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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:10:59 GMT -5
I don’t know if this is a joke? Or what. Can I see your list? All-Around to me includes serving, blocking, passing, digging, attacking. If you are beyond exceptional in one area, that easily makes up for another area. But if you are a player like Allie Barber (Marquette) you aren't making this list because you are a one-trick pony. Yossi might not pass or defend well, but her attacking and blocking are just so good that I can't keep her off this list. Also, I'm going to bold some important parts here: Anyways, FWIW, here's 10 of my favorite outside hitters who all have all-around game. Oh so because you suck in one category but are good in another that balances it out and makes you a well-rounded player? Interesting. I thought the definition of well rounded was just that...well rounded in everything. |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 5, 2020 13:11:21 GMT -5
yeah which are justified. You put players who didn’t even make the NCAA tournament in to your top 10. And when did I say Sponcil wasn’t good? I actually think she is. But let’s talk about 2015 right? Lol I'll just leave this here. Yes that is my argument. You’re not that great or a player to be considered top ten if your team doesn’t even make the tournament. That’s collegiate volleyball. If they were so great, then they should’ve had no issues at least making a tourney. |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 5, 2020 13:11:52 GMT -5
Where TF did you guys get these Stanford fans from? Surely they can't be alumni  |
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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:13:05 GMT -5
yeah which are justified. You put players who didn’t even make the NCAA tournament in to your top 10. And when did I say Sponcil wasn’t good? I actually think she is. But let’s talk about 2015 right? Lol I'll just leave this here. Yes that is my argument. You’re not that great or a player to be considered top ten if your team doesn’t even make the tournament. That’s collegiate volleyball. If they were so great, then they should’ve had no issues at least making a tourney.Fine by me. You showed your knowledge of what a well rounded player means. Apparently you can suck in a few areas, but as long as you’re a good attacker, that makes you a well-rounded player. |
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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:14:15 GMT -5
Where TF did you guys get these Stanford fans from? Surely they can't be alumni Lol you’re a USC fan. Pretty much the biggest d-bag school in the country. But please, lecture me. |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 5, 2020 13:15:46 GMT -5
I'll just leave this here. Fine by me. You showed your knowledge of what a well rounded player means. Apparently you can suck in a few areas, but as long as you’re a good attacker, that makes you a well-rounded player. Did you miss the Allie Barber comment ? Or do you not know who she is either? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:16:29 GMT -5
I don’t know if this is a joke? Or what. exactly!? What all-around game was displayed by Mac May? I must’ve missed her crazy dig numbers, her tremendous serve receive, her wall of a block, her dime passes, etc. Lol THAT was a poor choice for a comparison. May was the better passer: a higher good pass percentage than McClure, (56.1% over 54%), has a much better serve (opponents passed 44.9% against McClure, just 35.6% against May's serve - lower is better), better termination rate (41.8% vs 32.1%), and hit more efficiently (.287 vs .243). McClure is a good player, but arguing she is better than May means you either can't be objective or don't know much about the sport. |
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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:17:35 GMT -5
exactly!? What all-around game was displayed by Mac May? I must’ve missed her crazy dig numbers, her tremendous serve receive, her wall of a block, her dime passes, etc. Lol THAT was a poor choice for a comparison. May was the better passer: a higher good pass percentage than McClure, (56.1% over 54%), has a much better serve (opponents passed 44.9% against McClure, just 35.6% against May's serve - lower is better), better termination rate (41.8% vs 32.1%), and hit more efficiently (.287 vs .243). McClure is a good player, but arguing she is better than May means you either can't be objective or don't know much about the sport. Show me where I argued she was? Somebody was premature. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:18:06 GMT -5
exactly!? What all-around game was displayed by Mac May? I must’ve missed her crazy dig numbers, her tremendous serve receive, her wall of a block, her dime passes, etc. Lol THAT was a poor choice for a comparison. May was the better passer: a higher good pass percentage than McClure, (56.1% over 54%), has a much better serve (opponents passed 44.9% against McClure, just 35.6% against May's serve - lower is better), better termination rate (41.8% vs 32.1%), and hit more efficiently (.287 vs .243). McClure is a good player, but arguing she is better than May means you either can't be objective or don't know much about the sport. omg I was waiting for you to come and say this Bc I knew you had told me how good Mays stats were |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:19:13 GMT -5
