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Nov 27, 2006 19:29:52 GMT -5
Post by blastingsand on Nov 27, 2006 19:29:52 GMT -5
Yep. Oregon can really disrupt your game with strong serving and a fast offense. Their libero is very good as well. Their downside is that they commit lots of errors -- plus as others have mentioned they didn't finish the season as well as they started. If you want to go that far back, this is the same Oregon team that was once favored by Pablo to beat UCLA (at Oregon). The bottom line is that we don't know how good they'll be in that first round match. If they can pull it together they're quite dangerous. I don't know about fast offense. Each time I've seen them they look pretty slow compared to the california teams. And they do commit a LOT (LOTS!!!!) of errors. But they were good enough to beat Cal at home. Could be dangerous if they're as good as they once were.
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Nov 27, 2006 19:41:34 GMT -5
Post by BearClause on Nov 27, 2006 19:41:34 GMT -5
I don't know about fast offense. Each time I've seen them they look pretty slow compared to the california teams. And they do commit a LOT (LOTS!!!!) of errors. But they were good enough to beat Cal at home. Could be dangerous if they're as good as they once were. I don't think their offense is where they find ways to win. They've got exceptional back-row defense, and keeping it alive is how they get it done.
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Nov 27, 2006 19:46:48 GMT -5
Post by jgrout on Nov 27, 2006 19:46:48 GMT -5
LBSU's low hitting percentage and number of hits lost to stuff blocks against Oregon was no fluke. In a 0-3 loss to Stanford at Maples, Oregon held Stanford down to a .202 hitting percentage, had 22 block assists and 37 digs. One way to beat the Ducks is to do unto them what they'd do unto you (along the lines of "Bear" Bryant's version of the Golden Rule). In that match, the Cardinal held the Ducks down to an -.088 hitting percentage, had 5 solo blocks and 20 block assists and 42 digs. Teams that don't have the weapons to out-Duck the Ducks at their own game are sometimes able to grind them down... UW survived a five-game grinder like that, though I bet they felt pretty ground down themselves by the end. Oregon's best game against Stanford in Eugene was game 2, when they lost 34-36 after running out of subs... that was another grinder.
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Nov 27, 2006 19:49:00 GMT -5
Post by Mix Breed-TEXAS,HI,LBSU on Nov 27, 2006 19:49:00 GMT -5
If Hawai'i wants to win against Oregon, they have to pass and play defense. Sonja Newcombe will be the problem for us because she's so explosive at the net. She's quick, fast, and knows what she's doing for a freshmen. She sure doesn't play like one. She plays both middle, and outside. Neticia is another, if she's on she's on if not then don't worry about her. Djuric has a top spin jump serve, hard and fast, and she has a heavy arm. The libero will be all over the court and plays outstanding defense. ... So let's be ready for um ladies, and you better bring the A+ game not just the A game.
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Nov 27, 2006 19:53:10 GMT -5
Post by BearClause on Nov 27, 2006 19:53:10 GMT -5
LBSU's low hitting percentage and number of hits lost to stuff blocks against Oregon was no fluke. In a 0-3 loss to Stanford at Maples, Oregon held Stanford down to a .202 hitting percentage, had 22 block assists and 37 digs. One way to beat the Ducks is to do unto them what they'd do unto you (along the lines of "Bear" Bryant's version of the Golden Rule). In that match, the Cardinal held the Ducks down to an -.088 hitting percentage, had 5 solo blocks and 20 block assists and 42 digs. Teams that don't have the weapons to out-Duck the Ducks at their own game are sometimes able to grind them down... UW survived a five-game grinder like that, though I bet they felt pretty ground down themselves by the end. Oregon's best game against Stanford in Eugene was game 2, when they lost 34-36 after running out of subs... that was another grinder. I thought Oregon was 2nd to last in blocks/game in the Pac-10. I don't know about blocks that don't touch the floor, but what I saw was some crazy fast back row defense.
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Nov 27, 2006 20:11:24 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2006 20:11:24 GMT -5
Looks like BC is right on this one, I looked it up out of curiosity.
BLOCKS G Solo Asst Total Avg/G ------------------------------------------------------- 1. UCLA................ 59 33 376 221.0 3.75 2. Arizona............. 62 58 339 227.5 3.67 3. California.......... 57 47 291 192.5 3.38 4. USC................. 58 61 228 175.0 3.02 5. Washington.......... 58 33 263 164.5 2.84 6. Stanford............ 52 42 208 146.0 2.81 7. Arizona State....... 63 45 256 173.0 2.75 8. Washington State.... 57 42 226 155.0 2.72 9. Oregon.............. 60 35 256 163.0 2.72 10. Oregon State........ 52 28 187 121.5 2.34
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Nov 27, 2006 20:17:14 GMT -5
Post by BearClause on Nov 27, 2006 20:17:14 GMT -5
Looks like BC is right on this one, I looked it up out of curiosity. BLOCKS G Solo Asst Total Avg/G ------------------------------------------------------- 1. UCLA................ 59 33 376 221.0 3.75 2. Arizona............. 62 58 339 227.5 3.67 3. California.......... 57 47 291 192.5 3.38 4. USC................. 58 61 228 175.0 3.02 5. Washington.......... 58 33 263 164.5 2.84 6. Stanford............ 52 42 208 146.0 2.81 7. Arizona State....... 63 45 256 173.0 2.75 8. Washington State.... 57 42 226 155.0 2.72 9. Oregon.............. 60 35 256 163.0 2.72 10. Oregon State........ 52 28 187 121.5 2.34 Well - I looked up these very same stats because someone was complaining that Pac-10 honors should be stat-based. Also - when I saw them play, they were easily outblocked and outhit, but Swoboda and Newcombe were covering the floor like they were possessed.
