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Post by goGopherBill on Jan 8, 2011 22:31:02 GMT -5
R ..I can remember Mike's 2nd season 400 would be 200 more than actual Paid. $4 parking in front of building..only true VB amigos and we knew everybody.
It took a few years to build upon what he had been lured into..
If Leo came it wouldn't take that long..
any one less than a STUD coach and we have our basket ball/football/hockey/ programs.
Our in state talent will say ..OH Wisconsin..or whatever they say..
Dont make me go to Louisville and pick him up..
I will of course.
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Post by lawnmowerfan on Jan 8, 2011 22:37:27 GMT -5
Bill...I get that he was very successful at Louisville (and is a good person), but why do you want him so bad to fill this specific role at Minnesota? I'm trying to see your point of view.
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Post by goGopherBill on Jan 8, 2011 23:04:19 GMT -5
He has a solid recruiting pipeline that MN and many other schools have not been able to tap.
He wins.he wins x 100
And as Mike or any other coach will tell you..being a nice guy or gal is good. Graduating players is better.
Wining is best.
and bringing and keeping fans and support is even better.
Not 5 years from now..but next year.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Jan 8, 2011 23:14:58 GMT -5
He has a solid recruiting pipeline that MN and many other schools have not been able to tap. He wins.he wins x 100 And as Mike or any other coach will tell you..being a nice guy or gal is good. Graduating players is better. Wining is best. and bringing and keeping fans and support is even better. Not 5 years from now..but next year. 1. You're assuming Minnesota's OK with the same foreign pipeline model. They might not be. 2. He wins "x100" in the Big East. What's his best finish in the NCAA tournament, and how many times has he done that? I don't recall Louisville being a perennial threat at regionals. He's good, for sure. But Louisville hasn't been in the top 10 ever, have they? And if they were, it was a brief stay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2011 23:15:24 GMT -5
Yelin has no chance. If his recruiting pipeline was so great, why has Minnesota been the better program?
And Minnesota never had crowds of 400. I don't know what Bill is smoking.
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Post by smiley on Jan 9, 2011 1:15:54 GMT -5
Yelin may have been succesful there but Hardin was the one who built the program. He won numerous conf. titles and COY while there while getting in the tourney on a regular basis. But that's a different level. While Don is a good coach and a great guy, like Yelin, he found winning at the B10 level a bit more difficult. Yelin MIGHT be successful at MN but I certainly don't see it as a sure thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 1:30:21 GMT -5
This is silly. Bill is the only one talking about Yelin as a replacement. It just isn't going to happen.
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Post by MurrayLangston on Jan 9, 2011 9:03:36 GMT -5
With a current salary pool of over $325,000 for the 3 paid coaches and a DOVO that is paid over $45,000 you would think this would be an fairly attractive job. Now I know that not everyone would be paid the $198,000 figure that Mike was getting but something more in the $150,000+ range I would guess would attract many. For Christy this might not be a raise at all if memory serves correct. With many establised coaches already making low 6 figures salaries it may not be worth the jump and job security they currently have to MN. This may be one of Carlston's reasons as well. He probably makes good money and would not get that big of a raise by going.
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Post by goGopherBill on Jan 9, 2011 12:27:02 GMT -5
Silly..??
That is what we are all about.
You can Google Yelin's record..and see he is in the top 10 .
and It's funny that he became available at the same time as I started posting about him..
I know those fan numbers are accurate..I was there. Talk to JT ..
Mike had NOTHING at the start.
We were happy to make any National run since it meant going west to Utah..and that was a great place to lose.
The program went as far as it could go with Mike. I love the guy ..but his run was over..other schools caught up and past us.
How?
Based upon their recruiting and coaching base and junior programs and feeder systems they fed upon. Mike had used those systems UP to their potential..got as much out of the talent he had available.
Leo would BROADEN that base while hopefully keeping some of the existing base.
As for the foreign idea..Minnesota has brought players from all over the world and backgrounds before..
Same as FLORIDA or Louisville..or Wisconsin..or any other good or great winning program.
