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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 21, 2007 21:54:47 GMT -5
bucky said the Badgers had to fall. If they have to fall, the same should be true for UCLA (especially since they are so over-rated to begin with). Ah. Missed that comment by Bucky. I don't believe it though. I think that USC's loss to Washington will benefit Wisconsin. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 21, 2007 21:57:53 GMT -5
Wow! I just checked my votes. This weekend's "upsets" had no effect on my top 11 teams. Despite the outcomes, I had no changes. The teams that were losers lost to teams above them.
I'm so good.
Now that next 20-30... well, all I have to say is "damnit Minnesota, you're making this hard on me!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2007 22:04:34 GMT -5
Don't blame it all on Minnesota. There were a bunch of others who will make it tough.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 21, 2007 22:10:30 GMT -5
Don't blame it all on Minnesota. There were a bunch of others who will make it tough. Well, I suppose they are making it hard on me because they are better than they are performing. I still am not sold on the WCC. San Diego should not be as high as they are. I was a huge fan of Middle tennessee, but they lost to the hilltoppers.  The Big 12 is always mixed up. I'm pretty happy with my last vote... with exception of Minnesota, it seems pretty solid and my adjustments were minor. |
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 22, 2007 4:41:22 GMT -5
It seems to be my role in these discussions to quote the AVCA's summary of the week's matches:
CSTV/AVCA Top 25 Matchups
#1 Nebraska def. #11 Hawai'i 3-0
#2 Penn State def. #8 Wisconsin 3-2
#4 Southern California lost to #5 Washington 0-3
#5 Washington def. #7 UCLA 3-0
#5 Washington def. #4 Southern California 3-0
#6 Texas def. #23 Oklahoma 3-0
#7 UCLA lost to #5 Washington 0-3
#8 Wisconsin lost to #2 Penn State 2-3
#11 Hawai'i lost to #1 Nebraska 0-3
#14 Kansas State lost to #23 Oklahoma 1-3
#23 Oklahoma lost to #6 Texas 0-3
#23 Oklahoma def. #14 Kansas State 3-1
CSTV/AVCA Top 25 Unranked Losses
#12 Dayton lost to Xavier 1-3
#13 Minnesota lost to Northwestern 2-3
#13 Minnesota lost to Michigan State 0-3
#15 Michigan lost to Purdue 1-3
As logical as it may be to move Wisconsin up, it ain't going to happen. A summary like that doesn't offer a reason to move them. Same with moving UCLA down.
Dayton on the other hand is going to drop big timetm. It's analogous to Florida: they had no real quality wins to support their rank, and they've been dominating an otherwise weak conference. They were still getting respect because their record hadn't given voters a reason not to. Now the voters have that reason, and Dayton could drop five positions or more.
It's going to be interesting to see who the new number 12 is, though. All the best candidates to replace Dayton had "bad" losses.
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Post by bomber on Oct 22, 2007 8:47:11 GMT -5
Wisconsin is every bit as good, if not better than UCLA, USC. Yes, and no. They still have that pesky loss to BYU, which they should be punished for, to a point. What is the worst loss that USC and UCLA have? . Best wins for all of the above? See, it's hard to say based on results. Didn't UCLA lose to Oregon State.....at home? I'd say that is a horrendous loss, far worse than the two losses the Badger's have at present, who lost to a ranked BYU in 5 games in Utah as well as Penn State in five. |
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Post by marsupialtoast on Oct 22, 2007 9:59:07 GMT -5
I was at the Dayton at Xavier match, and that match was downright awful. Dayton didn't show up to play, and lost each of the 3 games in convincing fashion. If it weren't for all the teams below them losing, I would think they had to have dropped out of the polls. Now I'm looking at them to sit somewhere around 19 or 20.
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Post by wsufan on Oct 22, 2007 11:51:51 GMT -5
I have no predictions but I am curious to see if a #16 Pablo Ranking, 5 straight sweeps, twelve wins in a row with a game record of 36-1 in those matches and only one "bad loss" (losses to Kansas State (Aug 25). Cal Poly (Aug 26), Hawaii (Sep 07) and Northern Iowa (Sep 15)) will have much impact on the AVCA voting.
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Post by tacotico on Oct 22, 2007 11:53:47 GMT -5
The Pablo ratings mean nothing. The RPI - or the RKPI - is the poll that will influence the NCAA Committee's selections and seeding.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 22, 2007 11:56:55 GMT -5
The Pablo ratings mean nothing. The RPI - or the RKPI - is the poll that will influence the NCAA Committee's selections and seeding. Which is a shame, because A) The RPI can be manipulated by coaches, B) does not give a true representation of a team's strength, and C) and is obviously just a poor mechanism to trim the field for less-than-educated administrators. For that matter, if we're talking about meaningless ratings: the AVCA also has no impact. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 22, 2007 11:58:05 GMT -5
Didn't UCLA lose to Oregon State.....at home? I'd say that is a horrendous loss, far worse than the two losses the Badger's have at present, who lost to a ranked BYU in 5 games in Utah as well as Penn State in five. Yeah, I kind of forgot about that OSU loss. However, UCLA also lost in 5 with their star setter injured.... so take it how you will. |
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 22, 2007 12:22:02 GMT -5
Holy cow!!! All these upsets and weird, strange, unexpected outcomes are really going to mix up the poll!!!
I don't think they are really upsets. I think the AVCA poll is too influenced by agendas and is wrong.
I only had three upsets in my votes last week, and none of the top 11 teams were in those.
The AVCA poll is getting to be too political. Why else do you get some of these teams ranked so high/low? |
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