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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2010 8:45:59 GMT -5
I've already said that JMac reacted poorly, though I completely understand and support his reaction. JMac reacted poorly, but he reacted exactly how I would've reacted to such a sarcastic, consdescending comment. Can you admit that Class-Act-Cook should've accepted the defeat with dignity and class and that, had he not said anything other than "Good match, Coach," no altercation would have ensued? Are you a politician as you have an outstanding ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth? "JMac reacted poorly, though I support what he did and would have done the same thing". What does that say about you? I guess that says that I stand up for myself and those important to me in the face of blatant disrespect and I support those who also do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2010 8:47:06 GMT -5
I support people standing up to jerks who make sarcastic, patronizing comments because they're devoid of any class or respect. So your actions in life are predicated on reacting to the environment around you and not on your inherent sense of right and wrong? I sure hope to hell I never cut you off in traffic. You should save your "right v. wrong" lectures for John. And yeah. Don't ever cut me off in traffic.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 10:32:34 GMT -5
These dudes just behaved like a couple competitive guys on the beach, who have some history. Big deal. Give 'em 10 years and something like this happens again--they won't have the energy, and we'll say, "Remember the good ol' days when.....?" I dont disagree
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Dec 13, 2010 10:44:01 GMT -5
I'm not defending Jim here, as he should have never lost it in front of the players and attendees, should have given his piece of mind in the tunnels after things were cooled down, IMO. But two things to remember: 1) In 10 years of watching him coach in person, Jim has never ever ever reacted to anything remotely close to how he did. He's hardly even raised his voice before and rarely complains (leaving that to the captains), so what the hell could have set him off like that? which relates to.. 2) This is the second time this season that Cook has discredited Washington for beating one of his Nebraska teams, and that isn't just a slip up at that point, it's straight up disrespect. Jim probably knows about the first time too, if someone was just blatantly disrespecting me I'd probably say "F___ you" too, there's only so much you can ignore and laugh off before you're just being a coward. What a joke. You say you're not defending Jim but then you make not one but two points in an attempt to do what? Defend Jim.
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Dec 13, 2010 10:53:22 GMT -5
This has been a very interesting experience, but I'm over it. Nobody is all that interested in Nebraska volleyball outside of Nebraska, but your post comparing Nebraska to TMZ suggests you think Nebraska is the center of the volleyball world. It's not. You are like a fun house mirror--you reflect everything someone else says in your own distorted fashion. These threads have dragged on not because everyone is so preoccupied with Nebraska, but because some of you are so tenacious in your hypocrisy ("This is not about about what Cook did, it's about what Mclaughlin did!! Ignore that man behind the curtain!") I hope all you nebraska nuts and squirrels have a nice winter hibernation! Forgetting the ludicrousness of your statement, you can't be all bad if you use a quote from The Wizard of Oz to make your point. ;D
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Post by tomclen on Dec 13, 2010 10:54:57 GMT -5
FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH MEETS WITH JOHN COOK TO DISCUSS UW CALL
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 11:07:07 GMT -5
I love when people make excuses for coaches with bad lanquage. Is there ever any reason for it? If you love it, then you should go find an example of it you can love tonight. Because my reply isn't about that at all. I am specifically addressing the absurd suggestion that a coach using certain words is somehow at complete odds with "a group of young women's future". Again, news flash, these are ADULTS. If a 19-year-old adult is going to have her future damaged because she heard some old dude say "!!!!###$$$!!!" a couple times, she's got a long hard life ahead of her anyway. You're an adult now, you're employed by your college Athletics Department to perform certain tasks on the court and in practice. Grow up and welcome to life, where people are going to say and do all kinds of things that you may find distasteful. Fortunately for our society, there is no Right Not To Be Offended Or Exposed To Distasteful Things. Hopefully you figured out "sticks and stones" by 3rd grade. Out of all the intelligents posts you have made , this is probably the most surprising and disappointing of any. If the coaches and administrators can't be an example anymore to their student athletes then that doesn't say alot about the state of sports these days. Grow up and welcome to life? That is your answer? Yes...the F Bomb is used profusely in this world and in sports and how sad is that? Does anyone have any control anymore of what they say or do? Hell...why don't we just pull out our wangers in public and piss on the streets. After all....hey...grow up...all men piss....right? Next...how about kindergarten teachers letting it rip and saying mother blanker? ...Hey...they hear it anyway right? Is that what your saying? God forbid we develop a few standards in this country these days.
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Post by bunnywailer on Dec 13, 2010 11:13:07 GMT -5
If you love it, then you should go find an example of it you can love tonight. Because my reply isn't about that at all. I am specifically addressing the absurd suggestion that a coach using certain words is somehow at complete odds with "a group of young women's future". Again, news flash, these are ADULTS. If a 19-year-old adult is going to have her future damaged because she heard some old dude say "!!!!###$$$!!!" a couple times, she's got a long hard life ahead of her anyway. You're an adult now, you're employed by your college Athletics Department to perform certain tasks on the court and in practice. Grow up and welcome to life, where people are going to say and do all kinds of things that you may find distasteful. Fortunately for our society, there is no Right Not To Be Offended Or Exposed To Distasteful Things. Hopefully you figured out "sticks and stones" by 3rd grade. Out of all the intelligents posts you have made , this is probably the most surprising and disappointing of any. If the coaches and administrators can't be an example anymore to their student athletes then that doesn't say alot about the state of sports these days. Grow up and welcome to life? That is your answer? Yes...the F Bomb is used profusely in this world and in sports and comes out of their mouth? Does anyone have any control anymore of what they say or do? Hell...why don't we just pull out our wangers in public and piss on the streets. After all....hey...grow up...all men piss....right? Next...how about kindergarten teachers letting it rip and saying mother blanker? ...Hey...they hear it anyway right? Is that what your saying? God forbid we develop a few standards in this country these days.
