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Post by 808 on Mar 26, 2007 16:34:11 GMT -5
According to the statistics on the UH website she hit .260 (174k, 69 err, 403 att) vs the teams they played who were ranked in the top 25. five of those of those matches were against teams who did not end up in the top 25 (NMSU 3 and Pepp 2) 260. is good not great. Well, in matches she played against top-25 teams, she averaged over 5 kills a game. I don't think anyone mentioned anything about hitting percentage, and I do agree that she needs to bring that number up, especially against the top teams, but the point is, she puts the ball down. Jamie's good . . . and continues to get better. But Hawaii needs to get her some help or other teams will key on her wherever she is on the court. With Mason gone next year, someone (and hopefully it will be more than one person) will have to step up and it will be interesting to see who that will be.
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Post by Tiruray2004 on Mar 27, 2007 1:28:59 GMT -5
Stalls, is a fine player, but not an international player by any stretch. I know they wanted others, Hodge, Fawcett, Harmotto, Houghtelling and I am sure others besides. These kids along with Foluke and company fit the build. Stalls need to play in the professional leagues overseas to up her level of play. She is NCAA-good but needs exposure to the international level style of volleyball. Remember she opted to train with a Japanese professional team after spending time at the OTC after her high school senior year. I would imagine she should have improved tremendously and should have dominated college vball immediately. But not really.
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Post by roofed! on Mar 27, 2007 2:07:31 GMT -5
Stalls need to play in the professional leagues overseas to up her level of play. She is NCAA-good but needs exposure to the international level style of volleyball. Remember she opted to train with a Japanese professional team after spending time at the OTC after her high school senior year. I would imagine she should have improved tremendously and should have dominated college vball immediately. But not really. Yup, given the training she received at the OTC in the run-up to 2004 Olympics, including a stint in Japan, she should have dominated collegiate vball. Last season, she played well in the second half of the season, and maybe she'll have a record breaking season this fall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2007 2:16:22 GMT -5
Well, in matches she played against top-25 teams, she averaged over 5 kills a game. I don't think anyone mentioned anything about hitting percentage, and I do agree that she needs to bring that number up, especially against the top teams, but the point is, she puts the ball down. Jamie's good . . . and continues to get better. But Hawaii needs to get her some help or other teams will key on her wherever she is on the court. With Mason gone next year, someone (and hopefully it will be more than one person) will have to step up and it will be interesting to see who that will be. A lot of people's judgement are clouded by the fact that she is remembered last season for that huge game she had against USC with 35 kills, hitting over .300 She's definitely the type of player that can completely take over a match, it kind of makes us forget the poor matches she had earlier in the season. She just needs to work on her consistency, not many outside hitters hit .300 averaging 5+ kills a game, if she can do that next season she's probably a first team AA.
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Post by roy on Mar 27, 2007 2:47:34 GMT -5
Yup, given the training she received at the OTC in the run-up to 2004 Olympics, including a stint in Japan, she should have dominated collegiate vball. Last season, she played well in the second half of the season, and maybe she'll have a record breaking season this fall. Stalls has disappointed me a little. I do hope she has a great season in 2007, however do to her training at OTC, I expect so much more from her. Her game is still very comprable to other college players. While I would say she is probably one of the top 3 middles in the country, with the extra training she had, I have to hold her to a higher standard. I honestly think Elmer was more dominant than Stalls. But Stalls has another year to prove me wrong.
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Post by VolleyTX on Mar 27, 2007 8:45:47 GMT -5
I'm not really a Stalls fan (I'll take Meriwether anyday!), but she should probably be given a little slack. She has been playing on some very sore and injured knees. She had them fixed before last season. She played so much better this past year as a result. I think she is finally getting herself 100% healthy again. I'm thinking we really haven't yet seen all her potential.
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Post by FreeBall on Mar 27, 2007 13:00:02 GMT -5
I agree that improved health was a major factor in Stalls playing at a higher level last season. However, I think an even bigger factor was the quality of the setting when compared to the previous two years. Holloway and Stalls developed a good rhythm, particularly on attacks in front of the setter. This is one of many reasons that I hope to see the Huskers running a 5-1 again next season.
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Post by bunnywailer on Mar 27, 2007 22:25:31 GMT -5
I saw Stalls' actually play with the National Team back in the 2003-4 timeframe when she was still training at the USOTC. She was still young and in development at the time. What struck me the most about her is that fundamentally her blocking was better than 98% of the collegiate middles I've seen play. Obviously a by-product of two things - getting better training on blocking (particularly read-blocking and making the correct read) and seeing the game at the speed of the international game.
I think given her time training with the USA Women and time spent in Japan, people obviously expected more from her when she returned to the college game by attending Nebraska. However, that must be tempered by the fact that despite all this training, she doesn't seem to possess international caliber physical talent, or maybe we haven't seen that emerge yet. I don't think she has as much physical talent as some of the dominant NCAA All-American middles (the girl from UCLA for example). It takes a combination of talent and coaching/training to reach the next level. Maybe Stalls has this, maybe she doesn't.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Mar 28, 2007 8:41:18 GMT -5
Really, does anyone expect Logan Tom to return to the NT? Either she's waiting on a personal invitation from the Pope, or she's simply not interested under any circumstances.
