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Post by bomber on Sept 10, 2007 18:28:26 GMT -5
Bik, your Wahine haven'd finished losing yet, not by a long stretch. And their dominance in the Bump League, er WAC, will probably be at an end this year. Excuse me if I put little weight in your prognostication ability. I don't think anything chances in the WAC although I do expect New Mexico State to put up a good fight. Are the Wahine done losing yet? considering they play Nebraska at Nebraska, I'd say no but untill Nebraska proves otherwise, I'm going to believe Hawai'i can win. Relax and have another Shirley Temple.... I'm already relaxed bomber, you are the uptight one. I don't like Shirley Temples. Much like your Badgers, it's too weak for my liking. I think the Wahine have already proved otherwise......... |
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Post by OU-OhYeah! on Sept 10, 2007 19:08:19 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Purdue won three this weekend, and has losses to two ranked teams and Utah, lost 40 more votes than did Notre Dame, who lost twice, including once to Alabama. Actually, Notre Dame beat Alabama 3-2 (the night after Alabama beat Ohio by a similar score). |
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Post by OU-OhYeah! on Sept 10, 2007 19:09:02 GMT -5
Minnesota fans should rejoice,someone loves ya. A lot of someones! |
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Post by eastcoastbias on Sept 10, 2007 19:36:55 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Purdue won three this weekend, and has losses to two ranked teams and Utah, lost 40 more votes than did Notre Dame, who lost twice, including once to Alabama. Actually, Notre Dame beat Alabama 3-2 (the night after Alabama beat Ohio by a similar score). Purdue was 3-0 this weekend? I just assumed they lost, dropping so many votes. And it's good to see that the pollers have plenty of fath in my Dukees. I was thinking they may drop to the twenties. The pollers know the true ability of Jolene's kids. |
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Post by clivehusker on Sept 10, 2007 21:47:34 GMT -5
Does it matter? of course, considering that the Huskers have advanced to the final four just once playing away from home. Once again matches in the past some how are a contribution to how a team with different players or matured players are going to play in the future...  |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 10, 2007 22:02:13 GMT -5
Does it matter? of course, considering that the Huskers have advanced to the final four just once playing away from home. Once again matches in the past some how are a contribution to how a team with different players or matured players are going to play in the future... Not really but struggling to make the final four outside of Nebraska has been par for course for the Cornhuskers. Remember, they almost lost to Minnesota in Gainesville last year. |
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Post by ugopher on Sept 10, 2007 22:05:25 GMT -5
I originally thought that MN would drop much further. Not because of the loss to Cal but the way they lost. However, after further review, I thought it was just a strong match by Cal and that MN wouldn't drop to 20, maybe 16-17. But 13 is much, much better than I originally thought. Again, as it was mentioned several times in this thread, I'm not sure who I would rank ahead of MN. They need to have a strong showing this weekend, however.
And, yes, the nearest D1 school to Hawai'i is 3,000 miles away and everyone loves to come to paradise, yada, yada, yada. But we hear how tough it is for Hawai'i to travel to mainland but never so much about how the mainlanders have to travel to Hawai'i and the distractions "paradise" pose. Call it what it is, a definite home court advantage and that needs to be taken into account. Hawai'i will pad its record when the conference begins and look good come tournament time. But, then, so will NU, not that they don't have a strong team but they don't have a strong conference.
The fun thing about the poll is that we will enjoy many of the same comments, snide remarks, etc for every week throughout the season.
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Sept 10, 2007 22:14:44 GMT -5
1. Duke should drop more.
2. Gophers are about right for now.
3. Sure, Wisconsin hasn't really beaten anyone. But losing to BYU doesn't mean you stink. I think they'll correct themselves.
4. If you're gonna put A&M in, why not Central Arkansas, Georgia, etc.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 10, 2007 23:08:39 GMT -5
And, yes, the nearest D1 school to Hawai'i is 3,000 miles away and everyone loves to come to paradise, yada, yada, yada. But we hear how tough it is for Hawai'i to travel to mainland but never so much about how the mainlanders have to travel to Hawai'i and the distractions "paradise" pose. When teams come to play Hawai'i, they fly in once, and out once so while the travel for visiting opponents may be long, they only have to do it once whereas Hawai'i has to make equally long or longer trips NUMEROUS times in a season. I really don't buy the distraction argument. Call it what it is, a definite home court advantage and that needs to be taken into account. Sure, I'd have no problem taking this into account if others take into account the amount of travel Hawai'i has to do in the post season. Hawai'i will pad its record when the conference begins and look good come tournament time. No, they'll look good because they will be playing well by the time the tourney rolls around. Shoji always has his teams playing their best when it matters most. Hawai'i has made 9 straight regional appearances, and it's not like the Wahine have been playing cupcakes to get there either. The fun thing about the poll is that we will enjoy many of the same comments, snide remarks, etc for every week throughout the season. I agree, although I don't think Wisconsin or Minnesota will be around for the fun.  |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 11, 2007 0:58:05 GMT -5
BiK, as much as you love to rip on Wisconsin, I don't see you making many original points here, so I am taking it that you are just enjoying another round of Badger bashing. I think that some of the Badger fans on the board, including me, have made the points that: the Badgers' non-conference schedule this year was really weak for an experienced team, the Badgers are in the top ten pretty much by default, and that Gardner-Webb was atrocious against the Badgers (and you could say the same about Columbia). Still, I think the Badgers will end up justifying their ranking once things shake out, although the performances against BYU and LMU aren't comforting. Also, to be fair, the Badgers weren't trying to pad their stats with one sided beatings against Gardner-Webb and Columbia, as Simpson and Dykstra didn't play in either match and Dolgner only played part of the match against Gardner-Webb and sat out against Columbia.
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Post by runninrebel44 on Sept 11, 2007 9:06:24 GMT -5
If you are having to excuse your performance in wins over Columbia and Gardner-Webb, I have a hard time fathoming what you are going to do once the Big Ten season hits.
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Post by bomber on Sept 11, 2007 9:15:04 GMT -5
If you are having to excuse your performance in wins over Columbia and Gardner-Webb, I have a hard time fathoming what you are going to do once the Big Ten season hits. Nobody is excusing the Badger's performance against these two teams....both matches were unmitigated slaughters, and the Badgers didn't even play all their starters. Simpson set neither game. I believe the discussion here refers to the general low level of opposition these two teams offered Wisconsin, college boy. Please pay attention.... |
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Post by OverAndUnder on Sept 11, 2007 12:46:47 GMT -5
And what's your excuse for slamming Minnesota? They did beat San Diego. I'm not slamming Minnesota. I just think they are a bit overranked at 13. However, I'm okay with Minnesota at 13 but Wisconsin at 9 is definitely a stretch . Who gets placed above Minnesota? That's the problem. What they need to do is establish a standard deviation for the polling system. Then any differences inside that s.d. get listed as a tie. So the rankings of the top 25 might decrease down to only about 15 places, with some of those places being "6-way tie for 12th". |
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