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Post by Durian on Feb 11, 2009 19:12:13 GMT -5
Looks like Ohio state is goin big this year. goin to far westerns, i assume they are going to hoosier next weekend as well. should be a good toury. pools look tough
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Post by fresnovb on Feb 11, 2009 22:17:48 GMT -5
I've got a question. I might be a little bias, but with all this hype about midwest teams being great (which they are) people have overlooked west coast teams. couldn't this be like any sports where there are trends. midwest is good for a period of time and then east takes over then the west. I think it's the west coast's turn to be the dominant area for club ball seeing as four of the top ten in the nation are from cali including Fresno State at number 3
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Post by osulibero9 on Feb 11, 2009 22:48:32 GMT -5
Looks like it will be a good year for volleyball then, cause I don't think the midwest is ready to give up their title just quite yet...
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Post by bounce04 on Feb 11, 2009 23:13:25 GMT -5
I think that when it comes down to it that its all about who wins at nationals and recently it has been the Midwest, specifically WI teams (Marquette 05, Oshkosh 06,07, and Lakeland 08). But i do agree that this seems to run in trends. Previously it was the west coast ( correct me if I am wrong). Also this year, would not be surprised to see the west coast win it. Seems like there are several good teams playing well.
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Post by vbtrain on Feb 12, 2009 15:00:21 GMT -5
For those curious, I just got word that the new NCVF rankings will come out on/about Feb 15, thus a week before Indiana...hopefully this will help for seeding purposes...
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Post by jerkass on Feb 13, 2009 10:55:44 GMT -5
No one gives a !!!!###$$$!!! about west coast teams, those kids are just warm up hitters.
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Post by scmb19 on Feb 13, 2009 14:29:16 GMT -5
No one gives a !!!!###$$$!!! about west coast teams, those kids are just warm up hitters. Well... I thought the discussions were fairly civil till now. We'll let the play do the talking at Vegas. That is going to be a great tournament with lots of talented teams. And as far as east coast/ west coast / midwest and who is better, it doesn't matter till nationals and its always changing. Every team and region has spells of greatness. What I love about collegiate club volleyball is that the national title is anyones in any given year.
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Post by jerkass on Feb 13, 2009 15:51:32 GMT -5
Ya we'll see about that.
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Post by gobears on Feb 13, 2009 16:10:26 GMT -5
Having made 3 whole posts on VT, as you are obviously loaded with information, you play for whom?
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Post by onceabighitter on Feb 13, 2009 19:22:36 GMT -5
I've got a question. I might be a little bias, but with all this hype about midwest teams being great (which they are) people have overlooked west coast teams. couldn't this be like any sports where there are trends. midwest is good for a period of time and then east takes over then the west. I think it's the west coast's turn to be the dominant area for club ball seeing as four of the top ten in the nation are from cali including Fresno State at number 3 Its not a TREND...trust me. First let me say "Congrats" to the midwest for winning the last 4 CLUB titles. Its a 'great run', to be sure. And thereis no doubt that the midwest, and the rest of the country in general are playing better VB in the past years. But I would stop short of saying the Midwest is DOMINANT. C'mon...a quick glance of the 2008 Final Results shows that Ohio State was the only other Midwest based school, outside the two finalists, to finish in the Top 16. The state of California alone had 9 teams in the Top 16. So really, the entire MIDWEST has only 3 teams in the Top 16, and a single state has 9...thats dominance? Who is the ONLY defending National Champ to show up the follow year and NOT make the Gold Bracket? a Midwest team, Oshkosh. That tells me a particular group of players made that team great...not that its a great or dominant program. Look, with the exception of 1996 (Maryland), the West has won every other Club Title since this tourneys inception. Just like in NCAA DI ball, the west sets the standard. Let me tell you how much better the west coast teams would be if they could play their JC players. You think its a coincidence the Midwest wins came along when this ridiculous eligibility rule came into play? Why is a JC player a former Varsity Athlete? Thats a joke? The top SoCal JCteams wouldnt win Club Nationals, so why are these guys considered VARSITY ATHLETES??? Most the west coast schools have a number of guys walking around campus with no eligibility because the dumb rule that JC players were"VARSITY ATHLETES". West Coast teams have to pick the best 2 guys and the others can't play...its a joke! These guys would make the west coast teams that much better.
