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Post by P10lurker on Nov 28, 2006 12:52:12 GMT -5
Show me a middle blocker that plays back row and they'll be in contention. Morrison did it all for her team. Nana is the top middle blocker in the league but doesn't contribute from the back row. Her drama is sometimes a little distracting too. If she played at a more even level emotionally I'd bet she 'd be an even better player. What a ridiculous comment. What is wrong with having fun and being enthusiastic, do you ever watch men’s NCAA basketball, football, soccer, volleyball…her excitement and celebration is not over the top, it is refreshing and fun to watch, many of the UCLA women show the same excitement and celebration! Nana was ripped off, you could almost singly credit both Meriwether and Spicer for UCLA’s success this season. Next year will be a big issue for UCLA losing Meriwether, I don’t see Johnson or any middle filling this void.
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Post by BearClause on Nov 28, 2006 13:09:25 GMT -5
Show me a middle blocker that plays back row and they'll be in contention. Maybe Jennifer Joines? Becky Potter made 3rd team AA even though her offensive stats weren't stellar for a middle. What helped her was being a primary passer and collecting 3+ digs/game. If you have watched most of UCLA's games even with a pass behind the 10 foot line Spicer would still set Nana and she still would terminate the ball. believe me its hard to hit the ball when its coming from behind you it's also damn hard to set a ball like that ... this speaks volumes of spicer's abilities just as much as meriwether's. I don't think I've seen an NCAA player who can set a crappy pass as well as Spicer. Tracking it down, on the run, and not even a hint of being a double-contact.
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Post by dishdaball on Nov 28, 2006 13:19:54 GMT -5
Show me a middle blocker that plays back row and they'll be in contention. Morrison did it all for her team. Nana is the top middle blocker in the league but doesn't contribute from the back row. Her drama is sometimes a little distracting too. If she played at a more even level emotionally I'd bet she 'd be an even better player. What a ridiculous comment. What is wrong with having fun and being enthusiastic, do you ever watch men’s NCAA basketball, football, soccer, volleyball…her excitement and celebration is not over the top, it is refreshing and fun to watch, many of the UCLA women show the same excitement and celebration! Nana was ripped off, you could almost singly credit both Meriwether and Spicer for UCLA’s success this season. Next year will be a big issue for UCLA losing Meriwether, I don’t see Johnson or any middle filling this void. you are totally missing the point I was making - I agree that she is the best middle blocker in the Pac 10. She is a force for UCLA and Spicer sets her well. She doesn't play back row and I think it hurt her chances for POY. I'm not exactly sure why she didn't play back row for that much....I saw her hit a few outside balls this year that she really ripped. Why not use her for a back row attack? I don't think anyone will fill her void next year but UCLA will be good as a team just the same. As far as the drama statement - IMO the actions distract from the task at hand.
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Post by Gatorboy on Nov 28, 2006 13:49:58 GMT -5
It's been discussed at length that due to her usually reserved nature, her teammates asked Meriwether to celebrate more and show more emotion. I think she's doing all right.
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Post by ooreo46 on Nov 28, 2006 18:06:12 GMT -5
Christal Morrison was selected as Pac10 POY because without her, Washington becomes a pretender. Other teams likes Stanford, UCLA, USC, etc. have a load of hitters that they can consistently go to to get a kill.
Concerning Washington, Mussie and Sandell are at best role players and Washington's middles can contribute their success to Thompson. Morrison, on the other hand, does it all for Washington; digs, passes, serves, blocks, and provides a huge offense on the left, right, and in the back.
As for Nana, she did not make POY because of her LACK of all-around game. Those of you who say playing backrow shouldn't matter in regards to a POY selection are nuts!
A POY should be above-average/best at all the intangibles (which means not only hitting % and blocking, but also serving, playing backrow defense, passing, etc.).
Christal displayed her talents throughout the Pac10 season and Nana did not; it's that simple. Also, someone mentioned that it was the coaches who voted on this. They obviously recognized Christal's contributions to the team and the impact she has on the Huskiesquad, giving her the nod for POY. Nana, most likely, was the runner-up candidate.
