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Post by bunnywailer on Dec 13, 2010 11:41:09 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH! The story is over when @$$%*!* John Cook goes on record to accept responsibility for his portion of the yelling match. "Good match, the ball was out" doesn't cut it. We're still waiting. Will probably be waiting forever for @$$%*!* Cook to own up for his portion.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 11:44:43 GMT -5
Ive read several say, "first Pelini, now Cook whats going on at Nebraska'? Their administration needs to do something" etc.......The first problem I have with that is what specifically are you comparing? Pelini had a string of psychotic incidents where he snapped and ran around cursing and screaming at anyone who would listen. Cook argued about a call, and during a handshake made an issue of it to an opposing coach (he shouldnt have). I would suggest JMAC's behaviour was far closer to Pelini than Cook's. In terms of the school and their athletic administration. Nebraska president publically censored Pelini after the incident and Osborne had a three hour meeting with Pelini, made him apologize publically, and commit to not doing it again. I think that speaks to how they feel about that, doesnt it? They are saying "we dont condone it, nor will we tolerate it" What is UW's response to JMAC F U'ing at the top of his lungs and going after another coach? I understand the criticism of Cook, I dont get JMAC not only getting a free pass, but justifying his behaviour, which was outrageous, due to what the other coach said . Is he not responsible at all? Is his response ok with the UW administration? I'm just asking. Don't forget to include Osborne in the Whine & Cheese category, with his disdain of Texas. I dare to find a more honorable and classy Athletic director in the country!
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:45:57 GMT -5
KEYSTONE: They were both "yelling", by the way. I'm not sure if it was top of their lungs, but they were both raising their voices. And many are assuming Cook is being honest when he says, "All I said was 'nice match, that ball was out.'" I don't have any proof that he was being less than honest. Just like I don't have proof that he wasn't being honest about 500 UW fans telling him the ball was out. Of course, how you say something can be just as important as what you say. I doubt that his tone was along the lines of: "Gee, coach, great match, by the way, I thought that ball was out." Sort of like when you get butchered by the barber, then co-workers say "Nice Haircut." My opinion, and my opinion only, Cook was a total jerk and McLaughlin overreacted. My biggest problem with the pro-JMAC posters has been, Cooks behaiviour prompts "jerk" JMac "overreacted" I find that incredibly interesting when I watch the video. I would like you to answer me the following question, on a scale of one to ten of being innapropriate, how would you rate Cooks behaviour and how would you rate Jims? I think that is a fair question. Ask Jim what Cook said. Those who have were given the same answer as when Cook was asked. I respect Jim for his reply to the question "what did Cook say" I have consistantly said Cook's behaviour wasnt appropriate. Are you saying if Cook raised his voice when he said the ball was out, that makes Jmac's response somehow justified or more appropriate?
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Post by tomclen on Dec 13, 2010 11:46:14 GMT -5
The good news in all this is if these two teams were to meet next year in a regional final, it might have the highest TV ratings in the history of volleyball.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:47:22 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH! The story is over when @$$%*!* John Cook goes on record to accept responsibility for his portion of the yelling match. "Good match, the ball was out" doesn't cut it. We're still waiting. Will probably be waiting forever for @$$%*!* Cook to own up for his portion. I dont disagree with you. Which I hope is an indication of my being able to see this somewhat unbiased.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 11:47:37 GMT -5
NEWSFLASH! John Cook is still a @$$%*!*, and a sore loser who can't keep his mouth shut when his team loses. Do you have absolutely anything intelligent to say?
