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Post by MarqVB11 on Feb 22, 2006 1:44:06 GMT -5
First, someone earlier suggested that MSU would still be ranked behind Illinois despite beating them at Big Tens...right. I think we know who has the most weight when it comes to Midwest rankings. I personally have no idea which team is better, so I have no judgement on that, other than I'm not surprised that MSU is higher than Illinois (not that it matters between #4 and #5). Second, 4 East Coast teams in the top 11 spots? I know things are becoming more even between the regions, but that's just nutty. Finally, Lakeland won't move down simply from Oshkosh beating them, no matter how easy it may be for Oshkosh to beat Lakeland. In region losses don't help sort out national rankings very much. If Lakeland doesn't play well at Hoosier-Illini, then it will weigh heavier on their ranking; if they keep winning, they validate where they currently are.
Everyone going to Bloomington, good luck...good showings there go a long way. Utah and Colorado coming east? I think that's a first for club vball (not including Nationals).
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Post by Lew8ftln on Feb 22, 2006 2:19:33 GMT -5
Yikes is right........where in the effing world did Maryland come from and what's happening with Marquette here fellas? Exactly right.....wtf has Maryland proved to obtain this ranking?  ? Anyone out there who's played this team please chime in and help us out cuz my scalp hurts from all the head scratching.....Now wherever they go they get prolly the highest seed at their tournament for an effing month, and have obviously not played against any big teams so far. So again====somebody out there has to have played them, and can give a clue as to how these guys are that good And thanks to the rankers for dropping Marquette like a bad habit in the poles...now they have something to prove at every tournament they go, which doesn't bode well for the rest of us.....I personally see a rematch of last years IU final in store this weekend |
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Post by star035 on Feb 22, 2006 9:24:40 GMT -5
Maryland is, historically, a very good team (round of sixteen at nationals last year, for example). I don't know how they have done this year.
Looking back at the results from this fall's big Hardwood Classic at MSU, I see that Penn State beat MSU before losing to Marquette in the gold semi's. James Madison lost to Illinois in the quarterfinals while Virginia Tech lost to Illinois in the other gold semi. They're not bad teams ...but as others note, we won't know how they really stack up in this spring season until nationals.
I'm surprised they didn't just wait on new rankings until after this weekend's big tournament at Indiana. I'll take Oshkosh over Colorado in the final; Illinois and MSU in third.
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Post by volleyindian on Feb 22, 2006 11:57:42 GMT -5
Maryland is a very good team and they deserve a top 10 ranking from what I have seen so far. They have a solid team with two outside hitters that play at a high level. But I will admit I am very skeptical of how exactly they jumped 11 spots in the rankings. They dont usually play in any big tournaments before nationals and over the last weekend they lost in the semis of their own tournament.
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Post by mumvb on Feb 23, 2006 0:59:33 GMT -5
Here goes:
1. UWO - Definitely the #1 at this point... Moved from #2. Probably the only ranking that I agree with.
2. Maryland - Come on now... But then again, who would know out here in the midwest? Even still, they should have had to do a lot more to make a jump from #13 to #2.
3. Lakeland - Their record shows a #3 at this point (up from #4), but I don't see it, nor do I see it lasting.
4. Michigan State - They may have taken out U of I, so yeah, I guess they deserve to be above them (moved from #9). But we all should know by now...
5. Illinois - NEVER does well before nationals (dropped from #3). They have more problems than you can count until the end of the season comes along. Then they'll come out of nowhere and finish 3rd yet again. In the end their rank really doesn't matter, because we all know what to expect.
6. Marquette - Poor Marquette. Haha. Oh well. I'm sure anyone on UWO will tell you that MU is much better than a #6, though they did have to drop out of that #1 spot. Lately the big 6'10" outside has been playing right side, and the new right side is in his outside spot. Though they both might hit better in their new spots, it probably just takes away 50% of the big man's sets. Not such a great plan probably (considering he'd have about half of the teams kills along with the other outside).
7. Virginia Tech - Dropped a spot (from #6)... not sure why. They're usually around for the Hoosier Illini, so we'll see I guess.
8. Penn State - Stayed right at #8. From what I hear, they lost EVERYONE, and for a lack of a better term, "suck." Maybe this is why Maryland, Penn St. and VT are all around... NO EAST COAST COMPETITION!!!
9. Arizona - Up one spot from #10. I think it's safe to say that Arizona is gonna be solid again. Really, when are they not?
10. Santa Clara - Moves up from #18. I'm not surprised. If they kept that one server from last year, he'll put up 25 straight against any club passer. The rest of the team really only could have gotten better.
Other significant moves:
Colorado drops from #5 to #12
Arizona State drops from #7 to Honorable Mention... (ouch)
UC-Berkely drops from #11 to #24
Cal Poly drops from #12 to #19
Illinois State drops from #16 to Honorable Mention
#17 Dayton, #19 Wisconsin both dropped right off the map.
As said before, the only big jumps were Maryland (meh...) and Santa Clara.
So as one might guess. The first rankings were waaaay off... and I can expect nothing less from the second installment. Good luck to all at the Hoosier Illini, and well have to wait and see what happens to the numbers when they come out a third time.
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Post by mikesmith on Feb 23, 2006 3:24:05 GMT -5
Where is the Club championship this year?
