fresh legs, etc.

[Go Iowa]

Ok, but how often do you see the QB come out of a football game unless they're struggling or winning by a comfortable margin?

[Go Iowa]

bigtenfred said:

According to the digital collegian Sayler is back I guess that means price will be playing back row for her.

Sayler was back last weekend and Price played over her. Sayler came in for a couple of rotations, but Price has been pretty good over there. I think they'd be strongest with Price at L, but I'll trust Russell with his decisions. ;D

[Keystonekid]

It's pretty obvious that Russ has absolutely no idea what he is doing.