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Post by Vball818 on Nov 27, 2002 19:11:56 GMT -5
If I was younger and taller I certainly would play for UCSB. It's a great campus, good academics and the coach(Coach Preston) is a good volleyball coach. Basically it all boils down to that "feeling" the recruit gets when he's visiting the campus, talking with the players, watching team practices and how comfortable he is with the coach. how come noboby has said anything about ucsb, its santa barbara for god sakes. it blows all other cities out of the water. the only thing is nobody wants to play there. so i guess u cant have the best of both worlds. |
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Post by VBfanatic on Apr 16, 2003 13:31:37 GMT -5
Don't laugh, but, as far as volleyball schools go, IPFW really is up there. Academically, get a Big 10 degree from Indiana or Purdue, depending on the major. Volleyballwise, it is the school's top sport. Great crowds for the good matches(ask Long Beach, UCLA, Lewis, PSU, etc), great community support, and they know their volleyball. Great media coverage. Coaching staff gets along with the players very well. University president is pro-volleyball, big-time. Only drawback is campus atmosphere, but, other than that, great place to play vb. You're right about IPFW. Indiana and Purdue are great schools academically. Men's Vball is the premier sport at IPFW and the kids who are playing there are always under the spotlight. They have a great coach, Arnie Ball, great alumni like Lloy Ball, Chris Gisslen, Hector Soto and now Jeff Ptak. Hector Soto is playing in Italy A2 right now. His team is 1st in A2 and is heading to A1 this year!!! It is the place to go both academically and volleyballwise. |
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Post by sweetieVBfan on Apr 16, 2003 19:18:31 GMT -5
okay, my mom's a professor at hawaii. please don't bash it like that.
but honestly, you have to look at specific programs. hawaii has the BEST oceanography department. the law school is good and the med school is getting up there too. you could take sh*t courses at any of those schools, and not study, concentrate on volleyball and still make the required GPA. it's what you make of it.
come on. you can't say that about a school or schools.
the UC schools, stanford and usc have the best academic reputations.
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Post by D1VBFan on Apr 16, 2003 22:11:30 GMT -5
Even if UCSD does move to D-1, it won't make much difference since they won't award athletic scholarships. Isn't it true that they don't award scholarships because they aren't D1? |
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Post by Ne on Apr 17, 2003 1:26:29 GMT -5
Best oceanography can be found at Woodshole (MA) and Scripps (CA). Hawaii gives them a run for the money!
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Post by aweezy on Apr 17, 2003 2:07:47 GMT -5
Most appeal
1. UCSB- great location, good academics, hot chicks, nice college life, good enough vball
2. UCLA - Its in the middle of LA, weather, academics
the rest all have too many draw backs
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Post by Surfin D Beach on Apr 17, 2003 4:27:18 GMT -5
Basically, everyone has their own preferences... As for that offensive comment to Hawaii and LBSU, well that's just plain ignorance flat out... We've had plenty of discussions about this stuff in the past, and this thread was obviously started by a troll... Many people are blinded by biased publication rankings, when in fact in terms of education, you just might be getting the SAME level at several different schools... FOR EXAMPLE: I am a sophmore at THE BEACH... My Mass Communications class is taught by a professor that ALSO TEACHES GRAD SCHOOL at USC... Keep in mind that he teaches an INTRO course at LBSU, and has stated to us time and time again that he likes teaching at the BEACH much better... His name is Dr. Habte (foreign born) by the way, if any of you Trojans are in Grad School and studying Journalism/Mass Communications... In my Philosophy class (another intro course), my professor also teaches/researches/lectures at UCLA... That speaks for itself... PERIOD... We have some of the SAME FRIGGIN PROFESSORS... Not to mention many top ranked programs in their INDIVIDUAL DISCIPLINES (which is far more important than overall biased ratings when it comes to public schools - private schools are a different story)... AND one of the highest numbers of HIGH SCHOOL VALEDICTORIANS in California studying on this campus (350+) in our President Scholars program (former women's setter Kerri Nishimoto, and current bench Libero Taylor Peyton are both President Scholars)... About 200-400 valedictorians from up and down the state of California apply, only about 40 get in each year... Communications #1 in the state, #8 in the nation, the DESIGN program is in the Top 10 Nationally (Forensics/Speech and Debate Team is ranked #1 in the state, #5 in the nation under the Ivy Leagues), one of the top if not THE top public art school nationally, A top 20 Physics Graduate Program, Highly Regarded Psychology (one of the TOP schools whose undergraduates in Psychology go on to get their doctorates), Highly regarded Political Science, a very highly regarded Aeronautical Engineering Department (One of the top privately funded public engineering programs in the state - supported HEAVILY by nearby Boeing and Lockheed who also hire most of the engineering grads from the BEACH), blah blah blah you get the picture... We also will be the only CSU to have a full Technology Research Park (land granted by the United State Department of Defense and other branches)... construction is underway for that, and that should tremendously boost research... You can look at it... www.csulb.edu/centers/researchpark/html/about_the_site.htmlSo basically, my conclusion comes to this... Stanford is in a category by itself... NOT THAT it's any more rigorous (in fact, many say that once you get into Stanford, it's hard not to pass if you give at least some kind of effort), but that it's a private school that carries POLITICAL CLOUT and PRESTIGE... The rest of the schools are very comparable to one another... If it's not Stanford, then it DEPENDS ON YOUR MAJOR and your preference... I know many people at LBSU who have transferred from UC Irvine to Long Beach State, from UCLA to Long Beach State (including 2 basketball players), from Cal Lutheran University to THE BEACH, and from Loyola Marymount University to the BEACH... That speaks for itself... We have hot women (watch MTV, and you'll see A LOT of Long Beach State women and students!), nice coastal location/weather, good academic programs, a very unique venue, TRADITION (HUGE Volleyball school), and 2 great volleyball programs... That's why we do what we do...  GO BEACH!!! |
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Post by roy on Apr 17, 2003 4:44:37 GMT -5
Basically, everyone has their own preferences... As for that offensive comment to Hawaii and LBSU, well that's just plain ignorance flat out... We've had plenty of discussions about this stuff in the past, and this thread was obviously started by a troll... Many people are blinded by biased publication rankings, when in fact in terms of education, you just might be getting the SAME level at several different schools... FOR EXAMPLE: I am a sophmore at THE BEACH... My Mass Communications class is taught by a professor that ALSO TEACHES GRAD SCHOOL at USC... Keep in mind that he teaches an INTRO course at LBSU, and has stated to us time and time again that he likes teaching at the BEACH much better... His name is Dr. Habte (foreign born) by the way, if any of you Trojans are in Grad School and studying Journalism/Mass Communications... In my Philosophy class (another intro course), my professor also teaches/researches/lectures at UCLA... That speaks for itself... PERIOD... We have some of the SAME FRIGGIN PROFESSORS... Not to mention many top ranked programs in their INDIVIDUAL DISCIPLINES (which is far more important than overall biased ratings when it comes to public schools - private schools are a different story)... AND one of the highest numbers of HIGH SCHOOL VALEDICTORIANS in California studying on this campus (350+) in our President Scholars program (former women's setter Kerri Nishimoto, and current bench Libero Taylor Peyton are both President Scholars)... About 200-400 valedictorians from up and down the state of California apply, only about 40 get in each year... Communications #1 in the state, #8 in the nation, the DESIGN program is in the Top 10 Nationally (Forensics/Speech and Debate Team is ranked #1 in the state, #5 in the nation under the Ivy Leagues), one of the top if not THE top public art school nationally, A top 20 Physics Graduate Program, Highly Regarded Psychology (one of the TOP schools whose undergraduates in Psychology go on to get their doctorates), Highly regarded Political Science, a very highly regarded Aeronautical Engineering Department (One of the top privately funded public engineering programs in the state - supported HEAVILY by nearby Boeing and Lockheed who also hire most of the engineering grads from the BEACH), blah blah blah you get the picture... We also will be the only CSU to have a full Technology Research Park (land granted by the United State Department of Defense and other branches)... construction is underway for that, and that should tremendously boost research... You can look at it... www.csulb.edu/centers/researchpark/html/about_the_site.htmlSo basically, my conclusion comes to this... Stanford is in a category by itself... NOT THAT it's any more rigorous (in fact, many say that once you get into Stanford, it's hard not to pass if you give at least some kind of effort), but that it's a private school that carries POLITICAL CLOUT and PRESTIGE... The rest of the schools are very comparable to one another... If