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Post by recleague on Dec 12, 2010 23:23:50 GMT -5
Ok I just got some inside information about what happened between Cook and McLaughlin from a very reliable source that witnessed the whole incidence. It is your choice to believe me or not. Both coaches were walking towards each other, JMac put out his hand to shake Cook's hand and at that point Cook slapped JMac's hand and then said that ball was f*&king in. It was at that point that JMac charged Cook and had to be restrainted by Cook's assistant and then Cook was restrained by someone else. During that is when Cook's wife came running down from the stands and she was held back by someone. Like I said the person that told me is not a coach but is involved in volleyball high up and witnessed the whole thing in front of her. You can see in the video that was posted on here that is from the end of the court that they shake hands so I don't think the slapping his hand is credible but I can't say for sure. It looks to me like he shakes Cook's hand then he pushes him aside like and tries to quickly shake Sullivan's hands and then that seems to be where the heated words are exchanged.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 12, 2010 23:23:52 GMT -5
Weak. weak. and weaker.....Which coach, however "properly pumped" their record may be, is in a position to rain down "F Bombs" in the midst of a venture in which a group of young women's future is the priority - I ask. This coach, who I have no preconceived ideas about, should be banished from this sacred calling. How DARE him.....Which school, which University, which conference....should not matter. Banish this person whose priorities do NOT fit with the calling. Watch all the video you like. It WILL NOT CHANGE A THING.... News flash -- if you want to hear some bawdy language, go hang around a women's college volleyball (or basketball, or softball, or soccer) practice before warmups or afterward while these players are all standing around casually talking to each other! A coach saying the word "!!!!###$$$!!!" isn't going to make his players fail their American History final exam.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 23:56:16 GMT -5
I'm not defending Jim here, as he should have never lost it in front of the players and attendees, should have given his piece of mind in the tunnels after things were cooled down, IMO. But two things to remember: 1) In 10 years of watching him coach in person, Jim has never ever ever reacted to anything remotely close to how he did. He's hardly even raised his voice before and rarely complains (leaving that to the captains), so what the hell could have set him off like that? which relates to.. 2) This is the second time this season that Cook has discredited Washington for beating one of his Nebraska teams, and that isn't just a slip up at that point, it's straight up disrespect. Jim probably knows about the first time too, if someone was just blatantly disrespecting me I'd probably say "F___ you" too, there's only so much you can ignore and laugh off before you're just being a coward. I am confused here. How is saying a ball is out discrediting a team and how did Cook discredit Washington the first time? By saying there is no rivalry? Pedro...come on!! You have got to have something better than this or your team is the most sensitive bunch of babies on earth.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 12, 2010 23:57:59 GMT -5
Weak. weak. and weaker.....Which coach, however "properly pumped" their record may be, is in a position to rain down "F Bombs" in the midst of a venture in which a group of young women's future is the priority - I ask. This coach, who I have no preconceived ideas about, should be banished from this sacred calling. How DARE him.....Which school, which University, which conference....should not matter. Banish this person whose priorities do NOT fit with the calling. Watch all the video you like. It WILL NOT CHANGE A THING.... News flash -- if you want to hear some bawdy language, go hang around a women's college volleyball (or basketball, or softball, or soccer) practice before warmups or afterward while these players are all standing around casually talking to each other! A coach saying the word "!!!!###$$$!!!" isn't going to make his players fail their American History final exam. I love when people make excuses for coaches with bad lanquage. Is there ever any reason for it?
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 0:03:48 GMT -5
The very fact that you want me to produce a list seems to me proof that it wouldn't matter if I produced one or not. Let's just say that I think reasonable VB fans would agree he seems to be in the middle of more controversies than any other DI coach. Is this because of Nebraska's popularity? I've heard that explanation, but it doesn't explain why Shoji never is. Do you really want a list? Because mine starts with Wisconsin and his comments about Mary Wise and Florida. What other coaches say are not carefully monitored and broadcast through the volleyball world.The strange thing is, you non conference fans seem to find Nebraska and the happenings of the team more fascinating than we do. Its like the TMZ of volleyball. I am sure that many coaches have things to say and have incidents or moments but no one seems to care. You are all just as fascinated with Nebraska volleyball as Nebraska fans. Look at the Pavan situation and the Holloway deal, not to mention Sydney Anderson....etc. This stuff happens on every other team but yet not many seem to care.
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Post by pedro el leon on Dec 13, 2010 0:05:59 GMT -5
I'm not defending Jim here, as he should have never lost it in front of the players and attendees, should have given his piece of mind in the tunnels after things were cooled down, IMO. But two things to remember: 1) In 10 years of watching him coach in person, Jim has never ever ever reacted to anything remotely close to how he did. He's hardly even raised his voice before and rarely complains (leaving that to the captains), so what the hell could have set him off like that? which relates to.. 2) This is the second time this season that Cook has discredited Washington for beating one of his Nebraska teams, and that isn't just a slip up at that point, it's straight up disrespect. Jim probably knows about the first time too, if someone was just blatantly disrespecting me I'd probably say "F___ you" too, there's only so much you can ignore and laugh off before you're just being a coward. I am confused here. How is saying a ball is out discrediting a team and how did Cook discredit Washington the first time? By saying there is no rivalry? Pedro...come on!! You have got to have something better than this or your team is the most sensitive bunch of babies on earth. In a season preview Cook was asked about the 6-2 and the 2005 season, the last time they ran it. Cook said that was his best team ever and they only lost because of "outside circumstances" and "older players." He gave absolutely no credit to UW, just made excuses for why his team lost but never really saying why. That's disrespect. You're calling me sensitive and you keep trying to tell everybody JMac was verbally abusing and physically threatening Cook?! Okay.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 0:07:09 GMT -5
I want to add if Cook went after another coach like McLaughlin did and dropped the F- Bomb repeatedly not a single one of you would be saying he was provoked. This board would whine more than a pregnant woman in in July.