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Post by Tex_VB_Fan on Mar 28, 2007 9:42:45 GMT -5
Stalls need to play in the professional leagues overseas to up her level of play. She is NCAA-good but needs exposure to the international level style of volleyball. Remember she opted to train with a Japanese professional team after spending time at the OTC after her high school senior year. I would imagine she should have improved tremendously and should have dominated college vball immediately. But not really. Yup, given the training she received at the OTC in the run-up to 2004 Olympics, including a stint in Japan, she should have dominated collegiate vball. Last season, she played well in the second half of the season, and maybe she'll have a record breaking season this fall. Dominate? There was no need for her to dominate playing with Pavan and Larson. Nebraska didn't need for her to get 70 swings every match. She more than held her own and became a legitimate weapon for the Huskers. Let's not get ahead of ourselves; she's improved every season and has one more year. I guess she may never live up to some people's expectations....
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Post by roy on Mar 28, 2007 13:08:52 GMT -5
Dominate? There was no need for her to dominate playing with Pavan and Larson. Nebraska didn't need for her to get 70 swings every match. She more than held her own and became a legitimate weapon for the Huskers. Let's not get ahead of ourselves; she's improved every season and has one more year. I guess she may never live up to some people's expectations.... I have to disagree with some of this. You could see the level that Elmer was at in her junior and senior year even with players like Stalls, Pavan, Houghtelling, and Larson on her team. There was the simple fact that you recognized that she could impose her presence on the court. She could get that critical kill or block that could swing the momentum for her team. Players on the other side of the court had to recognize her presence when she rotated to the front row. Stalls has yet to really establish that presence. And while it may be more difficult for Stalls as she is in the same class year as Pavan and Houghtelling, Stalls would be a “6th year senior” without the injuries in 2007 if you take the 2 years at OTC into consideration with the 3 years she has spent in Nebraska.
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Post by Tex_VB_Fan on Mar 28, 2007 14:48:17 GMT -5
Well it's obvious Tracy has yet to perform up to your standards but the fact of the matter is she's a second team AA, she's got a ring and has an invite to the national team. I guess her progress has been significant in the eye's of those that matter. Cheers!
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Post by pineapple on Mar 28, 2007 16:20:39 GMT -5
Well, in matches she played against top-25 teams, she averaged over 5 kills a game. I don't think anyone mentioned anything about hitting percentage, and I do agree that she needs to bring that number up, especially against the top teams, but the point is, she puts the ball down. Jamie's good . . . and continues to get better. But Hawaii needs to get her some help or other teams will key on her wherever she is on the court. With Mason gone next year, someone (and hopefully it will be more than one person) will have to step up and it will be interesting to see who that will be. Jamie will be playing with teammates of similiar caliber- Simmons, Ferrell and Herring, not to mention Kaufman, who I think next season will be her coming out season. Never in Hawaii's history has it had on the same team 4 or 5 players who are, in my humble opinion, potential all americans. Their athleticisms speak for themselves: Simmons is tall, agile and quick who can hit hard or tool the ball. She reminds me of former Wahine great Susan Eagye in body type. Ferrell, I read somewhere recently, hits the ball harder than anyone else playing today. She is the prototype of UH former great 3-time all american Deitre Collins, according to Mick Haley her mentor. As for Herring, while only 5'10", she can touch 10'3". After seeing her play twice, I have to say that she will be like a Kim Willoughby, who was only 5'11 or 5'10" according to some accounts. But Kaufman may surprise us (steal the show) with her explosive nature. She may even outjump the others. I conclude, in my not so astute opinion, that Jamie will be surrounded with lots of go-to players. All five are potential all-americans. I am NOT necessarily saying the Wahine will win it all this year or even the next. I am saying that with the caliber of athleticism coming in, we potentially will be seeing the best Wahine team ever in just a few years, if not next year. ;D
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Post by StuffU on Mar 28, 2007 21:53:29 GMT -5
Never in Hawaii's history has it had on the same team 4 or 5 players who are, in my humble opinion, potential all americans. 2003 - Willoughby, Kahumoku, Duggins, Kamana'o that makes four players on the same team that were All-Americans. And, imho, Gustin had all the tools to be an All-American. My feeling is that she would've been an AA over Duggins if she didn't have to give up her sophomore year swinging OH, then have the misfortune to be set by Vakasausau instead of Carey. I'm sure if I went back to the Deitre Collins years, I could find a few more teams that fit the criteria.
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Post by pineapple on Mar 28, 2007 23:18:09 GMT -5
Never in Hawaii's history has it had on the same team 4 or 5 players who are, in my humble opinion, potential all americans. 2003 - Willoughby, Kahumoku, Duggins, Kamana'o that makes four players on the same team that were All-Americans. And, imho, Gustin had all the tools to be an All-American. My feeling is that she would've been an AA over Duggins if she didn't have to give up her sophomore year swinging OH, then have the misfortune to be set by Vakasausau instead of Carey. I'm sure if I went back to the Deitre Collins years, I could find a few more teams that fit the criteria. Oh yes. I didn't mean to slight them. I should have stated my point directly which is this: I think the incoming crop will make the Wahine team more potent than ever. I didn't even include Hittle. I think she too may become AA. If I recall, someone else (was it Shoji himself?), said the same thing I am saying. I am just an echo. Before we get off on a tangent, remember my post was in response to 808's who said: "Jamie's good . . . and continues to get better. But Hawaii needs to get her some help or other teams will key on her wherever she is on the court. With Mason gone next year, someone (and hopefully it will be more than one person) will have to step up and it will be interesting to see who that will be. " But I do stand corrected.
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