Lol THAT was a poor choice for a comparison. May was the better passer: a higher good pass percentage than McClure, (56.1% over 54%), has a much better serve (opponents passed 44.9% against McClure, just 35.6% against May's serve - lower is better), better termination rate (41.8% vs 32.1%), and hit more efficiently (.287 vs .243). McClure is a good player, but arguing she is better than May means you either can't be objective or don't know much about the sport. Show me where I argued she was? You asked what all around game she displayed. She was one of the top all around OHs in 2019 in the country and had better ball control than McClure (who is a good ball control OH), while also being one of the best terminators in the nation. |
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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:22:07 GMT -5
Show me where I argued she was? You asked what all around game she displayed. She was one of the top all around OHs in 2019 in the country and had better ball control than McClure (who is a good ball control OH), while also being one of the best terminators in the nation. Ok....yeah so you listed stats of one player versus another player who I don’t think was necessarily tremendous, nor ever argued was better. That’s an interesting way of digging to try and make a point. I never even said McClure was necessarily top 10 in any of those categories. What I said was the list doesn’t represent top 10 talent across all areas of the game. Then one poster wanted to separate it into categories which also doesn’t represent all around talent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:24:41 GMT -5
You asked what all around game she displayed. She was one of the top all around OHs in 2019 in the country and had better ball control than McClure (who is a good ball control OH), while also being one of the best terminators in the nation. Ok....yeah so you listed stats of one player versus another player who I don’t think was necessarily tremendous, nor ever argued was better. That’s an interesting way of digging to try and make a point. I never even said McClure was necessarily top 10 in any of those categories. What I said was the list doesn’t represent top 10 talent across all areas of the game. no what you said was that May was not a good passer, defender, and server. Which shows your lack of knowledge of d1 women’s volleyball. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:25:23 GMT -5
You asked what all around game she displayed. She was one of the top all around OHs in 2019 in the country and had better ball control than McClure (who is a good ball control OH), while also being one of the best terminators in the nation. Ok....yeah so you listed stats of one player versus another player who I don’t think was necessarily tremendous, nor ever argued was better. That’s an interesting way of digging to try and make a point. I never even said McClure was necessarily top 10 in any of those categories. What I said was the list doesn’t represent top 10 talent across all areas of the game. I'm not arguing the list. I replied to your post. You said "What all around game was displayed by Mac May?" I pulled up her stats (vs someone you apparently DO think is a good all around player) to demonstrate May's superior all around game. I'm not sure why you're struggling to understand the relevance of those numbers... |
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Post by Ballislife on Jul 5, 2020 13:27:51 GMT -5
Ok....yeah so you listed stats of one player versus another player who I don’t think was necessarily tremendous, nor ever argued was better. That’s an interesting way of digging to try and make a point. I never even said McClure was necessarily top 10 in any of those categories. What I said was the list doesn’t represent top 10 talent across all areas of the game. I'm not arguing the list. I replied to your post. You said "What all around game was displayed by Mac May?" I pulled up her stats (vs someone you apparently DO think is a good all around player) to demonstrate May's superior all around game. I'm not sure why you're struggling to understand the relevance of those numbers... Please point out where I said McClure was a good player? I mean I think she brings value to that team and is reliable in a variety of situations. But please show me where I made that claim, or continue to just toss things out of the blue. I said the list was funny based on the fact that many of the players mentioned don’t have all-around games. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 13:29:27 GMT -5
I'm not arguing the list. I replied to your post. You said "What all around game was displayed by Mac May?" I pulled up her stats (vs someone you apparently DO think is a good all around player) to demonstrate May's superior all around game. I'm not sure why you're struggling to understand the relevance of those numbers... Please point out where I said McClure was a good player? I mean I think she brings value to that team and is reliable in a variety of situations. But please show me where I made that claim, or continue to just toss things out of the blue. I said the list was funny based on the fact that many of the players mentioned don’t have all-around games. your last sentence is just so blatantly incorrect. You keep throwing out claims like that with NOTHING to back it up. You were SO wrong about May and now you don’t know what to do because you were exposed. I’ll go ahead and create a thread about all around OHs going into 2020 to move this from the Stanford thread but seriously get a grip lol |
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