it's not Stanford, then it DEPENDS ON YOUR MAJOR and your preference... I know many people at LBSU who have transferred from UC Irvine to Long Beach State, from UCLA to Long Beach State (including 2 basketball players), from Cal Lutheran University to THE BEACH, and from Loyola Marymount University to the BEACH... That speaks for itself... We have hot women (watch MTV, and you'll see A LOT of Long Beach State women and students!), nice coastal location/weather, good academic programs, a very unique venue, TRADITION (HUGE Volleyball school), and 2 great volleyball programs... That's why we do what we do... GO BEACH!!! Well said. If deciding on a college were as simple, there would be a whole bunch of top colleges that everyone wanted to get into and colleges that people just settle for. Recruits (or anyone for that matter) know that going to a college is more than the program or coach. Location, family, college atmosphere, college major, all these play factors. And one college doesn't make one better than another. True, the name Harvard will get you in the door of a lot of places, but all colleges have successful programs that educate their students. If they didn't, they wouldn't be accredited institutions. |
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Post by vballmom on Apr 17, 2003 9:08:20 GMT -5
Isn't it true that they don't award scholarships because they aren't D1? D1 and D2 both get the same number of scholarships. UCSD has decided that in order to maintain their high academic reputation, they can't offer athletic scholarships. Somehow, that would lessen their prestige. It doesn't seem to be a problem for Stanford, UCLA, or BYU. As far as which school, Surfin D Beach said it very well, they all have something to offer and you need to figure out what each school has that appeals to you. I know for us, when my son was choosing, his future teammates and the coaching staff were the most important factor. This was because of how far away from home he was going to be - he needed to feel like he was part of a family. Several of the schools did not feel that way to him, although they were tempting for their academic reputations, but he wouldn't have been as happy there. Totally a personal decision. The coaches at every school we looked at are very good, well respected, and very nice. You have to make the visit to know how you feel - looking at it on paper or talking to someone else, will not cut it. Recruits have these stars in their eyes - OMG, that is so-and-so - he's so awesome! They are people too and you have to go visit to put some perspective on the decision. |
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Post by Past Ball on Apr 17, 2003 10:14:47 GMT -5
Pepperdine is tough to beat, but Coach Dunphy is far more distant from the majority of his players than one might think. With little exception he deals with and through only one or at most two of the guys over the course of a season. It was that way when I played and that reputation had already developed. My experience was that Marv was not the same guy that I met on my recruiting trip! Any other past or current players care to share their views? This may be fairly normal in men's VB but I can only speak for my experience with the Waves. Would I do it again? All things considered, surely.  |
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Post by tigfan on Apr 17, 2003 10:16:06 GMT -5
I think we are all overlooking Banana University...which definitely has appeal.
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Post by vballmom on Apr 17, 2003 11:08:20 GMT -5
If you like bananas, you can be a Banana Slug at UC Santa Cruz Tig Fan ;D
You're right Past Ball, the coaches you meet on your recruiting trip are not exactly the same coaches once you are a player. One way to find out that kind of info is to ask current players and their parents what changes they noticed from recruit to player.
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Post by H2O on Apr 18, 2003 14:36:52 GMT -5
I vote for Williams College and Amherst in Massachesetts. Much nicer than East Palo Alto University or South Central.
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Post by Ne on Apr 18, 2003 18:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by Surfin D Beach on Apr 19, 2003 23:52:14 GMT -5
Sorry for the late response... Just got back from vacation... Dr. Habte just moved to California from Minnesota (where he was a professor for a very long time at the University of Minnesota and Minnesota State)... He graduated from UCLA back in the ancient times, but ended up moving to Minnesota after all his schooling... Anyhow, YOU CAN CALL the department yourself and ask them about Dr. Habte... He is one of the professors that evaluates graduate THESES... Don't always rely on websites - they sometimes are outdated... CALL THEM YOURSELF... I applaud you for your interest and research though... GO BEACH!!! |
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