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Post by simplycurious on Feb 11, 2011 14:17:06 GMT -5
judging by cold-uncoaching like timeouts I've seen of Hugh This picture doesn't seem to support your comment. I see emotion there and it definitely looks like there's coaching going on as well.  BTW, the picture is from the 2010 World Championships in Japan and part of this recent article about Hugh accepting the job at Minnesota: www.twincities.com/sports/ci_17350434?nclick_check=1 |
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 11, 2011 14:32:59 GMT -5
You didnt see the video of him ripping Glass?
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Post by abugslife on Feb 11, 2011 14:48:02 GMT -5
All that has been said here is basically correct. One assistant knows he has a job regardless of when Hugh comes to Minnesota. The other assistant is waiting for a final determination so she knows whether or not to start packing. The only varible in all of this is the timing of Hugh's arrival. From the Jobs thread, it seems this female asst. has turned down other offers. Would she do that if she didn't know she was coming here? I think it is done and just waiting to see for how long, as one of the 3 will have to make way when Hugh arrives. very incorrect. The female hasn't turned down any offers because she hasn't been offered them. I believe SLU is trying to lower it down to 6 candidates. This female hasn't heard anything from Hugh as of yet. I mean even though they knew who was getting the job it just happened all yesterday. The female would love to have the job but still is keeping her options open. |
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Post by snatr on Feb 11, 2011 15:00:06 GMT -5
From the Jobs thread, it seems this female asst. has turned down other offers. Would she do that if she didn't know she was coming here? I think it is done and just waiting to see for how long, as one of the 3 will have to make way when Hugh arrives. very incorrect. The female hasn't turned down any offers because she hasn't been offered them. I believe SLU is trying to lower it down to 6 candidates. This female hasn't heard anything from High as of yet. I mean even though they knew who was getting the job it just happened all yesterday. The female would love to have the job but still is keeping her options open.  |
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 11, 2011 15:01:22 GMT -5
are people really complaining about this hire??? Hugh is the BEST hire Minnesota could have dreamed of. Count on a National Championship in the next 5 years. So a program is going to go from winning the conference once in almost 30 years, to now winning a national title in the next few years all because of a coaching change? damn, tell us how you really feel about Herbert. While Hugh is clearly a phenomenal coach I don't think there is anything to suggest that he's head and shoulders above the current crop of elite college coaches, who are experienced at winning at the college level. We all know that success at the college level is not the same as success at the international level, and Hugh simply will not have an entire roster of the best of the best polished female volleyball players at his disposal from day one. I also don't see Hugh having some tangible advantage in recruiting over the stalwart elite college coaches either. Sure he's coached the USA national team for a couple years, but we also must remember that is coaches like Dunning, Rose, Shoji, Cook etc. that have pumped out Olympians for a long time. And given that he'll play in a league with two of the sports best programs (PSU/Nebraska) all season, then get thrown into the post season with the onslaught of the west coast powerhouses, proclaiming that Minnesota is going to win a NC in 5 years, while at the same time some of their best talent is rumored to be leaving, and we have no clue how Hugh will recruit, seems premature. This isn't to say that Hugh won't be successful, because I see no reason why he shouldn't be....but him going to Minnesota by no means automatically makes Minnesota the program to beat. |
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Post by soothsayer on Feb 11, 2011 15:10:27 GMT -5
Hebert. The man deserves at least that much respect.
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Post by ugopher on Feb 11, 2011 15:46:22 GMT -5
...while at the same time some of their best talent is rumored to be leaving, and we have no clue how Hugh will recruit, seems premature. "some"? Know about Love but are there others? |
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Post by moody on Feb 11, 2011 16:10:15 GMT -5
Mike was incredibly lucky to have a tremendous local talent pool to recruit from. Hugh will certainly maintain that and with his current stock will be able to open up that recruiting pool especially with his West Coast ties. That's what will make Minnesota better in a short period of time.
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Post by sonofdogman on Feb 11, 2011 17:38:07 GMT -5
very incorrect. The female hasn't turned down any offers because she hasn't been offered them. ... The female would love to have the job but still is keeping her options open. Regarding Austin Peay, SC wrote "they went In Search Of (great show BTW!) more females. They found at least one and offered her the job, but you'll see her surfacing at MN as soon as they announce their assistants." SC is rarely wrong, so that's where I got my info over in the job thread. Your info has been pretty solid too Bug, so I'm interested to see how this pans out. Your point about her not talking to Hugh yet makes these other points less important I think. |
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Post by vbfamily01 on Feb 11, 2011 17:42:22 GMT -5
I recently learned that I am closer to this "female" than I knew. I heard who this female is and she will do amazing things if this is true and if she goes to the "U". I would say that abugslife is closer to the truth this time, and I wonder if abugslife knows this female...would make sense?