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Post by tomclen on Dec 13, 2010 11:50:15 GMT -5
KEYSTONE: They were both "yelling", by the way. I'm not sure if it was top of their lungs, but they were both raising their voices. And many are assuming Cook is being honest when he says, "All I said was 'nice match, that ball was out.'" I don't have any proof that he was being less than honest. Just like I don't have proof that he wasn't being honest about 500 UW fans telling him the ball was out. Of course, how you say something can be just as important as what you say. I doubt that his tone was along the lines of: "Gee, coach, great match, by the way, I thought that ball was out." Sort of like when you get butchered by the barber, then co-workers say "Nice Haircut." My opinion, and my opinion only, Cook was a total jerk and McLaughlin overreacted. Still making excuses even after your coach has apologized. Perhaps you all should follow his lead and stop making excuses as to why he did it. I'm not making excuses. I clearly said JMac overreacted. What I am saying is, in a roundabout way, there can only be a few reasons to even mention the line call in a post-match handshake: 1. You want to provoke a reaction. 2. You are a poor loser. 3. All of the above. By the way, watching the players shake hands (and a few hugs) after the match, I wonder how many Nebraska players said "Nice Match, that ball was out"? My guess: Zero.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:51:42 GMT -5
Story in the Seattle Times; McLaughlin finally speaks about the incident: • McLaughlin said UW officials have urged him not to comment on the specifics of Friday's incident in front of the scorer's table after the win over Nebraska. He and Nebraska coach John Cook exchanged heated words after their postmatch handshake, and McLaughlin had to be restrained from pursuing Cook. "I feel bad that it happened," McLaughlin said. "I shouldn't have said anything back to him. It's bad for volleyball." seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2013666034_uwvolley13.htmlThe article notes that Jim had to be restrained from pursuing Cook. Which I thought is what the video demonstrated.
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Post by harryhotspur on Dec 13, 2010 11:55:16 GMT -5
Presumably McLaughlin knew Cook was a jerk before? Ergo, Cook was his normal self and McLaughlin was the one who overreacted.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:57:01 GMT -5
Still making excuses even after your coach has apologized. Perhaps you all should follow his lead and stop making excuses as to why he did it. I'm not making excuses. I clearly said JMac overreacted. What I am saying is, in a roundabout way, there can only be a few reasons to even mention the line call in a post-match handshake: 1. You want to provoke a reaction. 2. You are a poor loser. 3. All of the above. By the way, watching the players shake hands (and a few hugs) after the match, I wonder how many Nebraska players said "Nice Match, that ball was out"? My guess: Zero. I think your still making the incident about Cook's comment. My point and I think Jim has now aknowledged that, is that Jim is completely responsible for actions, and he behaved poorly. I would be interested in your response to my question of on a scale of 1-10 rate the innapropriateness of their actions. I really think people see Cooks as worse, and bias or no bias, that blows me away.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 11:59:21 GMT -5
Presumably McLaughlin knew Cook was a jerk before? Ergo, Cook was his normal self and McLaughlin was the one who overreacted. I can live with that. Although there would be those who certainly would say and give examples of Jim being a jerk.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 12:03:00 GMT -5
Still making excuses even after your coach has apologized. Perhaps you all should follow his lead and stop making excuses as to why he did it. I'm not making excuses. I clearly said JMac overreacted. What I am saying is, in a roundabout way, there can only be a few reasons to even mention the line call in a post-match handshake: 1. You want to provoke a reaction. 2. You are a poor loser. 3. All of the above. By the way, watching the players shake hands (and a few hugs) after the match, I wonder how many Nebraska players said "Nice Match, that ball was out"? My guess: Zero. How many times do Nebraskans have to admit that Cook certainly should have refrained from saying anything? Whats your point?
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 13, 2010 12:06:06 GMT -5
The good news in all this is if these two teams were to meet next year in a regional final, it might have the highest TV ratings in the history of volleyball. LOL...very true. I feel a little badly for the final four. This situation has unfortunately overshadowed others success.
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 13, 2010 12:11:16 GMT -5
Im done with this. Its done, its overblown, and people are going to see it the way they want to see it.
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Post by outsidehitter1 on Dec 13, 2010 12:18:55 GMT -5
The very fact that you want me to produce a list seems to me proof that it wouldn't matter if I produced one or not. Let's just say that I think reasonable VB fans would agree he seems to be in the middle of more controversies than any other DI coach. Is this because of Nebraska's popularity? I've heard that explanation, but it doesn't explain why Shoji never is. Do you really want a list? Because mine starts with Wisconsin and his comments about Mary Wise and Florida. What other coaches say are not carefully monitored and broadcast through the volleyball world.The strange thing is, you non conference fans seem to find Nebraska and the happenings of the team more fascinating than we do. Its like the TMZ of volleyball. I am sure that many coaches have things to say and have incidents or moments but no one seems to care. You are all just as fascinated with Nebraska volleyball as Nebraska fans. Look at the Pavan situation and the Holloway deal, not to mention Sydney Anderson....etc. This stuff happens on every other team but yet not many seem to care. oh puhlease you guys are just DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA
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