Carthage 3, Lewis 1

[sponge13]

GAME SCORES 1 2 3 4 TEAM RECORDS
Carthage College.... (3) 23 30 36 30 7-8
Lewis............... (1) 30 25 34 23 5-8

[vb]

OMG. How far the mighty has fallen.

Lewis and Hawaii both had program flaws that are now corrected. Hawaii never got this bad. Is it time for a coaching change at Lewis? (Dave...where are you?)

[Deleted]

Dave Deuser??? He's probably secretly calling the shots from the bleachers. But if you take a look at Lewis' roster, there are 16 freshman and 3 upperclassmen (1 of which is redshirting). Thier entire starting lineup is comprised of freshman. I think they have a starting outside under 6 feet by the name of Pickering who isn't all that bad but the team is still relatively inexperienced.

[vb]

Chicagoland is a hotbed for VB players. Most rated teams have a couple. How could Lewis not even stumble into a few good players. Lewis, fighting the same problems as Hawaii, should not have sunken so low. Hawaii didn't.

[mivamiva2]

Don't see how you can compare Hawaii to Lewis beyond the fact that they both have had championships vacated. Other than that there is no comparison. Romeoville vs. Honolulu! Wonder if that makes a difference IDIOT! What selling point does Lewis have? We have an airport!? VB, no kidding that after you stop cheating you will no longer get top tier talent because the beneifts of just Lewis don't add up. Now do I have to mention the benefits of playing for Hawaii? Not even you are that big of an idiot so I won't waste my time. Get a clue dude.

[Deleted]

I used to live in Romeoville. Yet I hate Lewis. But with that freshman talent of Pickering and Vidovic, they'll be good in a couple of years.

[mumvb]

Vidovic...? Gimme a break...

[UcantBSme]

Don't get me started people! I know several former players from Lewis personally. Yes, I agree that recruiting to Hawaii, and Romeoville are two different things, but answer me this. How did Deuser get Stuntz, Elsea, Solar, Miller, Escalante, Bergmann, Dayton, Rivera, Quinones, Denis, Aviles, Alifonso, Getz, Zambo, and the list goes on and on. I didn't even mention any of the foreign players for obvious reasons, but there are 4 Californians in that group, one from South Florida, 2 from St. Louis, several from Puerto Rico, Wisconsin. How did Deuser get those players? He sold Lewis and Chicago to them from what I understand. He sold a small school atmosphere, the Chicago metro area, which I have spent some time in and was pretty darn impressed with, he sold a tough schedule to recruits, because Lewis always had the toughest schedule of all the MIVA teams when he was there. From what his former players say, they wanted to go play for him regardless of the town of Romeoville. Lets not even get into the whole foreign athlete debate. Deuser brought in some very talented U.S players from all over the country and always put together a very tough team that never would have lost to a Carthage. Deuser new how to recruit, he knew how to spot talent that may have been overlooked by other programs, he knew how to put his team together and get the most out of them. Lewis was still pretty successful last season because all of Deuser's players were still there, but now the program is completely a reflection of the new coaching staff, and this is what you get. I never had a chance to play for Deuser, and you can say whatever you want about his foreign recruiting philosophy, and you can debate the eligibility of the 2 guys that were in question in 03, but I really wish my college coach was as committed to our program as Deuser was to his. Obviously the new Lewis coaching staff doesn't know how to recruit or sell Lewis or themselves to any top players, and they signed a lot of new players, but not a lot of great talent. Lets see if they find a way to develop their guys and inspire them to win. This result against Carthage is pretty pathetic.

[pepperdoody]

It adds nothing to the debate . We all new Lewis was horrible this year . That said WOW BS , give them a break ,I checked box scores and they are playing an all freshman team . Even Scates , Dunphy , or Preston couldn't win with that team ( Preston can't win anyway ) (27 years by the way ) time for a change there too !!! but I digress . It will be interesting to see if they can mature together , maybe get a couple of 2 year transfers , but wait and see maybe total rebuilding is on track for them.

[BeachBoy]

Not to mention the new coach is still dealing with the bagage of NCAA postseason ban left behind by the great Dan Deuser.

[eiva]

If the great Coach Deuser would have had BYUs compliance director, the program would still be intact and winning. That's all it takes in todays game...a coach that can recruit, and a great Compliance Dude.

[CityTechLegend]

The head coach for Lewis now is Dan Friend.
UcantBSme is right however. Though Coach Friend is a good guy, and believe it or not he is a good recruiter, I have talked with him over the phone and via email before, yet his recruiting has to improve. The problem comes from the top, however, when it comes to the recruiting. Friend, He has to walk on eggshells right now until he gets a solid footing. After what happened with Deuser, he can't just go out and GET kids. He has to be careful. Remember the NCAA keeps an eye on programs after they have commited violations.
And yeah, a freshman class a couple of transfers, and a new coach is a reciepe for struggle. They will get better, hopefully. If not then maybe a coachig change would be the best thing. But not just yet. Its only been two or three years sinse Dave has left, give the new guy a chance.
Yes, Dave was one of the most commited coaches any one have ever been around, from what I hear. It would make sense players would want to play for him. Most coaches wish they had his touch. Only time will tell if Lewis will ever get back to the glory Deuser brought to the program AND the school.

[CityTechLegend]

pepperdoody said:

It adds nothing to the debate . We all new Lewis was horrible this year . That said WOW BS , give them a break ,I checked box scores and they are playing an all freshman team . Even Scates , Dunphy , or Preston couldn't win with that team ( Preston can't win anyway ) (27 years by the way ) time for a change there too !!! but I digress . It will be interesting to see if they can mature together , maybe get a couple of 2 year transfers , but wait and see maybe total rebuilding is on track for them.

That's funny Preston can't win anyway. Did he slight in some way pepp? I hear anger in that comment. Not hatred just anger.

[pepperdoody]

I actually like the man, I just haven't seen him win during my stint at volleyball . How come Al Scates and Marv Dunphy can get people ( legally ) and so many others tend to push the limits . Lewis had a great run , Hawaii has come back ,what is Lewis' excuse ,and if it comes down from the top then that is too bad . The coach should have thought about that before he took the job.

[VBbeast]

Man some serious ignorance on display here.

First of all Lewis is in the state it is in now because of actions of the previous administration and head coach. It makes me ill to hear people deifying the individual responsible. Dueser's Legacy at Lewis adds up to NCAA sanctions and disgrace. He might be a good volleyball coach, but he certainly is not a good NCAA volleyball coach. Coaching in the NCAA requires following some rules which he clearly was not able to do.

Second, how is it that people are already on Dan's case about recruiting when he is only in his second season, and has had his hands tied from the time he got there because of NCAA sanctions? If they are still struggling 2 years from now then start talking about Coach Friend and his recruiting.

Yes losing to Carthage is a bad loss for Lewis. Then again when you are starting 6 freshmen you should probably expect some bad losses.