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Post by big10+4 fan on Apr 12, 2019 13:33:44 GMT -5
If only a matchup between 08 PSU and '19 Stanford were possible đ. It would be one hell of a match.
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Post by vbprisoner on Apr 12, 2019 13:42:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure McClure was in serve receive all six rotations last season, yet I can't recall her ever being targeted. I'm not saying we are going to turn into Texas with her out of the lineup; but that first touch is pretty important. Hambly is not going to bench her for Kipp just because Kipp's offense is a little better. Damn Cruz'n that was a low blow! SMH... You keep those negative waves up and karmas gonna bite Stanford in 2019. lol  |
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 12, 2019 13:44:30 GMT -5
If Kipp were to play front row, it would probably make more sense to place her as OH1, since Formico would be in the back row for 2/3 rotations that sheâs in (meaning Plummer, Hentz, and Formico pass together for those rotations). OMG: supplant the reigning, 2x National Player of the Year from her position for said cockamamie postulations? Dude, Now I Know Why YOU Are "The King of Speculation"! Cause switching Plummer to OH2 would be the end of the world. Thank u but next |
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 12, 2019 13:56:00 GMT -5
Iâm curious why people are on the Kipp protectionism train. Why does she HAVE to play? Itâs not even a given that Kipp will come in and actually provide more efficient production than McClure. Stanford lost one match last year, and just about every other team loses a significant piece of their team. Are you really suggesting reinventing the wheel just to placate a freshmen? Kipp *MIGHT* make them better, but thatâs already a high freakin bar. They are ALREADY better than everyone else. I think a lot of us understand that Stanford can win without Kipp. I just think we need her to be as ready as possible in 2020 and riding the bench is not ideal for that. Practice gym might be more competitive than playing against other teams though |
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Post by Cruz'n on Apr 12, 2019 14:05:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure McClure was in serve receive all six rotations last season, yet I can't recall her ever being targeted. I'm not saying we are going to turn into Texas with her out of the lineup; but that first touch is pretty important. Hambly is not going to bench her for Kipp just because Kipp's offense is a little better. Damn Cruz'n that was a low blow! SMH... You keep those negative waves up and karmas gonna bite Stanford in 2019. lol Dang, vbprisoner. I thought I might be able to sneak this comment by you in the off-season. Man, I wish you would refrain from the all-caps. Now you're gonna ignite 100 other Longhorn fans to jump on me! |
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Post by paloalto on Apr 12, 2019 17:10:39 GMT -5
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Post by saywho on Apr 12, 2019 17:18:52 GMT -5
Iâm curious why people are on the Kipp protectionism train. Why does she HAVE to play? Itâs not even a given that Kipp will come in and actually provide more efficient production than McClure. Stanford lost one match last year, and just about every other team loses a significant piece of their team. Are you really suggesting reinventing the wheel just to placate a freshmen? Kipp *MIGHT* make them better, but thatâs already a high freakin bar. They are ALREADY better than everyone else. I don't really feel like anybody has jumped on a Kipp protectionism train and want to solely have her play for the purpose of placating her. I think the argument is that she could potentially bring strengths that make the team better. The reverse could be said, too...why are people so afraid of the idea that McClure might sit and why the need to placate her just because she is a hardworker and seems nice. I figure whomever is best will end up playing (and should); it's pretty simple. But you are correct. Nobody knows that Kipp will provide more efficient production in the front row. Nobody also knows that Kipp would result in a drop off in the back row; it ultimately would depend on how the rotations are set and the players play together. It's just a lot of what ifs. The only not what if is that they will have a crapload of talent next year. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 12, 2019 17:30:06 GMT -5
Iâm curious why people are on the Kipp protectionism train. Why does she HAVE to play? Itâs not even a given that Kipp will come in and actually provide more efficient production than McClure. Stanford lost one match last year, and just about every other team loses a significant piece of their team. Are you really suggesting reinventing the wheel just to placate a freshmen? Kipp *MIGHT* make them better, but thatâs already a high freakin bar. They are ALREADY better than everyone else. I have stated that I believe kipp should play but I just want to clear up that Iâm not that she HAS too play. I even said that she could get to college and not perform well... I donât think thatâs ill happen but you never know. I think with our withoutbkipp Stanford is the best team next year for sure. I would say redshirt kipp and have no problem but I r,ever reading a long time ago on here that st afford doesnât really redshirt players often and even when they do the players donât play all 4 eligibility years. I think it said something like that. So if redshirting is not going to happen then it wouldnât be unreasonable for her to play. The only way kipp should play is if it makes stanford better. Even if Stanford can be the best without kipp playing which they can, if she is going to make them a harder team to beat than she should be playing. If McClure playing all the way around gives Stanford its best possible team, than she should be playing. Period. I would love for kipp to redshirt and play 4 years after that but who knows whatâs gonna happen. Speculation is fun but I canât wait for August to see what theyâre going to do |
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Apr 12, 2019 19:25:32 GMT -5
I'm trying to picture a Kipp protectionism train. Sounds Stephen King scary. BTW, we won't know in August what Stanford is going to do. I'd bet on October.