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Post by kettler427 on Feb 13, 2009 23:54:17 GMT -5
I think you're right that JC athletes shouldn't be considered varsity athletes. However, depending on the year the top socal JC teams can without a doubt play with the top club teams. It should be interesting to see how Orange Coast does (above average SoCal JC team) in far westerns.
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Post by Durian on Feb 14, 2009 3:43:54 GMT -5
I've got a question. I might be a little bias, but with all this hype about midwest teams being great (which they are) people have overlooked west coast teams. couldn't this be like any sports where there are trends. midwest is good for a period of time and then east takes over then the west. I think it's the west coast's turn to be the dominant area for club ball seeing as four of the top ten in the nation are from cali including Fresno State at number 3 Its not a TREND...trust me. First let me say "Congrats" to the midwest for winning the last 4 CLUB titles. Its a 'great run', to be sure. And thereis no doubt that the midwest, and the rest of the country in general are playing better VB in the past years. But I would stop short of saying the Midwest is DOMINANT. C'mon...a quick glance of the 2008 Final Results shows that Ohio State was the only other Midwest based school, outside the two finalists, to finish in the Top 16. The state of California alone had 9 teams in the Top 16. So really, the entire MIDWEST has only 3 teams in the Top 16, and a single state has 9...thats dominance? Who is the ONLY defending National Champ to show up the follow year and NOT make the Gold Bracket? a Midwest team, Oshkosh. That tells me a particular group of players made that team great...not that its a great or dominant program. Look, with the exception of 1996 (Maryland), the West has won every other Club Title since this tourneys inception. Just like in NCAA DI ball, the west sets the standard. Let me tell you how much better the west coast teams would be if they could play their JC players. You think its a coincidence the Midwest wins came along when this ridiculous eligibility rule came into play? Why is a JC player a former Varsity Athlete? Thats a joke? The top SoCal JCteams wouldnt win Club Nationals, so why are these guys considered VARSITY ATHLETES??? Most the west coast schools have a number of guys walking around campus with no eligibility because the dumb rule that JC players were"VARSITY ATHLETES". West Coast teams have to pick the best 2 guys and the others can't play...its a joke! These guys would make the west coast teams that much better. Who cares what side of the country wins. Just play volleyball.
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Post by jerkass on Feb 14, 2009 13:11:00 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by 5ftbouncer on Feb 14, 2009 16:20:00 GMT -5
Haven't heard anything about UCF? are they returning players... playing anywhere like Hoosier Illini or Vegas?
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Post by gobears on Feb 15, 2009 12:14:10 GMT -5
Some Far Western Results from Day 1. I left at 7pm and 3-4 matches still going on. 36 teams in two venues; am and pm waves; lots of teams. Gold Power Pools of 3 teams go at 8am and 11am Sunday and some different type of re seeding for Day 2 that I didn't take the time to figure out... will go thru 7pm or so tonite I imagine. Playoffs in final brackets starts 2pm or so? Ohio State guys were loving the weather 50-55 degrees...they were eating lunch outside in shorts and glad to be in Calif. The rest of us were moaning as rain was on and off and at times heavy yesterday and high wind, v heavy rain warnings overnite Sat and all day Sunday forecast and flooding ...snow in the foothills which means chillier for sure. Amgen bicycle tour with Lance also starts in Davis at noon Sunday so depending on things, some 30,000 more fans will be clogging the town..street closures, town party all day weather permitting...so all vb plyrs fans were going to arrive by 7:30am to get into the campus park lots first.... ncvfvolleyball.org/Documents/Far_Westerns_2009.pdf above link to full Far Westerns results
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