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Post by peluche on Mar 1, 2007 18:51:08 GMT -5
Nope, tomorrow I believe.
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Post by muoh61010 on Mar 1, 2007 19:01:46 GMT -5
unfortunately, the NIRSA rankings aren't like the ESPN Today/AP Poll where they come out on time ALL the time. It wouldn't surprise me if rankings weren't posted until next week...it has happened before
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Post by zip15 on Mar 1, 2007 19:13:39 GMT -5
kinda what i figured, but just checking
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Post by gobears on Mar 1, 2007 21:28:30 GMT -5
Far as I know the commissioners get on the phone to sort out their rankings, maybe by exchanging rankings from their area first by email , and then the phone helps mesh the rankings. At least I know the commish out here last time said she was on the phone about it.
I imagine the delay is that one commish or so has not been reached yet.
Final posting last year came from out east person. Don't know if he is in charge of final posting or not this year.
There are a ton of matches out here this weekend and I assume elsewhere. I hope they are not waiting for Monday, as it will take a bunch more time to figure out changes.
The Feb 1 rankings were done well before Feb 1.
UCLA is very good. btw. They just have no bench basically.
Remains to be seen how that affects how they do on Day 3 of Nationals.
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Post by Durian on Mar 2, 2007 15:53:31 GMT -5
Still not up.
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Post by widsmith on Mar 5, 2007 20:09:16 GMT -5
WE HAVE RANKINGS!!!! And they get weird, very quick. LOL www.nirsa.org/sports/volleyball/sport_club/2007/rankings/md1.aspx#_070301This is what I thought: 1. Oshkosh (No Doubt) 2. Arizona (Wish they would have played an Illinois or Lakeland to really gauge by UCF match said plenty. 3. Illinois 4. Lakeland 5. UC Davis (Far Western Winner) 6. Cal- Berkeley (Far Western Runner-UP, NCCVL Leader) 7. Central Florida ( Great Showing at HI- but took two losses, to Oshkosh and Arizona) 8. UCLA 9. Cal- Poly ( Far Western 3rd Place, 2nd in NCCVL) 10 Maryland 11.Ohio State (HI Semi-Finalist, 4th in Big Tens though?  ) 12. Notre Dame ( Won Pool By Beating Ohio State, Then ran into the buzzsaw of Arizona and then Oshkosh, WOW) 13. Colorado (HI GOLD, Won Pool, 2 losses Illinois and Central Florida) 14. Utah Valley State ( Will rebound after Far Westerns) 15. Santa Clara 16. Penn State 17. Michigan State ( Loss in Pool Play at HI, Won Crossover, Lost to Navy, 2nd at Big Tens) 18. Virginia Tech 19Texas A&M (Beat Indiana, Lost to Baldwin-Wallace, Lost To Lakeland, Lost to Ohio State) 20. Wisconsin ( To be fair, they just didnt show up at HI, but very good at Big Tens) 21. Navy (1-2 in Pool Play at HI, Won Crossover, Then beat Michigan State in Gold Bracket.) 22. Dayton 23. Northern Illinois (OK at Midwest 10, Gold at HI) 24. Fresno State ( Losses to Cal Poly II and Sac St.) 25. Marquette (Winning Silver at HI Keeps them in Top 25) And this is What it Actually is 1. UW-Oshkosh 2.Arizona 3. Illinois 4. Lakeland 5. UC Davis 6. Notre Dame 7. Central Florida 8. UC Berkeley 9. UCLA 10. Maryland 11. Cal Poly-SLO 12. Virginia Tech 13. Colorado 14. Ohio State 15. Navy 16. Michigan State 17. Wisconsin 18. Texas A & M 19. Santa Clara 20. Penn State 21. Marquette 22. TIE Loyola Marymount UC-San Diego Boston College 25. TIE Utah Valley State Georgia Northeastern San Diego State Honorable Mention (alphabetically): * Army * Dayton * Delaware * Illinois State * Indiana * Iowa State * James Madison * Miami U * Missouri * Northern Illinois |
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Post by yeahvolleyball on Mar 5, 2007 20:12:39 GMT -5
Someone please explain to me the point of having a 3 way tie for 22nd and a 4 way tie for 25th....then having 10 honorable mentions.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by scmb19 on Mar 5, 2007 20:18:41 GMT -5
I think the point is to just prove that everyone is so close. For instance, Santa Clara has already beaten both UC Davis and UC Berkeley this season, but lost to San Jose St, Sac St. and Cal Poly. I think this years rankings are almost pointless because anybody can beat anybody. No one is an extemely dominate team. Should make for some interesting Nationals though. Vegas in 2 weeks will help to clear up quite a bit. There are a lot of teams for everywhere coming to that tournament.