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 13, 2010 11:17:35 GMT -5
Moving on to urgent matters....
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:19:52 GMT -5
Ive read several say, "first Pelini, now Cook whats going on at Nebraska'? Their administration needs to do something" etc.......The first problem I have with that is what specifically are you comparing? Pelini had a string of psychotic incidents where he snapped and ran around cursing and screaming at anyone who would listen. Cook argued about a call, and during a handshake made an issue of it to an opposing coach (he shouldnt have). I would suggest JMAC's behaviour was far closer to Pelini than Cook's. In terms of the school and their athletic administration. Nebraska president publically censored Pelini after the incident and Osborne had a three hour meeting with Pelini, made him apologize publically, and commit to not doing it again. I think that speaks to how they feel about that, doesnt it? They are saying "we dont condone it, nor will we tolerate it" What is UW's response to JMAC F U'ing at the top of his lungs and going after another coach? I understand the criticism of Cook, I dont get JMAC not only getting a free pass, but justifying his behaviour, which was outrageous, due to what the other coach said . Is he not responsible at all? Is his response ok with the UW administration? I'm just asking.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 13, 2010 11:28:08 GMT -5
Story in the Seattle Times; McLaughlin finally speaks about the incident: • McLaughlin said UW officials have urged him not to comment on the specifics of Friday's incident in front of the scorer's table after the win over Nebraska. He and Nebraska coach John Cook exchanged heated words after their postmatch handshake, and McLaughlin had to be restrained from pursuing Cook. "I feel bad that it happened," McLaughlin said. "I shouldn't have said anything back to him. It's bad for volleyball." seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2013666034_uwvolley13.html
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:31:44 GMT -5
Story in the Seattle Times; McLaughlin finally speaks about the incident: • McLaughlin said UW officials have urged him not to comment on the specifics of Friday's incident in front of the scorer's table after the win over Nebraska. He and Nebraska coach John Cook exchanged heated words after their postmatch handshake, and McLaughlin had to be restrained from pursuing Cook. "I feel bad that it happened," McLaughlin said. "I shouldn't have said anything back to him. It's bad for volleyball." seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2013666034_uwvolley13.htmlThis story is over! JMac is right, he has taken responsibility for his part, and Cook should get some slack for his role in the "altercation" he is responsible for his comment. I applaud JMAC and would guess his administration encouraged a statement. I think the whole incident is unfortunate, but it is competitive athletics, the stakes couldnt be higher and this happens. In the end, if the parties accept responsibility, apologize, its all good.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 13, 2010 11:34:47 GMT -5
KEYSTONE: They were both "yelling", by the way. I'm not sure if it was top of their lungs, but they were both raising their voices.
And many are assuming Cook is being honest when he says, "All I said was 'nice match, that ball was out.'" I don't have any proof that he was being less than honest. Just like I don't have proof that he wasn't being honest about 500 UW fans telling him the ball was out.
Of course, how you say something can be just as important as what you say. I doubt that his tone was along the lines of: "Gee, coach, great match, by the way, I thought that ball was out."
Sort of like when you get butchered by the barber, then co-workers say "Nice Haircut."
My opinion, and my opinion only, Cook was a total jerk and McLaughlin overreacted.
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Post by bunnywailer on Dec 13, 2010 11:38:47 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH!
John Cook is still a @$$%*!*, and a sore loser who can't keep his mouth shut when his team loses.
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Post by volleyboil on Dec 13, 2010 11:38:50 GMT -5
Ive read several say, "first Pelini, now Cook whats going on at Nebraska'? Their administration needs to do something" etc.......The first problem I have with that is what specifically are you comparing? Pelini had a string of psychotic incidents where he snapped and ran around cursing and screaming at anyone who would listen. Cook argued about a call, and during a handshake made an issue of it to an opposing coach (he shouldnt have). I would suggest JMAC's behaviour was far closer to Pelini than Cook's. In terms of the school and their athletic administration. Nebraska president publically censored Pelini after the incident and Osborne had a three hour meeting with Pelini, made him apologize publically, and commit to not doing it again. I think that speaks to how they feel about that, doesnt it? They are saying "we dont condone it, nor will we tolerate it" What is UW's response to JMAC F U'ing at the top of his lungs and going after another coach? I understand the criticism of Cook, I dont get JMAC not only getting a free pass, but justifying his behaviour, which was outrageous, due to what the other coach said . Is he not responsible at all? Is his response ok with the UW administration? I'm just asking. Don't forget to include Osborne in the Whine & Cheese category, with his disdain of Texas.
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