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Post by IdahoBoy on Mar 18, 2003 21:54:26 GMT -5
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see it is there are four teams in the championship, the MPSF, MIVA, and the EIVA champs, plus one at-large team.
Who does the at-large team go to, and what are the criteria for choosing them? I can't seem to find much info on this.
I don't understand why there can't be at least 8 or even 16 teams for the championship... hell, include them all, it'll only add, what, one more round?
Since the MPSF is by far the toughest conference... does the big usually go to the second place team?
If it is, does anyone else see that it could be very difficult for Hawai'i to get in? Basically, they cannot lose any more matches.
TEAM ______MPSF - OVERALL
Pepperdine____ 14-1 - 16-2
Brigham Young _13-3 -- 15-4
Hawai’i ________9-5 -- 15-5
Pacific _________8-5 --13-8
Remaining Schedules
Pepperdine
8 remaining matches
Thu., Mar. 20 *LONG BEACH STATE
Fri., Mar. 21 RUTGERS-NEWARK
Fri., Mar. 28 *at Pacific
Sat., Mar. 29 *at Stanford
Thu. Apr. 3 *UC IRVINE
Sat., Apr. 5 *UCLA
Fri., Apr. 11 *BRIGHAM YOUNG
Sat., Apr. 12 *BRIGHAM YOUNG
BYU
6 remaining matches
MAR 21 at CS Northridge
MAR 22 at CS Northridge
MAR 28 Long Beach State
MAR 29 Long Beach State
APR 11 at Pepperdine
APR 12 at Pepperdine
Hawai'i
8 remaining matches
3/21/2003 Pacific
3/22/2003 Pacific
3/26/2003 at UC San Diego
3/28/2003 at UC San Diego
4/4/2003 UC Santa Barbara
4/5/2003 UC Santa Barbara
4/11/2003 USC
4/12/2003 USC
Pacific
10 remaining matches
18-Mar NEW YORK UNIVERSITY
21-Mar • at Hawai'i
22-Mar • at Hawai'i
28-Mar • PEPPERDINE
29-Mar • USC
3-Apr • at Long Beach State
4-Apr • at UC San Diego
8-Apr • STANFORD
11-Apr • at UC Irvine
12-Apr • at UCLA
In my humble opinion, Hawai'i has the easiest remaining schedule, with Pepperdine next. Pacific doesn't have a good shot at all nor does anyone with more current losses than 5.
If Hawai'i falters, they could end up 3rd behind Pepp and BYU, if they don't, then they are STILL hoping for some BYU losses (2). If BYU sucks it up (as in wins), they will be going to the Final Four instead of UH... I don't like that thought.
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Mar 18, 2003 22:59:19 GMT -5
Hawaii should sweep out. Their current lineup is doing some big time damage. If they play every night, they'll do fine.
The other three teams will have to face each other, I highly doubt any team will come out undefeated. I'm betting Pepp will lose one, but they'll win the MPSF no doubt.
Hawaii SHOULD end up 2nd.
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Post by Eater on Mar 18, 2003 23:43:00 GMT -5
Doesn't look particularly great for Hawaii. They *should* win the rest of their games, but they've had quite a few games this season they should've won that they didn't. 8 games in a row is a long time to go without having one screwup.
Hawaii needs to do perfectly and have BYU lose at least two games, probably the two at Pep, I doubt they lose any of the others. That has a good chance of happening, but its not for sure.
I'm pretty sure the at-large team is decided by committee, not some win-loss formula. If their records are close, it'll come down to who goes farther in the MPSF championship. Hawaii needs to flat out win the MPSF title, or have BYU drop out early. We'll probably see a wacky situation like we did a couple years back when they had to pick between BYU and Hawaii, chose BYU and pissed all the Hawaii fans off. Whatever the result, someone is going to end up bitching about it.
edit: changed UCLA to BYU
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Post by Eater on Mar 18, 2003 23:44:52 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Pacific is out. They have TOUGH schedule coming up. Their record is going to get hammered.