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Post by widsmith on Mar 5, 2007 20:22:35 GMT -5
I have no idea the reason for ties, nor do I understand some of the rankings. I will say that Notre Dame got some hella love in these rankings. I guess Zip knew something about them I didnt, lol. I did pretty good on most of the others.
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Post by jas1vans on Mar 5, 2007 22:20:41 GMT -5
Will, you want to help me fill out my NCAA brackets? I'll cut you in for half the profits.
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Post by ndbouncebounce on Mar 5, 2007 22:37:19 GMT -5
I was afraid they were going to take our bribe without doing their part of the deal. What a relief.
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Post by zip15 on Mar 6, 2007 0:55:11 GMT -5
Your predictions are pretty close with the exception of a few teams, like Notre Dame, Utah Valley State, Virginia Tech and maybe Navy. Virginia Tech, Navy and Notre Dame were obviously big winners, all getting big jumps. In Navy and Virginia Techs case, apparently winning over Michigan State counts for a lot, and the win over OSU big for Notre Dame. Utah Valley State dropped a long way for having a 'bad tournament', but interestingly Wisconsin didn't drop nearly that far after having an awful tournament at the HI. Also, Notre Dame got rewarded for taking care of teams 'worse' then them and losing to teams that are 'better' then them, but Colorado did not. Colorado lost to UCF and Illinois but took care of their pool, and just had a bad draw.
Penn State dropped a long way (17 spots), and rightly so if their outside is gone for good. If he just missed this tournament and will be back, their far better then a 20th seed.
The other point about how everything is very close all over and anyone can beat anyone. However, the rankings are still very meaningful because of how things play out at nationals. In the case of ND and VT, they both beat 10-20 ranked teams lost to top ranked teams. VT also lost to Wright State, but that might have been ignored because Wright State is USAV like IU#### said. It appears they aren't penalizing teams for losing to Oshkosh/Arizona/Illinois and even UCF. The difference between a few seeds can be the difference between a high 2/3 or low 2/3 seed in a power pool, which can turn into the difference playing the 1st-2nd team in the nation or the 6-7th best team in the nation, needing a win to advance. I'll take my chances avoiding the top 3-4 if i have my choice.
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Post by peluche on Mar 6, 2007 1:34:14 GMT -5
Yo Will you got that Sauce...haha ;D
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Post by widsmith on Mar 6, 2007 8:56:58 GMT -5
Hey Jason, I got you on your bracket choices, holla at me. On the flip side, ND's bribe did work I see, lol. Gotta love the midwest love. And it was rumored that the Penn State outside would not return, but again RUMOR! And NO NO NO NO, Peluche, You definitely got that Sauce, I just want to be like you.
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Post by sdvb13 on Mar 7, 2007 1:47:41 GMT -5
Got some results from a couple matches in SD. From what I heard, last week SDSU absolutely dominated USD (University of San Diego). Don't know if it's true, but I heard that USD was missing their starting setter and libero from that game. The two played again today and my sources tell me it was an extremely exciting one. SDSU took it in 5, 30-28, 30-27, 31-33, 28-30, 16-14. Don't know how this close of a game might affect their ranking, but we'll have to see. I know UCSD played SDSU last week, but I haven't been able to find out from anyone who won or what the scores were.
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