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Post by ay2013 on Feb 11, 2011 19:04:53 GMT -5
I have only glanced thru 5 pages or so, but one thing I saw that I disagree with is the notion Hugh will have an unfair advantage in recruiting once he gets to Minnesota. If you were to ask 10 young players (16 years or under) who the past two USA Olympic Women’s Team HCs were, 9 of the 10 would not know the answer. Young kids are much more aware and impressed with the likes of Rose and Cook and Wise than Hugh. That is just the way it is with young people. The Olympics will be in their mind for a week while it is happening and then it is forgotten by all but a few. eh.... I will say that the vast majority of vb players probably won't know, but rest assure that the Klineman and Falyn's of the HS crops know exactly who is who, and these are the players that will win Minnesota the big matches. But like I said in my previous posts, I don't think that just because someone coached at the national level for a couple years that players will forget names like Dunning, Haley, Elliot, Mclaughlin etc. |
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Post by mplssetter on Feb 11, 2011 19:40:12 GMT -5
Is one of the new assistants a former player from MN?
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Post by karellen on Feb 11, 2011 20:20:44 GMT -5
no
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Post by badgerbill on Feb 11, 2011 20:32:25 GMT -5
He can only have twelve scholarships, he isn't going to get every elite recruit, and even if he gets a dozen of the best, it is likely he will be unable to keep them all happy. Even the "Great Russ Rose" will have some unhappy players in the next couple of years. Sitting on the bench can get just as draining as a 5 set match.
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Post by moody on Feb 11, 2011 20:55:32 GMT -5
He can only have twelve scholarships, he isn't going to get every elite recruit, and even if he gets a dozen of the best, it is likely he will be unable to keep them all happy. Even the "Great Russ Rose" will have some unhappy players in the next couple of years. Sitting on the bench can get just as draining as a 5 set match. Why would anyone use the Penn State model for recruiting? That' s just crazy. |
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Post by siddhartha on Feb 12, 2011 8:56:59 GMT -5
I think this is a great hire but you have to admit that the interim coaching component of the deal adds a fair amount of question marks. It makes sense that Laura would take those duties to maintain continuity for the current team. It makes sense that she says she'll stay on as assistant. But really, wouldn't you give that about a 50/50 chance of actually happening? If the team does well she'll be highly sought after. If she does well and stays, she may be a rival to Hugh's authority. It's likely that there will be players who will like her more than the new HC. If the team struggles, she may find herself moving on as well. If she moves on for whatever reason, it's possible that she might take a player or two with her. I see recruiting as a wash. They'll probably lose some opportunities because of the transition - but they'll probably get some
interest that they otherwise wouldn't have had.
The interim coaching situation is a wild card. It may go smoothly but a lot of other scenarios could develop as well. It's the chance they take for getting the guy they want and I don't second guess that decision at all. An AD has to be committed
to the big picture.
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Post by Phaedrus on Feb 12, 2011 9:30:54 GMT -5
To beat a dead horse to death.
When Mick came back to USC, he got Jerritt a great job at Texas. I don't remember but I don't think any of the USC players went with him.
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Post by siddhartha on Feb 12, 2011 9:48:46 GMT -5
You can't compare the two. These are unique situations with a multitude of variables thar could take it in one direction or another. It's a wildcard.
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Post by Phaedrus on Feb 12, 2011 10:06:37 GMT -5
You can't compare the two. These are unique situations with a multitude of variables thar could take it in one direction or another. It's a wildcard. Sure I can compare the two. There has been only one data point in memory and that is the only data point we CAN compare. Any other theory is just a theory. After 2012, we will then have two data points. |
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Post by siddhartha on Feb 12, 2011 10:37:59 GMT -5
You can't compare the two. These are unique situations with a multitude of variables thar could take it in one direction or another. It's a wildcard. Sure I can compare the two. There has been only one data point in memory and that is the only data point we CAN compare. Any other theory is just a theory. After 2012, we will then have two data points. You're right, you can compare. I should have said that you can't draw any conclusions from that comparison. A single instance does not a trend make. |
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Post by soothsayer on Feb 12, 2011 11:11:49 GMT -5
A couple of points:
1) There is, however, a LOT of data about coaches leaving a program for another program. I think you will find that the number of players who follow that coach is very, very small. They may not stay at their original program, but they rarely follow the original coach. It's a generalization, yes, but players choose a school not a coach. The coach factors into it, but is not the primary attraction.
2) I thought Laura made it abundantly clear in the interview that she is not interested in being a head coach anymore. The question is whether she's all that interested in coaching, period. I could see her leaving in 2012, but not to continue coaching. But who knows? Maybe the next year will have something to do with that decision? Seems probable.
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Post by soothsayer on Feb 12, 2011 11:14:10 GMT -5
I should add that this is not a criticism of Laura. I find it admirable that she was willing to step up to the plate in this situation. It shows character.
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Post by mnvbfan on Feb 12, 2011 11:41:50 GMT -5
To beat a dead horse to death. Thank you, thank you, thank you - for my morning chuckle. |
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Post by abugslife on Feb 12, 2011 12:10:30 GMT -5
man all you smart people hurt my head this early in the morning.... All this talk about data, comparisons, something squared to the infinite number plus the equilatoral..... ok maybe I went over board..
What essentially will happen is that Hugh will stay with WNT til 2012. Laura will be interim, they will hire a great person who has been a bulldog twice in her life and even once a dinosaur to be recruiting coordinator and a person to be the training coach. I don't know how the person who will be the recruiting coordinator will be able to leave Stacy at Lazio but I think she can do it!!
When Hugh comes back it is known that one of the coaches will have to leave. But to have this experience under their belt I think is worth knowing that. And at that time one of the coaches might be ready to have their own program or leave for another.
Yes there are questions but honestly as a recruit and a parent wouldn't you rather know this now then in other coaching situations where the coaches say they will be there forever then out of nowhere the coach gets a new job and leaves?? Also I don't feel like it is a lot of questions. The recruits know who will be their coach for the next 3 years AT LEAST! You tell me anyone other school can say for sure that their recruits know that! NONE ZERO!! So I feel it is a risk kids will be willing to take. Also the only team that won't be coached by him is 2011 team, 2012 will be coached by him even though he will get there late because Olympics are done by end of August I believe.
Thats my 2 pesos!
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Post by macdaddyvb on Feb 12, 2011 12:17:41 GMT -5
Someone just tell us their names...if its already confirmed, then lets hear it!
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