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Post by CityTechLegend on Apr 24, 2006 10:54:32 GMT -5
#1 Seed: UC Irvine ( Anteaters lose to Beach, but recieve at large bid and #1 seed #2 Seed: UCLA ( As usual, Al has his boys peaking for the Big Dance) #3 Seed: George Mason (A story book year for George Mason University) #4 Seed: Ball State (Sweep at Ohio State has Cards flying high) OK then that means that, by your logic, UCI, the loser of the MPSF gets the #1 Seed even though they didn't win it and LBSU isn't in it at all even though they won. Did you know that the MPSF TOURNEY CHAMP (LBSU by what you say here) gets the Automatic bid to the Court Four (trying a new moniker). So how does UCLA get in? Or did you mean that UCLA won it all by beating Pepperdine (true it's hard to beat a team four times in one year). Just a question. My Court Four is simple....(only if UCI wins outright) MPSF--UCI MIVA--Loyola EIVA--PSU At-L---UH
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Post by govolley20 on Apr 24, 2006 12:16:01 GMT -5
#1 Seed: UC Irvine ( Anteaters lose to Beach, but recieve at large bid and #1 seed #2 Seed: UCLA ( As usual, Al has his boys peaking for the Big Dance) #3 Seed: George Mason (A story book year for George Mason University) #4 Seed: Ball State (Sweep at Ohio State has Cards flying high) OK then that means that, by your logic, UCI, the loser of the MPSF gets the #1 Seed even though they didn't win it and LBSU isn't in it at all even though they won. Did you know that the MPSF TOURNEY CHAMP (LBSU by what you say here) gets the Automatic bid to the Court Four (trying a new moniker). So how does UCLA get in? Or did you mean that UCLA won it all by beating Pepperdine (true it's hard to beat a team four times in one year). Just a question. My Court Four is simple....(only if UCI wins outright) MPSF--UCI MIVA--Loyola EIVA--PSU At-L---UH for UCLA to get in, they HAVE to beat both Pepp & winner of UCI/LBSU.
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Post by VBaller23 on Apr 24, 2006 13:17:34 GMT -5
Anybody but Hawaii has to win it all to get to the final four... bottom line. Hawaii should get the at large bid according to the criteria if UCI wins it all. Pretty much the same situation as last year with UCLA getting it over LB. Does this mean that last years UCLA team or this years UH team deserve the at large bid if the #1 seed wins out... I personally don't think either one of them does but thats how the criteria is worded and if anything needs to be changed its the criteria.
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Post by Bearkitten on Apr 24, 2006 13:36:09 GMT -5
UCLA defeats Pepperdine and Long Beach to recieve automatic bid. UCI loses to Beach and recieves #1 seed and at large bid. Ball State defeats Loyola for MIVA title and George Mason defeats Penn State in five game thriller.
NCAA Championship Matchups
Match 1: UC Irvine vs. Ball State Match 2: UCLA vs. George Mason
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Post by Charlie on Apr 24, 2006 14:35:37 GMT -5
Does this mean that last years UCLA team or this years UH team deserve the at large bid if the #1 seed wins out... I personally don't think either one of them does but thats how the criteria is worded and if anything needs to be changed its the criteria. This was kinda beat to death last year. The criteria looks pretty reasonable to me. Record, head-to-head, road record. What do you think the criteria should be? Wins in the last 10 matches? That's what some people seem to favor, just the most recent results. But this nullifies a good early season, and what is the rationale for that? Anybody can say, I don't think so-and-so should go, but it's a lot harder to come up with measurable, concrete criteria.
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Post by scmb19 on Apr 24, 2006 14:42:39 GMT -5
#1 UCI (at-large in loss to Pepp in MPSF finals) #2 Pepperdine (wins MPSF) #3 Loyola #4 Penn St.
UCI vs Pepperdine in finals, Pepp wins again!
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Post by govolley20 on Apr 24, 2006 14:53:46 GMT -5
#1 UCI (at-large in loss to Pepp in MPSF finals) #2 Pepperdine (wins MPSF) #3 Loyola #4 Penn St. UCI vs Pepperdine in finals, Pepp wins again! This is the senario I would like to see also!
