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Post by vbfanatic on May 4, 2007 11:05:42 GMT -5
So does Nebraska have a scholarship now? Did they do this to make room for either Salvo or Anderson? Cook will be eating his words if he signs Salvo. Word is that she was there last week on a visit. How often does Nebraska have a scholarship open for a transfer 4 months before the season unless Cook "makes room for the transfer". If Salvo signs there this is going to stink of unethical behavior. Why would a player want to go someplace where the coach released a recruit to make room for her???
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2007 11:08:36 GMT -5
I'm dumb, who is Salvo???
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Post by Anonymousnow on May 4, 2007 11:09:33 GMT -5
All parties may benefit KK but I have to imagine that this will be used against Cook in the future. Regardless of the true circumstances.
It might still come back to bite him with a top recruit and matters of being true to your word.
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Post by cougvb on May 4, 2007 13:43:09 GMT -5
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Why would a player want to go someplace where the coach released a recruit to make room for her???[/quote]
Why would a coach want a player who bailed on her team and coach at the last minute? You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. All's fair in love and volleball, evidently.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 4, 2007 13:50:44 GMT -5
It's "deduced", not "deducted". "Deduct" is something you do when filing a tax return, like making up charitable donations so that you can deduct them.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2007 13:57:45 GMT -5
It's also "loses", but what the hell.
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Post by romeo on May 4, 2007 14:03:07 GMT -5
Same thing: Main Entry: de·duct Function: transitive verb Pronunciation: di-'d&kt, de- Etymology: Latin deductus, past participle of deducere 1 : to take away (an amount) from a total : SUBTRACT 2 : DEDUCE , INFER It's "deduced", not "deducted". "Deduct" is something you do when filing a tax return, like making up charitable donations so that you can deduct them.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 4, 2007 14:05:01 GMT -5
Yeah, that one gets me, too. But I chose "deducted" because to choose every little thing would damage my reputation.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2007 14:07:20 GMT -5
Sure, but Romeo just ate your sandwich.
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Post by Wolfgang on May 4, 2007 14:12:20 GMT -5
Same thing: Main Entry: de·duct Function: transitive verb Pronunciation: di-'d&kt, de- Etymology: Latin deductus, past participle of deducere 1 : to take away (an amount) from a total : SUBTRACT 2 : DEDUCE , INFER It's "deduced", not "deducted". "Deduct" is something you do when filing a tax return, like making up charitable donations so that you can deduct them. Well, dammit. I knew I should've checked first.
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Post by roy on May 4, 2007 14:17:52 GMT -5
I am still trying to get a good handle on all of this because a lot of this is not making sense to me. I think a lot of the circumstances will hinge on a time line of when the events took place. Here is what we know (and posters can feel completely free to correct me if I am mistaken). Starting in 2006, Nebraska had 12 players on the roster with 3 seniors (Houghtelling, Mancuso, and Busboom). Husker fans can probably clarify if all players are on scholarship. We also know that Cook tends to recruit early. For some odd reason, I can’t log onto Rich Kern’s site to see exactly when each commitment was made but we know all 4 signed during the early signing period in November of 2006. We knew sometime before the 2006 season that Nebraska was going to redshirt Houghtelling due to her injury. We know that Minch originally commit to Nebraska and signed her NLI in November of 2006. Sometime during or after the 2006 season, Bartek decided to transfer (again, not sure on the exact time frame).
Here is where I start scratching my head. Assuming all 12 players for the 2006 season were on scholarship, Cook recruited 4 players with only potential 3 scholarships available. The only person I see not having a scholarship is Schwartz which could be possible. I can’t fault Cook for recruiting that many players, as you couldn’t forecast that Houghtelling would redshirt based on an injury. But with Bartek’s transfer, there should be enough scholarships for all 4 recruits. The other aspect that really sort of leaves me confused is that Cook knew that Houghtelling was injuried. Why wait until now to tell Minch that she can’t get a scholarship? It seems that everyone knew Houghtelling would return in 2007, so why wasn’t it mentioned to Minch earlier? I think vbfanatic makes a great point in another thread. Most coaches would want her to still attend their program to get their training and learn their system. Why send her to a junior college?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2007 14:57:22 GMT -5
I am still trying to get a good handle on all of this because a lot of this is not making sense to me. I think a lot of the circumstances will hinge on a time line of when the events took place. Here is what we know (and posters can feel completely free to correct me if I am mistaken). Starting in 2006, Nebraska had 12 players on the roster with 3 seniors (Houghtelling, Mancuso, and Busboom). Husker fans can probably clarify if all players are on scholarship. We also know that Cook tends to recruit early. For some odd reason, I can’t log onto Rich Kern’s site to see exactly when each commitment was made but we know all 4 signed during the early signing period in November of 2006. We knew sometime before the 2006 season that Nebraska was going to redshirt Houghtelling due to her injury. We know that Minch originally commit to Nebraska and signed her NLI in November of 2006. Sometime during or after the 2006 season, Bartek decided to transfer (again, not sure on the exact time frame). Here is where I start scratching my head. Assuming all 12 players for the 2006 season were on scholarship, Cook recruited 4 players with only potential 3 scholarships available. The only person I see not having a scholarship is Schwartz which could be possible. I can’t fault Cook for recruiting that many players, as you couldn’t forecast that Houghtelling would redshirt based on an injury. But with Bartek’s transfer, there should be enough scholarships for all 4 recruits. The other aspect that really sort of leaves me confused is that Cook knew that Houghtelling was injuried. Why wait until now to tell Minch that she can’t get a scholarship? It seems that everyone knew Houghtelling would return in 2007, so why wasn’t it mentioned to Minch earlier? I think vbfanatic makes a great point in another thread. Most coaches would want her to still attend their program to get their training and learn their system. Why send her to a junior college? Busboom, Mancuso and Houghtelling all on scholarship. Bartek on scholarship--her departure although not surprising was not announced until Jan. 07 if I remember correctly. Schwartz on partial two year scholarship but not sure when it is in effect--I thought she was walk on status first two years. The girl from Iowa(Banforth???) was going to walk on but I haven't heard anything about her in ages. With Houghtelling taking a redshirt that surely doesn't count against the incoming kids does it? I do agree with Keystone in that if the coaching staff didn't think she could contribute based on something they discovered or saw recently that releasing her is a win for her rather than burning a year of her eligibility or forcing her to come and leave on her own. This whole situation is just strange.......especially the juco thing. I'll make a judgement on how Cook handled it after my sources close to the Huskers find out some information for me. I do agree that early commiting can hurt your program and potentially your reputation over the long haul if things don't work out.
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Post by huskervbfan on May 4, 2007 15:15:14 GMT -5
I'm not 100% positive but I believe that the DS/L position usually got just a two-year "floating" scholarship. In other words, the athlete might get those scholarship years any time during the four-year period. That gives the coach flexibility to handle situations like this. IF this is the case, Schwartz probably got a scholarship season last year since there were only 12 on the roster and now has two years to get one more.
Can any Husker fan confirm this as a previous tendency?
Edit: Looks like EOV posted about the same time I did and suggested the same thing.
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Post by abcd098 on May 4, 2007 15:46:57 GMT -5
So do redshirt players get a scholarship as well?
If Salvo or Anderson do transfer, they will have to sit out a year because they were not granted a release, so they will be using a redshirt year.
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Post by huskervbfan on May 4, 2007 15:58:25 GMT -5
Good question. I think whether they get a scholarship or not is optional. Anyone getting Salvo would only be getting two years of athletic eligibility (Anderson has three I believe) so it might happen that they would have to pay for their own red-shirt year.
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