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Post by bucky415 on Apr 13, 2013 0:59:29 GMT -5
Even less volleyball? Great idea. Who would actually want to watch more of it? Apparently no one, given what happened with the gold medal match in the Olympics. I hope this doesn't catch on at all.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Apr 13, 2013 13:24:54 GMT -5
It's funny how so many people here gripe about the FIVB changing the rules, and yet so many people here are supportive of NCAA rule changes which allow a ridiculous number of subs per match.
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Post by alantech on Apr 13, 2013 14:14:20 GMT -5
Would all five games be to 21 (as opposed to Game 5 being to 15)?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 14:21:30 GMT -5
It's funny how so many people here gripe about the FIVB changing the rules, and yet so many people here are supportive of NCAA rule changes which allow a ridiculous number of subs per match. There's a lot of support for NCAA rule changes? I think the common theme is that people would like to see the sport left alone for a while. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 13, 2013 15:11:03 GMT -5
rally score is certainly more of a wild-card, so yes you do see more upsets. Overall, regardless of scoring the better teams wins most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 15:13:29 GMT -5
Most of the time? Well, yes. That's kind of the way sports work.  (And happy birthday.) |
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Post by alexsi on Apr 13, 2013 20:10:10 GMT -5
I'm mostly baffled that FIVB keeps changing the rules so often. What problem do they think they are fixing? It's already a grand sport thank you, just leave it alone and let us have fun playing/coaching/cheering!!!
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Post by rook on Apr 22, 2013 21:31:10 GMT -5
The amount of subs is the problem with tv viewing. No one understands who can go in for who or why, because they are so used to basketball rules. Go to the international standard of six subs in a set, force players to play all the way around and coaches to have to make some tough decisions....that would help some.
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Post by thenetset on Apr 22, 2013 21:39:18 GMT -5
Just heard that the FIBB was going to change the amount of innings played down to seven with just needing two strikes to get a strikeout and only three balls to get a Base on Balls. Just doing it so people don't fall asleep! Estrella IBAF, and there actually are leagues that play under just such rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 21:46:30 GMT -5
The amount of subs is the problem with tv viewing. No one understands who can go in for who or why, because they are so used to basketball rules. Go to the international standard of six subs in a set, force players to play all the way around and coaches to have to make some tough decisions....that would help some. I don't understand this. What other sport limits their subs? Baseball, I suppose, but just in terms of re-entry. Anything like six subs per game, 1 re-entry, is not something you see in any other sport. |
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Post by thenetset on Apr 22, 2013 21:46:59 GMT -5
The amount of subs is the problem with tv viewing. No one understands who can go in for who or why, because they are so used to basketball rules. Go to the international standard of six subs in a set, force players to play all the way around and coaches to have to make some tough decisions....that would help some. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but aren't subs in the NCAA women's game basically like basketball now (with the exception of a quota of any kind)? Anyone can sub in for anyone at any time, other than the libero. It's NCAA men's and international where subs are more complicated. Remember in the BYU/Stanford match a couple months ago, even BYU's coaches didn't really remember the rules offhand at one point and wound up giving Stanford 2 free points. So I'm not really sure what you mean by your comment. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2013 21:50:44 GMT -5
Just heard that the FIBB was going to change the amount of innings played down to seven with just needing two strikes to get a strikeout and only three balls to get a Base on Balls. Just doing it so people don't fall asleep! Estrella IBAF, and there actually are leagues that play under just such rules. I have played softball under exactly those rules (start the at-bat with a 1-1 count). In softball, anyway, it gives a huge advantage to the pitcher. If you take just one close pitch then suddenly you have to "swing at anything close." Whereas the pitcher gets two chances to pitch balls before he has to try to get one in there for a strike. |
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Post by rook on Apr 22, 2013 22:15:29 GMT -5
The amount of subs is the problem with tv viewing. No one understands who can go in for who or why, because they are so used to basketball rules. Go to the international standard of six subs in a set, force players to play all the way around and coaches to have to make some tough decisions....that would help some. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but aren't subs in the NCAA women's game basically like basketball now (with the exception of a quota of any kind)? Anyone can sub in for anyone at any time, other than the libero. It's NCAA men's and international where subs are more complicated. Remember in the BYU/Stanford match a couple months ago, even BYU's coaches didn't really remember the rules offhand at one point and wound up giving Stanford 2 free points. So I'm not really sure what you mean by your comment. Simply mean that you can't start at one spot in the rotation and then sub in for another spot in the rotation. I'd still allow for re-entry, but we are losing the all-around player in favor of providing "more opportunity" with the new sub rules. I'd argue that this makes the game less interesting. Use basketball as an example...Why do/did people love watching Lebron James, or Michael Jordan, or Magic Johnson? They could do pretty much everything. I know this is unrelated to this post, but it also makes coaching pretty boring! |
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Post by kro2488 on Apr 22, 2013 23:35:52 GMT -5
I'm still wondering about the logic behind this rule change. I love and understand the logic of eliminating overhead serve reception but not this move. Anyone find anything on official releases? If anything the sport needs longer matches now, even a five set match does not last that long compared to most other sports action on tv. People like to be entertained for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 0:12:00 GMT -5
It's funny how so many people here gripe about the FIVB changing the rules, and yet so many people here are supportive of NCAA rule changes which allow a ridiculous number of subs per match. The NCAA is about giving kids opportunities to play the sport. That isn't the goal of the FIVB. |
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