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Post by let down on Mar 19, 2003 0:58:09 GMT -5
. We'll probably see a wacky situation like we did a couple years back when they had to pick between UCLA and Hawaii, chose UCLA and pissed all the Hawaii fans off. Whatever the result, someone is going to end up bitching about it. Wow!!!! Really, when did that happen, I really do not remember that at all, the last 2 times UCLA got the at large berth to the final four was when they are runner up to Stanford and Pepperdine at the MPSF finals. Got your facts right before you post otherwise people can tell that you are a fool |
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Post by Eater on Mar 19, 2003 1:12:44 GMT -5
Wow!!!! Really, when did that happen, I really do not remember that at all, the last 2 times UCLA got the at large berth to the final four was when they are runner up to Stanford and Pepperdine at the MPSF finals. Got your facts right before you post otherwise people can tell that you are a fool Calm down buddy, it was a while ago and I got BYU and UCLA mixed up. Hawaii beat BYU, and BYU got the at large berth. |
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Post by tigfan on Mar 19, 2003 1:35:17 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Pacific is out. They have TOUGH schedule coming up. Their record is going to get hammered. Are you saying that the Tigers won't make the playoffs? Or simply that they are out of the running for the at-large bid? If you are suggesting that the Tigers won't make the MPSF tourny, I have to disagree. I'd have to put my money on Northridge, UCLA, or Stanford to "be that guy" that doesn't make the tourny. |
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Post by Eater on Mar 19, 2003 3:59:06 GMT -5
Are you saying that the Tigers won't make the playoffs? Or simply that they are out of the running for the at-large bid? If you are suggesting that the Tigers won't make the MPSF tourny, I have to disagree. I'd have to put my money on Northridge, UCLA, or Stanford to "be that guy" that doesn't make the tourny. They won't make the at large. They've got a good chance to make the playoffs, could go either way though. |
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Post by roy on Mar 19, 2003 4:30:09 GMT -5
Chances are everything will come down to the MPSF tournament. Here are the possibilites, assuming all goes according to seeding. We all seem to agree that Pepperdine, BYU, and Hawaii will end in the top 3, the only question remains is which order. Pepperdine is almost a lock at number one and Hawaii and BYU are two and three (maybe not in that order).
If Pepperdine gets knocked out of the tournement, likely they will win the at large. Great record speaks for itself and as long as they get into the MPSF semi-finals, they are almost a lock. The winner of the MPSF will obviously get the automatic bid.
If everything else goes according to seed, Hawaii and BYU will meet in the other semi-final match in Malibu. The winner will move on into the MPSF final. If they meet Pepperdine in that final, the winner of the BYU/Hawaii match will likely win the at-large.
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Post by Eater on Mar 19, 2003 5:08:40 GMT -5
The winner will move on into the MPSF final. If they meet Pepperdine in that final, the winner of the BYU/Hawaii match will likely win the at-large. The only thing that would throw that off would be if either Hawaii or BYU loses some games they shouldn't and drops a couple games below the other. If the lower ranked team beats the other in the semis, but loses to Pep in the finals, there's no way of knowing which team will get the bid, and there's sure to be a whole host of pissed off fans/players who think their team should've gotten it. |
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Post by vb12 on Mar 19, 2003 10:56:28 GMT -5
I haven't seen anything about UCI. What are their chances of making the playoffs? are they a lock? or will it be tough for them to get in? Just wondering..
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Post by KnowingVB on Mar 19, 2003 12:31:09 GMT -5
The MPSF, what a great conference. If Pepp wins the regular season, which they will, they will be the #1 in the tournament. After that, BYU and Hawaii, assuming both are #2 and #3 at the end of the regular season will have to play in the semi's of the tourney. My prediction is that the winner of that match will get the at large bid. The question right now is "who is going to make the playoffs?" Pepperdine-In Hawaii--Easiest remaining schedule-In BYU-Tough remaining schedule with CSUN, LBSU and two matches at Pepp. Pacific-Tough remaining schedule-  Long Beach-Playing well-8 matches left-not easy- CSUN-Faulted with loss to USC-could be the one left out. Stanford-Long break for finals-tough schedule- UCI-Started off on fire, is now 8-8 and in the pack- UCLA-8-9 in the MPSF, worst loss season EVER-Could be the one not to get in. This would be great. UCSB, USC, and USCD are all out. SO the question remains, which probably won't be answered until the last week of the season, who will be the one team NOT in the playoffs, other than the bottom three right now. My guess, Northridge is going to fold. Go Waves!!!!! |
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Post by Psychopotamus on Mar 19, 2003 18:08:07 GMT -5
Everyone is saying Hawaii could lose one of their matches, but has anyone seen BYU's schedule? I think it will be tought to not get swept by Pepperdine, let alone split with them and BYU (and that would only put them in a tie, right?).
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Post by Eater on Mar 19, 2003 23:34:19 GMT -5
Everyone is saying Hawaii could lose one of their matches, but has anyone seen BYU's schedule? I think it will be tought to not get swept by Pepperdine, let alone split with them and BYU (and that would only put them in a tie, right?). For them to be tied, BYU must lose both to Pep, and Hawaii must go undefeated for the next 8 games. Either one of those doesn't happen, and BYU will be ahead. |
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Post by vballmom on Mar 20, 2003 8:58:29 GMT -5
I know that BYU is playing LBSU at home, but with the way LBSU is playing right now and the fact the BYU almost lost to UCI, I think LBSU stands a good chance of taking at least one away from BYU.
Unless something really wacky happens to UH or they have a mental let down, I don't see them losing any more matches.
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