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Nov 27, 2006 20:35:07 GMT -5
Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Nov 27, 2006 20:35:07 GMT -5
Interesting you should mention their defense:
DIGS G No. Avg/G ------------------------------------------- 1. Arizona State....... 102 1893 18.56 2. Washington State.... 103 1845 17.91 3. USC................. 96 1661 17.30 4. Washington.......... 93 1577 16.96 5. UCLA................ 101 1699 16.82 6. Stanford............ 83 1363 16.42 7. Oregon.............. 97 1546 15.94 8. California.......... 93 1463 15.73 9. Arizona............. 106 1622 15.30 10. Oregon State........ 87 1327 15.25
OPPONENT HITTING PCT G Kills Errs Total Pct ------------------------------------------------------ 1. Oregon.............. 97 1286 709 3815 .151 2. Stanford............ 83 1106 602 3323 .152 3. Washington.......... 93 1225 655 3747 .152 4. California.......... 93 1204 620 3604 .162 5. USC................. 96 1379 707 4034 .167 6. UCLA................ 101 1454 741 4211 .169 7. Arizona............. 106 1533 784 4222 .177 8. Washington State.... 103 1644 736 4553 .199 9. Arizona State....... 102 1625 697 4603 .202 10. Oregon State........ 87 1498 516 3593 .273
I agree about their libero, but as a team they're kind of middling in digs. But they're #1 in opponents' hitting percentage. If they're not outstanding in blocking or digging, how are they doing that? Like I said, they're disruptive, starting with their serve:
SERVICE ACES G No. Avg/G ------------------------------------------- 1. Stanford............ 83 141 1.70 2. Oregon.............. 97 156 1.61 3. Washington.......... 93 144 1.55 4. Arizona............. 106 152 1.43 5. California.......... 93 129 1.39 6. USC................. 96 130 1.35 7. UCLA................ 101 132 1.31 8. Washington State.... 103 134 1.30 9. Arizona State....... 102 131 1.28 10. Oregon State........ 87 103 1.18
I'm trying to remember the things that have been said about Hawai'i, but it may be that Oregon matches up well with the Rainbow Wahine.
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Nov 27, 2006 21:14:05 GMT -5
Post by BearClause on Nov 27, 2006 21:14:05 GMT -5
I agree about their libero, but as a team they're kind of middling in digs. But they're #1 in opponents' hitting percentage. If they're not outstanding in blocking or digging, how are they doing that? Like I said, they're disruptive, starting with their serve: Maybe it's not one thing they do in particular, but the entire package they use to keep the balls off the floor.
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Nov 27, 2006 21:16:39 GMT -5
Post by blastingsand on Nov 27, 2006 21:16:39 GMT -5
I agree about their libero, but as a team they're kind of middling in digs. But they're #1 in opponents' hitting percentage. If they're not outstanding in blocking or digging, how are they doing that? Like I said, they're disruptive, starting with their serve: Maybe it's not one thing they do in particular, but the entire package they use to keep the balls off the floor. From what I've seen, I think its because their blockers get a lot of soft blocks that make it easier for the back row to pick up digs. Might be good for Hawaii to tool a lot if they want a win. But what about oregon? what would they have to do to win against Hawaii?
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Nov 27, 2006 21:19:29 GMT -5
Post by thewacster on Nov 27, 2006 21:19:29 GMT -5
Maybe it's not one thing they do in particular, but the entire package they use to keep the balls off the floor. From what I've seen, I think its because their blockers get a lot of soft blocks that make it easier for the back row to pick up digs. Might be good for Hawaii to tool a lot if they want a win. But what about oregon? what would they have to do to win against Hawaii? SERVE BOMBS!
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Nov 27, 2006 21:31:32 GMT -5
Post by Wolfgang on Nov 27, 2006 21:31:32 GMT -5
Has anyone flown over Oregon and Washington and looked out the window of the plane? I have. Very bizarre landscape. Hills and hills that look like volcanoes. Kinda beautiful and freaky at the same time. Like a German Shepherd puppy -- cute and ugly at the same time.
Actually, maybe it was just Washington. There are no political boundaries drawn on the earth when you're looking down from the sky.
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Nov 27, 2006 22:01:02 GMT -5
Post by Aikea on Nov 27, 2006 22:01:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know Oregons starting 7 or 8 players? I want to do a side by side comparison to UH.
In the press conference the Oregon players and coach seem very confident. Hopefully, they are over confident and takes UH lightly.
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Nov 27, 2006 22:43:50 GMT -5
Post by blastingsand on Nov 27, 2006 22:43:50 GMT -5
Hopefully, they are over confident and takes UH lightly. Might be the other way around.
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Nov 27, 2006 22:54:56 GMT -5
Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 27, 2006 22:54:56 GMT -5
Hopefully, they are over confident and takes UH lightly. Might be the other way around. Absolutely not. The Wahine are focused on the Ducks and are not taking them lightly. Shoji will have his team prepared and they'll take care of business.
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