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Post by muoh61010 on Feb 23, 2006 9:40:49 GMT -5
Salt Lake City
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Post by star035 on Feb 23, 2006 11:01:52 GMT -5
Per their website, the Colorado senior, 6'5" setter has a broken finger and is out for a few weeks. That will probably affect their performance this weekend. Hopefully he is back for nationals.
So I'll revise my prediction and say Oshkosh over Illinois, with MSU and Va Tech third.
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Post by mikesmith on Feb 23, 2006 11:47:30 GMT -5
Any ex-division one players playing for these club teams? If so, how are they doing?
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Post by Lew8ftln on Feb 23, 2006 13:47:55 GMT -5
So I'll revise my prediction and say Oshkosh over Illinois, with MSU and Va Tech third. Va Teck will not beat Lakeland. Even if #3 is not where they should be ranked, MSU MIGHT beat Marquette, but I would say we could have a repeat of last years final four at IU this weekend... |
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Post by vbgymrat on Feb 23, 2006 14:25:49 GMT -5
Any ex-division one players playing for these club teams? If so, how are they doing? Gawlik and Larsen two ex-Pacific players are playing for MSU as grad students, and are more or less the back-bone for that team. They have experience and know that vlooeyball is a game of runs. Gawlik knows the game inside and out, and Larsen is just intense. They are not the two greatest players out there but they will be the most consistent players on the court everytime. More than likely they'll be 1st team Big Ten hands down. They don't let the little things rattle them, and our team as well as every other team they've played has learned not to jaw back and forth with them cause they'll step their games up a little more. On a side note I heard (might be a rumor) Larsen sprained his ankle and won't be at the Hoosier/Illini might have a different final four now. |
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Post by beatyoudown on Feb 23, 2006 14:27:53 GMT -5
What other teams are going to be at IU this weekend? Any teams capable of upseting some of the top dogs if they play their hearts out?
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Post by misnca on Feb 23, 2006 15:03:38 GMT -5
Any ex-division one players playing for these club teams? If so, how are they doing? Gawlik and Larsen two ex-Pacific players are playing for MSU as grad students, and are more or less the back-bone for that team. They have experience and know that vlooeyball is a game of runs. Gawlik knows the game inside and out, and Larsen is just intense. They are not the two greatest players out there but they will be the most consistent players on the court everytime. More than likely they'll be 1st team Big Ten hands down. They don't let the little things rattle them, and our team as well as every other team they've played has learned not to jaw back and forth with them cause they'll step their games up a little more. On a side note I heard (might be a rumor) Larsen sprained his ankle and won't be at the Hoosier/Illini might have a different final four now. I've seen Michigan State play. They play with tenacity but I beg to differ that Gawlik and Larsen are the "backbone" of the team. From what I saw of Larsen, the ball has to be absolutely perfect for him to hit the ball with any mustard. Question is: Did he even letter at Pacific? I don't remember seeing him on the travel squad when they came to southern CA. |
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Post by money on Feb 23, 2006 15:09:47 GMT -5
Any ex-division one players playing for these club teams? If so, how are they doing? Gawlik and Larsen two ex-Pacific players are playing for MSU as grad students, and are more or less the back-bone for that team. They have experience and know that vlooeyball is a game of runs. Gawlik knows the game inside and out, and Larsen is just intense. They are not the two greatest players out there but they will be the most consistent players on the court everytime. More than likely they'll be 1st team Big Ten hands down. They don't let the little things rattle them, and our team as well as every other team they've played has learned not to jaw back and forth with them cause they'll step their games up a little more. On a side note I heard (might be a rumor) Larsen sprained his ankle and won't be at the Hoosier/Illini might have a different final four now. Anyone that has seen MSU play the last few years KNOWS that Gawlik and Larsen are NOT the backbone. This team won the Big 10 tournament last year WITHOUT them and would have been JUST FINE without this season. Considering them both ex-division 1 players is a stretch as well. I just looked up their stats at Pacific and notice that in his senior season, Larsen played in 4 games... with 3 TOTAL kills for the season... was this guy hurt ALL SEASON? Also, Gawlik wasn't even an attacker... he was a LIBERO... MSU has him swinging on the left side! Considering either one of them First team all big 10 is a joke. If there was a warm-up all american list, Larsen would be POY, but other than that, he's arrogant and very conceited during each of his 1.5 kills per game. according to vbgymrat, his back should be hurt from carrying the Spartans all year long... I didn't even notice him at the Big Ten play day... And Gawlik didn't put a ball to the floor all tournament, he just tools and tools and tools... also conceited. Whether Larsen plays or not, MSU will be just fine this weekend. Look for Oshkosh and Marquette to dominate this weekend AGAIN to retain #1/#2 in the next rankings. |
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Post by mumvb on Feb 23, 2006 22:29:53 GMT -5
Look for Oshkosh and Marquette to dominate this weekend AGAIN to retain #1/#2 in the next rankings. #6 MU and #3 Lakeland faced off today in WVC play. I hope to find out the final for that match soon. EDIT: #6 Marquette pwns in 3 straight. I'm sure Tom will post scores. |
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? Anyone out there who's played this team please chime in and help us out cuz my scalp hurts from all the head scratching.....Now wherever they go they get prolly the highest seed at their tournament for an effing month, and have obviously not played against any big teams so far.
