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Post by trojansc on Nov 20, 2012 19:31:35 GMT -5
The committee looks right at the rpi and those 10 teams right on the bubble line. Historically though they have not taken the teams in order every year. A team at 50 has jumped a team at 47 for example. Even teams at 58 jumping ahead into an at large bid. The reason is because of closer examination of the wins. A team with 5 top 50 wins looks good but if they were all in the 30-50 range and the team witha lower rpi won 3 top 50 but those were in the 5-25 range then they could leap. Right now Santa Clara is the last team in but I can see a few potential teams leaping over like Northwestern or Baylor. Also because they don't have any bad losses. Baylor's 62 Pablo Rank, Loss to 111 RPI North Texas should probably keep them out. I would be much more optimistic if their RPI was in the 40's. Northwestern on the other hand hasn't lost many bad games. They have three wins to sit on: Michigan, Michigan State, and Marquette, and their RPI sits in a good range at 47. I could see the committee giving them a bid before Baylor. And Northwestern's 3 wins are in the 30-50 RPI range.. Not sure who you were referring to with three in the 5-25 range. |
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Post by PTW winner on Nov 20, 2012 21:49:54 GMT -5
I thought NWestern had a top 20 win. Baylor beat #6 rpi team which will get the committee's eye and swept Cal and USF. Looking at their losses all are in the top 30 but that 1. They probably will be outside the bubble but I have seem similar teams in the Big 3 conferences leap other smaller type schools.
It will be interesting to see if Pablo will be used at all. I hear it won't.
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Post by diggerdive on Nov 21, 2012 0:01:08 GMT -5
Oh gosh, I would kill for Minnesota to be in that Austin regional with Kansas and Texas! Unfortunately, I do end up seeing us in the same regional as Penn State...  I'd love for Texas to play Minnesota and Kansas again! My thoughts also! |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 21, 2012 0:07:59 GMT -5
I'd love for Texas to play Minnesota and Kansas again! My thoughts also! so Texas can get an easy path to the final four....yeah right. Stick a Pac-12 team in that regional. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2012 8:09:56 GMT -5
I think Oregon's secured itself a 4/5 seed in Omaha with the sweep of UCLA last night.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Nov 21, 2012 9:53:49 GMT -5
so Texas can get an easy path to the final four....yeah right. Stick a Pac-12 team in that regional. I'd love to play against Washington. Hopefully Strickland will be playing front row so our hitters can continually hit over her block. |
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Nov 21, 2012 10:05:02 GMT -5
I think Oregon's secured itself a 4/5 seed in Omaha with the sweep of UCLA last night. Does the committee continue to look at games played through this week to determine seeding? I recall someone saying to the effect otherwise. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2012 10:36:43 GMT -5
I think Oregon's secured itself a 4/5 seed in Omaha with the sweep of UCLA last night. Does the committee continue to look at games played through this week to determine seeding? I recall someone saying to the effect otherwise. It's pretty clear that they don't look at updated RPI/poll numbers. However, they will lookat _significant_ results over the last week. So if a seeded or bubble team takes a big upset, they wil drop them quite a few rungs or out (interestingly, these adjustments can _overcompensate_ from what the computers would do, because one loss will have a subtle impact on a full season's RPI but will drop a team quite a bit in a poll). Big wins can have a similar effect. |
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Post by Incognito on Nov 21, 2012 11:33:51 GMT -5
so Texas can get an easy path to the final four....yeah right. Stick a Pac-12 team in that regional. I'd love to play against Washington. Hopefully Strickland will be playing front row so our hitters can continually hit over her block. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 21, 2012 14:05:43 GMT -5