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Post by bball on Apr 12, 2019 20:40:29 GMT -5
With all this talk..... wouldn't it kinda be funny though if Stanford loses in the tourney.... I mean, it kinda would be. Clearly they're loaded.
No way Kipp rides the bench. Likely a 1st team all American next year. She is a diamond.
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 12, 2019 20:42:29 GMT -5
With all this talk..... wouldn't it kinda be funny though if Stanford loses in the tourney.... I mean, it kinda would be. Clearly they're loaded. No way Kipp rides the bench. Likely a 1st team all American next year. She is a diamond. 1st Team AA is a stretch for a freshman who is only going to play 3 rotations at most, but I do think that she shouldn't be riding any team's bench |
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Apr 12, 2019 21:21:54 GMT -5
I think we all get the importance of serve receive. I just think Kipp should get (meaningful) playing time. Having zero of the freshman get significant minutes doesnât sit right with me. IMO Stanfordâs other passers are good enough to absorb the loss of having McClure out for just three rotations. If we replace McClure with Kipp in the front row, who is going to pass when both Fitzmorris and Kipp are in the front row for two rotations? The passers weâll have available in that set-up then are Plummer, Kipp, Hentz and Fitzmorris. Hentz is a given, but she canât pass the whole court. Plummer is spotty at best and Fitzmorris and Kipp are unknown. Taking McClure out of the front row affects things more than people think. |
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 12, 2019 21:41:24 GMT -5
I think we all get the importance of serve receive. I just think Kipp should get (meaningful) playing time. Having zero of the freshman get significant minutes doesnât sit right with me. IMO Stanfordâs other passers are good enough to absorb the loss of having McClure out for just three rotations. If we replace McClure with Kipp in the front row, who is going to pass when both Fitzmorris and Kipp are in the front row for two rotations? The passers weâll have available in that set-up then are Plummer, Kipp, Hentz and Fitzmorris. Hentz is a given, but she canât pass the whole court. Plummer is spotty at best and Fitzmorris and Kipp are unknown. Taking McClure out of the front row affects things more than people think. Kipp could potentially play OH1 so that thereâs only one rotation of overlap with Kipp/Fitz. Even if she plays OH2, it wouldnât be the end of the world to have her take a small portion of the court (as youâre making it sound like to be frank). Hentz already can cover like half the serve receive formation anyways. Saying I want Kipp to play in the front row doesnât mean itâll happen or that Iâm forgetting that McClure can pass. you say taking McClure out of the front row affects more than people think. I mean what else besides passing does it affect?? Kipp is a bigger blocker and could possibly be a better hitter. If Kippâs not as ready offensively, then sure keep McClure in. And I also think calling Plummer spotty is exaggeration, sheâs held her own back there. |
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Post by Reach on Apr 12, 2019 22:25:24 GMT -5
People love to pick on Plummerâs pass game. Sheâs a really good passer.
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 12, 2019 22:50:52 GMT -5
People love to pick on Plummerâs pass game. Sheâs a really good passer. Fr tho... people acting like she's bad |
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