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Post by chilulu on Apr 24, 2006 16:11:37 GMT -5
1. UCI -obvious 2. PEPP -The most consisant of the rest in regular and post season 3. MASON -I dont think Penn can right the ship in time 4. IPFW -The second year in a row IPFW will have upset Loyola at Loyola, they will have wasted the one seed twice in a row(plus Lewis is back in the mix next year.) Lots of pressure on Davis.
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Post by mikesmith on Apr 24, 2006 16:28:23 GMT -5
UCI UH IPFW PSU
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Post by thorjr02 on Apr 24, 2006 17:08:40 GMT -5
#1 UCI #2 UH #3 IPFW #4 PSU - just due to the fact that PSU lost to IPFW?!?!?
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Post by VBaller23 on Apr 24, 2006 20:05:45 GMT -5
Does this mean that last years UCLA team or this years UH team deserve the at large bid if the #1 seed wins out... I personally don't think either one of them does but thats how the criteria is worded and if anything needs to be changed its the criteria. This was kinda beat to death last year. The criteria looks pretty reasonable to me. Record, head-to-head, road record. What do you think the criteria should be? Wins in the last 10 matches? That's what some people seem to favor, just the most recent results. But this nullifies a good early season, and what is the rationale for that? Anybody can say, I don't think so-and-so should go, but it's a lot harder to come up with measurable, concrete criteria. K well if you really think this criteria is suitable then lets apply to something like basketball. (just for example ofcourse) Does anybody honestly think that a #2 seed in the tournament that gets upset in the early rounds deserves a free ride to the final four based on early season wins and consistency throughout the season? Definitely not. March Madness is all about the big games, upsets, and excitement in the playoffs... cuz thats where its really matters THE PLAYOFFS. Teams that can't step it up and beat teams they beat in the regular season and should beat in the early round playoff games don't deserve the at large bid to the final four. I'm not going to get into what I think the criteria should be for the final four because its obviously flawed without a doubt. I mean the top teams in the country are on the west coast and still being left out of the final four. I heard the 8 team tournament has been pushed back to 2009, which provides 2 more years of great teams being left out of the final four. Volleyball will get it together sooner or later where people won't even need to have debates like this... how long its gonna take is the real mystery
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Post by rocky_too on Apr 24, 2006 20:17:10 GMT -5
Does anybody honestly think that a #2 seed in the tournament that gets upset in the early rounds deserves a free ride to the final four based on early season wins and consistency throughout the season? Definitely not. Al Scates disagrees with you, 'cause he wrote the rules. Now he has to live by them.
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Post by aaronic on Apr 24, 2006 21:06:41 GMT -5
Anybody but Hawaii has to win it all to get to the final four... bottom line. Hawaii should get the at large bid according to the criteria if UCI wins it all. Pretty much the same situation as last year with UCLA getting it over LB. Does this mean that last years UCLA team or this years UH team deserve the at large bid if the #1 seed wins out... I personally don't think either one of them does but thats how the criteria is worded and if anything needs to be changed its the criteria. As I hope for Hawaii to get lucky and get the call, I cringe at the prospect of UCI having to take on LBSU because they played a pretty close match a couple of weeks ago in Irvine, so yikes i'm a little worried there. Would I be going out on a limb to say that UCI will have an easier time with PEPP/UCLA(compared to BEACH)?
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Post by Mac on Apr 24, 2006 21:16:14 GMT -5
LBS is playing well right now. You have every right to be worried. They keep reconstituting their lineup and every time it's deadly.
The UCI team was at the Pyramid on Saturday and saw their new look firsthand. I'm sure Speraw will have a game plan.
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Post by VBaller23 on Apr 24, 2006 23:17:32 GMT -5
Yes I'm sure Speraw will have a game plan to try and stop the Beach but LB also knows that the entire UCI team was watching that game, including Knipe. They are probably gonna mix up some things too to counter-attack UCI's scouting attempt saturday night =). Should be a good match... can't wait
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