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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 7, 2004 16:34:48 GMT -5
Oh, no BIK, you shouldn't have... I actually think mental abuse is worse than physical abuse. The scar is deeper. Oh I agree. That is especially true for those in Iraq and other areas of the Arab world. Just correcting Gorf. Again, I'm not condoning the actions of those who perpetrated these incidents ( Fwiw, I found the pictures to be very untasteful and disturbing.) Punish those responsible but lay the blame where it lies, with them. I'm sick of the Democratic party trying to use such an unfortunate situation to better their position for the White House.
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Post by vierra on May 7, 2004 16:36:47 GMT -5
BIK: "Confucius says, "A constipated man does not give a crap."
LOL!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 7, 2004 16:39:26 GMT -5
BIK: "Confucius says, "A constipated man does not give a crap." LOL! Confucius also say "Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok."
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Post by vierra on May 7, 2004 16:42:12 GMT -5
Confucius also say "Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok." LOL! These are better than Polish jokes! But honestly, we will rip the Republicans!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 7, 2004 16:51:12 GMT -5
LOL! These are better than Polish jokes! But honestly, we will rip the Republicans! I thought you were a Republican? Confucius say "Woman who make love in treehouse put ass out on limb."
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Post by vierra on May 7, 2004 17:08:09 GMT -5
I thought you were a Republican? No way, man. I voted for Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, and this fall, probably Kerry. Sorry, dude.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 7, 2004 17:09:54 GMT -5
No way, man. I voted for Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, and this fall, probably Kerry. Sorry, dude. No more Confucius jokes for you.
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Post by Jack on May 7, 2004 19:16:09 GMT -5
That's like saying Newsmax is hardly a Conservative rag. The Economist Magazine has endorsed every GOP presidential nominee for the last half century. Yet you believe it is as liberal as Newsmax is conservative? Does your license plate say 'crackpot on board?'
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 7, 2004 21:07:05 GMT -5
Does your license plate say 'crackpot on board?' No but you can send me yours if you feel I need it.
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Post by Jack on May 7, 2004 22:00:31 GMT -5
No but you can send me yours if you feel I need it. Don't know if you're a crackpot. But you're definitely cracked.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 8, 2004 0:20:04 GMT -5
Don't know if you're a crackpot. But you're definitely cracked. Well yeah, my ass is but so's yours. Go Bush!
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Post by Gorf on May 8, 2004 11:28:12 GMT -5
Why certainly, go Bush! Please take Cheney and the rest of the Bushy Brigade with you on your way out the door to take that much needed rest back on your cowboy farm for the next several years and beyond. BiK: FWIW - If you truly weren't making a jest with your earlier comment and I have no reason to believe otherwise since you stated you were not in response to my comment. I apologize for my comment. I was suprised that you would make a joke of that nature and am glad that it was not your intent.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 8, 2004 13:29:56 GMT -5
>-(Gorf)-<[} link=board=news&thread=1083834849&start=26#1 date=1084033692] BiK: FWIW - If you truly weren't making a jest with your earlier comment and I have no reason to believe otherwise since you stated you were not in response to my comment. I apologize for my comment. I was suprised that you would make a joke of that nature and am glad that it was not your intent. No apology is necessary Gorf. You would not have come to that conclusion if I had been less of an ass to begin with. I do jest a lot, It's my own fault when my posts are misconstrued but thank you anyway.
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Post by vierra on May 8, 2004 15:48:50 GMT -5
Arguments along the lines of "I was following orders" do not fly when morality is at play.
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Post by Gorf on May 8, 2004 16:50:56 GMT -5
Arguments along the lines of "I was following orders" do not fly when morality is at play. I agree, however, I'd like the process of discovering to find those that did indeed foster such treatment of the prisoners. That the soldiers who were directly handling the prisoners in such a manner is bad enough, but I find it to be worse if their superior officers gave the orders for the prisoners to be treated in that way. The Red Cross claims they were reporting the mistreatment of prisoners in Iraq to US military authorities for a number of months before Rumsfeld's claims of having learned about it in January. Rumsfeld's referring to the January 16th reporting of the incidents appears to be misleading as well because that report clearly stated that even though it stated that the reports of harsh treatment of prisoners was credible it stated that all treatment of prisoners was within the bounds of the Geneva convention. Which has since been clearly shown not to be the case. If Rumsfeld knew about the level of abuse that was actually happening and tried to cover it up in the earlier reports that he cited in his defense and especially didn't even bother to mention it to the president then he ought to resign. If he truly didn't know the level of abuse that was happening then I don't have a problem with him staying in office.
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