And about MB's playing backrow, or at least those who served, well, there is/was a bunch of em I can remember. Maybe Nana can't serve or play defense, or isn't needed in the back, who knows? Not until she displays her all-around talent (if any) will she be recognized for a POY award.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 28, 2006 19:02:06 GMT -5
Christal Morrison was selected as Pac10 POY because without her, Washington becomes a pretender. Other teams likes Stanford, UCLA, USC, etc. have a load of hitters that they can consistently go to to get a kill. Concerning Washington, Mussie and Sandell are at best role players and Washington's middles can contribute their success to Thompson. Morrison, on the other hand, does it all for Washington; digs, passes, serves, blocks, and provides a huge offense on the left, right, and in the back. As for Nana, she did not make POY because of her LACK of all-around game. Those of you who say playing backrow shouldn't matter in regards to a POY selection are nuts!A POY should be above-average/best at all the intangibles (which means not only hitting % and blocking, but also serving, playing backrow defense, passing, etc.). Christal displayed her talents throughout the Pac10 season and Nana did not; it's that simple. Also, someone mentioned that it was the coaches who voted on this. They obviously recognized Christal's contributions to the team and the impact she has on the Huskiesquad, giving her the nod for POY. Nana, most likely, was the runner-up candidate. And about MB's playing backrow, or at least those who served, well, there is/was a bunch of em I can remember. Maybe Nana can't serve or play defense, or isn't needed in the back, who knows? Not until she displays her all-around talent (if any) will she be recognized for a POY award. I will agree that Morrison wins it over Nana because she is the complete volleyball player, but hold off on your rant of without her Washington is a pretender and our middles would be nothing without Thompson. Mussie, Sandell, and Collymore are all players that can step up... Morrison just happens to get the most sets because she's proven she's reliable in tight situations. Even without Morrison, I would put those 3 outside hitters up agaisnt any in the Pac-10. And we also have as a freshman redshirt one of the top outside hitters for her class in Becky Perry. And save your middles trash talking until next year when Thompson is gone. If our middles sucks next year, then you can have your way, but my guess is that as long as Miyashiro is in the back row being the best libero in the Pac-10 and making great passes, any decent setter will be able to run the Washington offense. Oh and Jim doesn't like to have a million players on his roster... he goes for coaching quality over quantity.... tell that to UCLA who has I think 20 players on the register
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Post by cougvb on Nov 28, 2006 19:10:54 GMT -5
Are you all assuming playing all-around is a requirement, or is it actually in writing somewhere? In the Mtn West Conference, Lindsey Lewis won it last year (MB), but Ariel Salvo (OH) won it this year (plays all-around). Does PAC 10 or AVCA have a rule that their POY has to play all around???
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Post by ooreo46 on Nov 28, 2006 19:14:11 GMT -5
I am not trashing Washington's (your teams) middles. Hell, I'd pick them over Sanders and Gregory of Hawaii anyday. Thompson is a great setter and gives her hitters a chance to score. Christal Morrison is in a completely different league than Sandell, Mussie, Deesing, Swarbrick, and Collymore. Deesing and Swarbrick are good, but you have to admit that Courtney has a lot to do with it. I'll make an argument for Swarbrick - she'll be an AA next year. I haven't seen Becky play yet so I can't say anything about her. I've seen Tamari play high school ball and on TV and she was/is stellar. Honestly, if Christal did not play for Washington all the past seasons, do you see the Huskies being the same without her? In my opinion, I don't. Christal is just that good and a very gifted player; Washington's Big-Time player Washington is very lucky to have her.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 21:01:19 GMT -5
So who makes the AVCA Pacific Region team? The region is Big Sky, Pac-10, and WCC. I don't see any Big Sky player making the list. There are several very deserving players from the WCC (Carlson, Milo, Nyrop, and Cmaylo). Making the list seems to be the key to consideration for at least 2nd team All-American. My take on the 12 who will be named to the All-Pac Region Team: Foluke Akinradewo, STAN MB Cynthia Barboza, STAN OH Kristen Carlson, USD OH Anna Cmaylo, SCU MB Asia Kaczor, USC OH Nana Meriwether, UCLA MB Christal Morrison, WASH OH Angie Pressey, CAL OH Kristin Richards, STAN OH Debora Seilhamer, USC L Nellie Spicer, UCLA S Courtney Thompson, WASH S And the 6 All-Pac Region HM: Katie Carter, UCLA OH Christie Dawson, USD RS/OPP Alesha Deesing, WASH MB Bryn Kehoe, STAN S Sophia Milo, PEP MB Jessica Swarbrick, WASH MB But if any of their teams lose in the first round, ouch.