Our University prides itself on diversity..
and the chances of him coming here are as great as any mentioned..better if wisdom is used.
Actually it would be a STEP UP not down..and that cannot be said for any other HIRE. Pt.. set..and match.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Jan 9, 2011 12:45:21 GMT -5
Silly..?? That is what we are all about. You can Google Yelin's record..and see he is in the top 10 . and It's funny that he became available at the same time as I started posting about him.. I know those fan numbers are accurate..I was there. Talk to JT .. Mike had NOTHING at the start. We were happy to make any National run since it meant going west to Utah..and that was a great place to lose. The program went as far as it could go with Mike. I love the guy ..but his run was over..other schools caught up and past us. How? Based upon their recruiting and coaching base and junior programs and feeder systems they fed upon. Mike had used those systems UP to their potential..got as much out of the talent he had available. Leo would BROADEN that base while hopefully keeping some of the existing base. As for the foreign idea..Minnesota has brought players from all over the world and backgrounds before.. Same as FLORIDA or Louisville..or Wisconsin..or any other good or great winning program. Our University prides itself on diversity.. and the chances of him coming here are as great as any mentioned..better if wisdom is used. Actually it would be a STEP UP not down..and that cannot be said for any other HIRE. Pt.. set..and match. One foreign player here and there is quite different from what Yelin was doing. I submit that he would narrow the base greatly. And if your absurd notion that he would be a step up from Mike were true, why did he not do vastly better in the NCAA tournament?
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Post by goGopherBill on Jan 9, 2011 12:53:15 GMT -5
Which one?
Mike has done nothing more than what was expected of him.
He won when he was expected to win..I can ONLY remember say 2-4 complete upsets where he beat a team he was expected to lose to.
Leo has beaten higher ranked opposition more than Mike. Just think on that a bit.
I think of Florida when I think of Foreign players..1 year it looked like team Puerto Rico.
Minny is a diverse school .1/2 the teachers can hardly speak English.
Like many modern university's we pride ourselves on diversity of experience.
This "dream " of a hire is not so far reaching as many would believe.
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Post by Keystonekid on Jan 9, 2011 12:53:24 GMT -5
With a current salary pool of over $325,000 for the 3 paid coaches and a DOVO that is paid over $45,000 you would think this would be an fairly attractive job. Now I know that not everyone would be paid the $198,000 figure that Mike was getting but something more in the $150,000+ range I would guess would attract many. For Christy this might not be a raise at all if memory serves correct. With many establised coaches already making low 6 figures salaries it may not be worth the jump and job security they currently have to MN. This may be one of Carlston's reasons as well. He probably makes good money and would not get that big of a raise by going. Its a great job, and Minnesota can get nearly any coach other than say 10 coaches. going from 150k to 210k is literally peanuts for an athletic dept. Minnesota to me, clearly has not said, "were going big time in volleyball, lets go out and get the best person out there." Minnesota doesnt appear to be doing it the way the big boys do it, and certainly not the way football/basketball do it.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Jan 9, 2011 12:57:21 GMT -5
Leo has beaten higher ranked opposition more than Mike. Just think on that a bit. You're going to have to back this up with some hard numbers. Minnesota went to two final fours under Mike. How many has Louisville been to? What's Louisville's average ranking under Yelin? What's Minnesota's under Mike?
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Post by karellen on Jan 9, 2011 14:22:56 GMT -5
Yelin is not a candidate, if for no other reason than he does not want to come to the Great White North. Florida is his preferred location.
Even if he did want to come to teh tundra, I do not see him as a candidate either. Does not mean he is not good at what he does - he clearly is. It just does not seem like a great fit.
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Post by HeyHey on Jan 9, 2011 14:24:09 GMT -5
Leo has beaten higher ranked opposition more than Mike. Just think on that a bit. You're going to have to back this up with some hard numbers. Minnesota went to two final fours under Mike. How many has Louisville been to? What's Louisville's average ranking under Yelin? What's Minnesota's under Mike? They went to three Final Fours under Mike. 2003, 2004 and 2009.
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