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Post by UcantBSme on Mar 8, 2006 13:14:10 GMT -5
One of the biggest things that bugged me about the Ball State situation a few weeks ago was that their coach, Walton, was making such a big deal about their win over Loyola and talking about how Loyola had the "#1 offense in the country". In my opinion this was a way to cover the fact that their schedule was so weak and make it look like they actually got a win over a top team. At that time I pointed out that, while Loyola's team hitting % may have been #1 in the country, that it was a JOKE because of the competition they had played up to that point. I even stated at that time, "lets see how their hitting % holds up when they come out West". Well, in Loyola's 2 matches out West so far, they are hitting .285%. That is almost .100% lower than they were averaging when Ball State beat them, and they were 10-0 having played virtually NOBODY. At .285% they wouldn't even be in the top 10 in the country in team hitting %. This proves the point that I was making about Walton playing up that win and acting as if it was a big deal that they had stopped the "#1 hitting team in the country". While that may have been accurate to the letter of the law, IT WAS A JOKE TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN. I'm sorry that I feel the need to keep people REAL, and point this stuff out, but, I DO!
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Post by mikesmith on Mar 8, 2006 13:20:03 GMT -5
It's official. You were right.
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Post by UcantBSme on Mar 8, 2006 16:21:10 GMT -5
Thank you Mr. Smith. It warms my heart to hear you say that. ;D
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Post by pepperdoody on Mar 8, 2006 16:23:26 GMT -5
YOU GOT CUT HUH !!! I'M SORRY WALTON HURT YOU SOOOOOOOOOO BAD .
NOW LET IT GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by UcantBSme on Mar 8, 2006 17:10:22 GMT -5
HA HA HA. SO NOW I'm a former BSU student that got cut by Walton!!! That is about the 8th or 9th person I have been accused of being. Nice try, but "NO SOUP FOR YOU"!!!  |
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Post by pepperdoody on Mar 8, 2006 17:35:51 GMT -5
I DON'T LIKE SOUP !!
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Post by volleydog on Mar 8, 2006 18:07:32 GMT -5
"NO SOUP FOR YOU"!!! you forgot... "NOW GET OUT!" ;D |
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Post by silversurfer on Mar 8, 2006 23:09:56 GMT -5
One of the biggest things that bugged me about the Ball State situation a few weeks ago was that their coach, Walton, was making such a big deal about their win over Loyola and talking about how Loyola had the "#1 offense in the country". In my opinion this was a way to cover the fact that their schedule was so weak and make it look like they actually got a win over a top team. At that time I pointed out that, while Loyola's team hitting % may have been #1 in the country, that it was a JOKE because of the competition they had played up to that point. I even stated at that time, "lets see how their hitting % holds up when they come out West". Well, in Loyola's 2 matches out West so far, they are hitting .285%. That is almost .100% lower than they were averaging when Ball State beat them, and they were 10-0 having played virtually NOBODY. At .285% they wouldn't even be in the top 10 in the country in team hitting %. This proves the point that I was making about Walton playing up that win and acting as if it was a big deal that they had stopped the "#1 hitting team in the country". While that may have been accurate to the letter of the law, IT WAS A JOKE TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN. I'm sorry that I feel the need to keep people REAL, and point this stuff out, but, I DO! Again, Flipper, beating a dead horse is not equivalent to "keeping it real." And, once again, "keeping it real" is not what you're doing. You are not a "gangsta," so drop the lingo. You're simply getting your panties in a wad over the way Walton characterized Loyola's offense. Coaches do this kind of stuff allll the time. |
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Post by cardalum on Mar 8, 2006 23:35:32 GMT -5
U, not sure what the beef with Walton is. They beat Loyola, last year's conference champion. They statistcally were #1 in offense early in the season, doesn't matter who Loyola had played. Coaches see video, and based on that and stats, make an assessment. if you were a coach, and had one video tape of them (playing your described nobodies) and a stat sheet shwoing hitting %'s, would you not garner they were a very good team??
What did you want him to say, "Loyola statistcally had the #1 offense in the country, but they really haven't played anyone good and we just beat them so I guess they weren't that good?" That would be kind of weird. I know part of your point is JW making what you think is bigger deal of that win than it was, but first off, a win is a win, whether it's MSOE or UCLA. Loyola wasn't any of the teams they had beaten and was in fact better than any of the teams they had played. So they had just beaten their best opponent (other than a banged up PSU team) to date. Why wouldn't this be big win for them? It's big win for them and probably some other teams, just not to you.