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 11, 2011 18:02:04 GMT -5
are people really complaining about this hire??? Hugh is the BEST hire Minnesota could have dreamed of. Count on a National Championship in the next 5 years. So a program is going to go from winning the conference once in almost 30 years, to now winning a national title in the next few years all because of a coaching change? damn, tell us how you really feel about Herbert. While Hugh is clearly a phenomenal coach I don't think there is anything to suggest that he's head and shoulders above the current crop of elite college coaches, who are experienced at winning at the college level. We all know that success at the college level is not the same as success at the international level, and Hugh simply will not have an entire roster of the best of the best polished female volleyball players at his disposal from day one. I also don't see Hugh having some tangible advantage in recruiting over the stalwart elite college coaches either. Sure he's coached the USA national team for a couple years, but we also must remember that is coaches like Dunning, Rose, Shoji, Cook etc. that have pumped out Olympians for a long time. And given that he'll play in a league with two of the sports best programs (PSU/Nebraska) all season, then get thrown into the post season with the onslaught of the west coast powerhouses, proclaiming that Minnesota is going to win a NC in 5 years, while at the same time some of their best talent is rumored to be leaving, and we have no clue how Hugh will recruit, seems premature. This isn't to say that Hugh won't be successful, because I see no reason why he shouldn't be....but him going to Minnesota by no means automatically makes Minnesota the program to beat. Great points. Hugh will do very well, Hebert already did that. The idea that he is going to come in and out coach, Cook, Rose, Hambly etc.... is silly. He is an exceptional coach but college volleybal has many exceptional coaches. Its very different animal than coaching NT. On the NT you get to choose from the best players, in college you have to pray they choose you. NT is about schemes, systems, preparation mostly. While you have that in college, developing players is a huge part as well. There really isnt tons of that in international VB. Players get better through experience, theyve had the training and reps for the most part. When he arrives he will have Minnesota amongst the elite programs in the country, in short, where Hebert had them. They may take the one step they havent, but they havent starting engraving trophies, and order rings yet. |
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Post by simplycurious on Feb 11, 2011 18:12:01 GMT -5
I believe we're making more of something then is really there. Plus, the person we're discussing is most likely headed to MN, which makes all of this even more trivial. In any respect, it's very possible that this person didn't get an 'official' offer from AP, but was merely at the top of their list. Or, it could be that she did get the offer, but hasn't turned it down yet because she's waiting to see if she's needed at MN. I think this is very likely and may be where I was out of turn by saying she'd already turned down AP. Either way, it's really a minor point to argue between what abugslife and I each posted, since I'm pretty sure this person is just going to end up at MN.  |
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Post by vbfamily01 on Feb 11, 2011 18:56:34 GMT -5
So, abugslife and simplycurious are talking about the same person I have learned. Sorry to cause confusion. This female will do an absolute great job and if she doesnt go to MN, the schools she is supposedly "in play" for should grab her, clearly she is an up and coming...good luck to her!
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Post by paloalto on Feb 11, 2011 18:58:57 GMT -5
I have only glanced thru 5 pages or so, but one thing I saw that I disagree with is the notion Hugh will have an unfair advantage in recruiting once he gets to Minnesota. If you were to ask 10 young players (16 years or under) who the past two USA Olympic Women’s Team HCs were, 9 of the 10 would not know the answer.
Young kids are much more aware and impressed with the likes of Rose and Cook and Wise than Hugh. That is just the way it is with young people. The Olympics will be in their mind for a week while it is happening and then it is forgotten by all but a few.
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Post by abugslife on Feb 11, 2011 19:00:00 GMT -5
I believe we're making more of something then is really there. Plus, the person we're discussing is most likely headed to MN, which makes all of this even more trivial. In any respect, it's very possible that this person didn't get an 'official' offer from AP, but was merely at the top of their list. Or, it could be that she did get the offer, but hasn't turned it down yet because she's waiting to see if she's needed at MN. I think this is very likely and may be where I was out of turn by saying she'd already turned down AP. Either way, it's really a minor point to argue between what abugslife and I each posted, since I'm pretty sure this person is just going to end up at MN. uhhhh i hate having to agree with SC but it is correct.. Good thing I already have a MN shirt that I stole from that person!!! |
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