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Post by bunnywailer on Dec 13, 2010 0:09:39 GMT -5
I want to add if Cook went after another coach like McLaughlin did and dropped the F- Bomb repeatedly not a single one of you would be saying he was provoked. This board would whine more than a pregnant woman in in July. Yeah, we sure would. We can't stand Cook. He's a dumbass. Deal with it.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 13, 2010 0:12:36 GMT -5
This has been a very interesting experience, but I'm over it. Nobody is all that interested in Nebraska volleyball outside of Nebraska, but your post comparing Nebraska to TMZ suggests you think Nebraska is the center of the volleyball world. It's not. You are like a fun house mirror--you reflect everything someone else says in your own distorted fashion. These threads have dragged on not because everyone is so preoccupied with Nebraska, but because some of you are so tenacious in your hypocrisy ("This is not about about what Cook did, it's about what Mclaughlin did!! Ignore that man behind the curtain!")
I hope all you nebraska nuts and squirrels have a nice winter hibernation!
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 0:28:10 GMT -5
This has been a very interesting experience, but thank goodness it's over for me. Nobody is all that interested in Nebraska volleyball outside of nebraska, but your post comparing Nebraska to TMZ suggests you think Nebraska is the center of the volleyball world. It's not. You are like a fun house mirror--you reflect everything in your own distorted fashion. These posts have dragged on because some of you are tenacious in your hypocrisy ("this is not about about what Cook did, it's about what Mclaughlin did!! Ignore that man behind the curtain!") I hope all you nebraska nuts and squirrels have a nice winter hibernation. Talk about hypocrisy. You are responding to the post that you claim to be so bored of? Who's crazy?
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 0:30:14 GMT -5
I am confused here. How is saying a ball is out discrediting a team and how did Cook discredit Washington the first time? By saying there is no rivalry? Pedro...come on!! You have got to have something better than this or your team is the most sensitive bunch of babies on earth. In a season preview Cook was asked about the 6-2 and the 2005 season, the last time they ran it. Cook said that was his best team ever and they only lost because of "outside circumstances" and "older players." He gave absolutely no credit to UW, just made excuses for why his team lost but never really saying why. That's disrespect. You're calling me sensitive and you keep trying to tell everybody JMac was verbally abusing and physically threatening Cook?! Okay. If JMac wasn't verbally and physically moving on Cook then what was he doing? Pedro? Seriously?
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 13, 2010 0:31:51 GMT -5
This has been a very interesting experience, but thank goodness it's over for me. Nobody is all that interested in Nebraska volleyball outside of nebraska, but your post comparing Nebraska to TMZ suggests you think Nebraska is the center of the volleyball world. It's not. You are like a fun house mirror--you reflect everything in your own distorted fashion. These posts have dragged on because some of you are tenacious in your hypocrisy ("this is not about about what Cook did, it's about what Mclaughlin did!! Ignore that man behind the curtain!") I hope all you nebraska nuts and squirrels have a nice winter hibernation. Talk about hypocrisy. You are responding to the post that you claim to be so bored of? Who's crazy? That would be you, mr. funhouse mirror
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 0:34:01 GMT -5
Talk about hypocrisy. You are responding to the post that you claim to be so bored of? Who's crazy? That would be you, mr. funhouse mirror I thought you were done ?
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Post by hochee on Dec 13, 2010 0:48:27 GMT -5
These dudes just behaved like a couple competitive guys on the beach, who have some history. Big deal. Give 'em 10 years and something like this happens again--they won't have the energy, and we'll say, "Remember the good ol' days when.....?"
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 13, 2010 1:33:20 GMT -5
News flash -- if you want to hear some bawdy language, go hang around a women's college volleyball (or basketball, or softball, or soccer) practice before warmups or afterward while these players are all standing around casually talking to each other! A coach saying the word "!!!!###$$$!!!" isn't going to make his players fail their American History final exam. I love when people make excuses for coaches with bad lanquage. Is there ever any reason for it? If you love it, then you should go find an example of it you can love tonight. Because my reply isn't about that at all. I am specifically addressing the absurd suggestion that a coach using certain words is somehow at complete odds with "a group of young women's future". Again, news flash, these are ADULTS. If a 19-year-old adult is going to have her future damaged because she heard some old dude say "!!!!###$$$!!!" a couple times, she's got a long hard life ahead of her anyway. You're an adult now, you're employed by your college Athletics Department to perform certain tasks on the court and in practice. Grow up and welcome to life, where people are going to say and do all kinds of things that you may find distasteful. Fortunately for our society, there is no Right Not To Be Offended Or Exposed To Distasteful Things. Hopefully you figured out "sticks and stones" by 3rd grade.
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