The comment of it was a joke to anyone with a brain is simply ludicrous and again, spiteful for no reason. No one made a big deal out of this but you, which does stand to reason some people thinking you would have an axe to grind. I will not intimate you were cut at BSU. You don't seem like a midwest/east coast person and most west coast players would rather play club at a west coast than varsity in the midwest/east coast.
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Post by UcantBSme on Mar 9, 2006 9:48:31 GMT -5
"Cardalum" no, i would not "garner Loyola is a very good team". Maybe for this years MIVA level of play they are a "very good team", but overall, pretty average. My beef with Walton is the crappy, pansy a_ _ schedule he put together, and my beef at the time of my original post about Ball State was the respect that BSU was getting in the polls, #8, IN SPITE of the pansy A_ _ schedule. Those have been my "beefs" from the start. You can't put together that week schedule, PLAY NOBODY THAT IS A LEGIT TOP 10 TEAM, have a great record of 10-0, because you have played nobody in the top 10, and then get ranked #8. IT JUST SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IF ANY OF THE COACHES ON THE POLL HAVE ANY BRAINS AT ALL! THAT IS MY "BEEF". Now BSU is down at #15 where they belong. And the point of this thread, was not to relive the BSU situation, it was to point out that WHO YOU PLAY HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HOW HIGH YOUR HITTING% IS. So looking at the National stats in some cases is a complete waste of time. It's not apples to apples, just as looking at USC's record and say Penn State's record isn't apples to apples either. USC has to play a schedule that is about 50 times more difficult than Penn State, so it stands to reason they will have more losses, and because they have more losses, the morons on the poll vote them #14, and Penn State #8, and we all know what happened last night, DON'T WE?
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Post by pepperdoody on Mar 9, 2006 13:44:09 GMT -5
RIGHT ON MR BS !!!!!! I TOTALLY AGREE . But it did seem you had an axe to grind with Mr . Walton . But you point is well taken about their schedule .
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Post by mikesmith on Mar 9, 2006 14:09:47 GMT -5
Again, I understand, and understood your point from the beginning. You were and are right. I think that people are having a problem with how direct you are being.
I have no problem with it.
For someone who is a fan of a team outside the MPSF, it's harsh. Anyway, good points and good posts. They make sense, and you have been arguing the same point since the beginning thread.
No matter how un-popular, I respect people who keep the same stance no matter how much flack they get.
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Post by cardalum on Mar 9, 2006 20:47:45 GMT -5
BS, before you blame Walton for the schedule, realize what the program has to work with for a budget. I do happen to know and it's disgusting what the school gives them and expects them to compete. If the money was there for a few trips out west, I know for a fact they'd go. Another poster stated Loyola's coach had the, um, "intestinal fortitude" to go out and play several MPSF teams. Hey, I applaud that too, I hope they do well and think it will help them out down the line. But, the poster also brought up the point that someone needed to have come up with the money for those trips, be it the school a donor, whomever. Not sure if you know what team travel entails, but let's just say that even a three day trip out west would cost quite a few happy meals let alone going for a week and trying to get in three matches.
My question to you is this, and I am not defending the schedule, I simply would like to know, if you were a coach in the midwest and did not have the funds available to travel to the west coast and your choice was to not play any matches at all, just practice and play a handful of non conference matches and only play MIVA teams OR you could play a lot of weaker teams but at least get the team some match experience, what would your choice be?
I am not disagreeing with your point of them having a weak schedule, it is and it has hurt them when playing tougher teams. I already stated that. And I'm not saying shed a tear for them either. I just think if you took a better look at the circumstances of that schedule, it's less a case of trying to pad the win column against bad teams, which everyone knows won't help anyone in the MIVA, EIVA or MPSF, and more a case of working with what's available.
Besides, in Men's VB where it only matters if you win your conference tourney, who cares how many wins they get and who gets ranked where? A team could go 0 for the season and win three matches in the conference tournament and make the Final Four.
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Post by golddigger on Mar 9, 2006 21:57:38 GMT -5
So what number on Ball State are you? Or, what assistant coach are you? Or, Coach Walton? Joel?
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Post by cardalum on Mar 9, 2006 22:29:55 GMT -5
Funny. Played there many years ago. Just a proud alum that keeps tabs on the youngins and wants to make sure the proud legacy carries on.
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