so Texas can get an easy path to the final four....yeah right. Stick a Pac-12 team in that regional. I'd love to play against Washington. Hopefully Strickland will be playing front row so our hitters can continually hit over her block. well I'm sure plenty of Texas players can hit over Strickland but on the whole I would think that playing a team like Washington would be potential nightmare for Texas. First and foremost Washington's two biggest strengths are things Texas can struggle dealing with. UW doesn't just serve the ball in the court they go for immediate service pressure on just about every serve, and when they have a good serving match they can make even the best teams look like fools out there (see the Stanford match in sets 1 and 3). Also UW has a good block, despite the height of Strickland. UW has shown throughout the season that it can put up a wall, especially against LS hitters. Add to this the Texas defense being nowhere near the quality UW has faced against teams like Oregon, Stanford, and UCLA and the fact that UW's offense is less potent than Texas becomes more neutralized. I think a Texas/UW match would be far more of a toss up then you seemingly make it out to be. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 21, 2012 14:18:01 GMT -5
I'd love to play against Washington. Hopefully Strickland will be playing front row so our hitters can continually hit over her block. well I'm sure plenty of Texas players can hit over Strickland but on the whole I would think that playing a team like Washington would be potential nightmare for Texas. First and foremost Washington's two biggest strengths are things Texas can struggle dealing with. UW doesn't just serve the ball in the court they go for immediate service pressure on just about every serve, and when they have a good serving match they can make even the best teams look like fools out there (see the Stanford match in sets 1 and 3). Also UW has a good block, despite the height of Strickland. UW has shown throughout the season that it can put up a wall, especially against LS hitters. Add to this the Texas defense being nowhere near the quality UW has faced against teams like Oregon, Stanford, and UCLA and the fact that UW's offense is less potent than Texas becomes more neutralized. I think a Texas/UW match would be far more of a toss up then you seemingly make it out to be. I'd put it in the realm of toss-up on a neutral court, but the match-up would be in Austin, and UW hasn't beaten a seed-quality opponent in a true road map in maybe 3-4 years. For this reason, I think UW would be really happy to end up in West Lafayette or Berkeley. (And also for this reason, they've gotta be really excited about 2013 & 2014 tourneys). |
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Post by fanofvolley on Nov 21, 2012 14:23:06 GMT -5
Hopefully if ISU beats Texas this Saturday they will get a chance to host. I believe they are around 18 for RPI so that win should get them in range.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 21, 2012 14:39:58 GMT -5
Hopefully if ISU beats Texas this Saturday they will get a chance to host. I believe they are around 18 for RPI so that win should get them in range. the latest rpi has them at 23. It wouldn't necessarily be the 1 win over Texas to get them into the top 16 or so rpi (one win doesn't have that kind of effect), put perhaps folding Texas back into Iowa State's opponent win/loss column could have a big effect. In anycase Iowa State's rpi probably won't be in the top 16 even with a win over Texas, BUT their nitty gritty gets a huge boost, especially against the other seed contenders like a second SEC team or 4th big 10 team. |
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Post by redincolorado on Nov 21, 2012 15:52:48 GMT -5
I just hope Nebraska DOES end up in the Omaha regional.
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Post by capita'L'ove on Nov 21, 2012 16:14:52 GMT -5
I was just trying to do some work on the sub-regionals. It will be interesting to see how the committee will work things. My seeds are heavily located in the mid-west and west coast while most of the automatic qualifiers are located on the east coast. It could be that the east coast seeds may have a pretty easy time of it in rounds 1&2 while the west coast teams could have some tough match-ups. OR and USC loses to Oregon State and UCLA respectively; NC State beats NC; TX>ISU. USC gets the #4 overall seed into Nebraska (despite). 'trojansc', A: "The WCC"...too many bids. Pepperdine will be the final team in with BYU, San Diego and St. Mary's. The ACC, SEC, and Big12 are all under represented... NC State is in (I think regardless) along with one other team in Clemson. Missouri Baylor *All in* Yes to Notre Dame, San Diego St., Wichita St., Northern Iowa, the AZ schools but NOT CA.  --- UH ends up travelling to a subregional in Los Angeles ( BeiBei). --- BERKELEY Reg.#2 Stanford (2nd), #7 Oregon (T3rd), #10 Washington (1st), #15 BYU (T3rd) |
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