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Post by blastingsand on Nov 28, 2006 21:47:32 GMT -5
Christal displayed her talents throughout the Pac10 season and Nana did not; it's that simple. Also, someone mentioned that it was the coaches who voted on this. They obviously recognized Christal's contributions to the team and the impact she has on the Huskiesquad, giving her the nod for POY. Nana, most likely, was the runner-up candidate. Nana did not show her talents throught the Pac10 season? Have you not been watching UCLA? I've seen Nana drop off the net and have a couple of nice digs in some games.
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Post by beachman on Nov 28, 2006 21:58:30 GMT -5
You are nuts....Chrystal Morrison is the complete package and Nana is NOT! No comparison between these two...the correct player in the PAC-10 got POY! Before you start talking about National POY just remember that her team must be in the FF to get that recognition..... Not true. Stacey Gordon was co-NPOY and tOSU did not make the FF. I am sure there are other examples, but that comes first to mind. I stand corrected.....you are right....although it has been a loooong time since that happened....GENERALLY SPEAKING if you ain't in the FF you ain't gonna be POY!
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Post by beachman on Nov 28, 2006 22:03:29 GMT -5
One of the reasons that we struggle so much on the International level is because we have so many players who are not multi-dimensional enough in their games.....most of our coaches do NOT work on training our MB's and OH's to learn how to play anywhere other than at the net.....Nana is a good example of that and I could mention tons of others who were on the usual VT list of collegiate studdesses, who come to the OTC thinking that they are going to dominate in the international games like they did in college and after the first international competition their heads are spinning and they become very aware of where they are lacking.....some just go off in the distance and try to earn a living in Puerto Rico or some other obscure place!!!
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Post by BeiBei on Nov 28, 2006 22:22:06 GMT -5
Christal displayed her talents throughout the Pac10 season and Nana did not; it's that simple. Also, someone mentioned that it was the coaches who voted on this. They obviously recognized Christal's contributions to the team and the impact she has on the Huskiesquad, giving her the nod for POY. Nana, most likely, was the runner-up candidate. Nana did not show her talents throught the Pac10 season? Have you not been watching UCLA? I've seen Nana drop off the net and have a couple of nice digs in some games. Nana will most likely break the PAC 10 single season hitting percentage record (by quite a margin) and she is also on pace to set a new block assist (single season) record, yeah she probably did not show her talent throughout the season to achieve those results.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 22:26:40 GMT -5
Not true. Stacey Gordon was co-NPOY and tOSU did not make the FF. I am sure there are other examples, but that comes first to mind. I stand corrected.....you are right....although it has been a loooong time since that happened....GENERALLY SPEAKING if you ain't in the FF you ain't gonna be POY! Unh, Beachum, I'll help you out on this post, but you gotta hire your own PR firm for your next post. It appears you made a typo and hit the adjacent s key instead of the d key. I think you meant to say "It had been a long time since that happened" instead of "it has been a long time since that happened", cuz otherwise a lot of people might point out that it has been not quite two years since SG and Ogonna were co-POYs! Most in-people also know that SG wouldn't even have gotten co-MVP if it weren't for all the flak on this forum about how she was solely deserving, being the only truly great all-around player, what with Ogonna being shielded in the backrow and unable to dig and pass and all. ;D Oops, that was supposed to go on the Nana thread.
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Post by BeiBei on Nov 28, 2006 22:28:36 GMT -5
Newcombe is on the all PAC 10 HM list and Carico is not,yet Carico is the FOY
However, this had happened before to Paula Gentil and Sam Tortorello in 2002
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