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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 1, 2014 13:39:02 GMT -5
Ok, I know, I know, the ball will roll into the ocean....But, without that constraint, which many beaches don't hav, why DON'T courts face into the "scenery"? Unless the ocean is less than a couple of hundred feet away, why not give that "view" while you serve by facing the courts into the ocean ? I've setup portables that way and it is a nice change from the normal "parallel" setup to the shore. Nice to see the waves while your opponents are "icing" you on their "timeout" to clean their glasses at 20-19!
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Post by Coach John on Jan 1, 2014 13:56:44 GMT -5
I'd suggest that on-shore/off-shore winds may also be a factor.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 1, 2014 16:22:23 GMT -5
Most beaches are longer than they are wide, so you can fit more courts in running parallel to the ocean, and there is less of a slope. Also, both teams playing in a cross-wind is fairer than switching off playing in a 12-knot headwind/tailwind, which would really tilt the good side/bad side equation. Plus, nobody wants wet balls. So to speak.
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Post by Semp12 on Jan 2, 2014 13:44:23 GMT -5
There are some beaches in Long Island that set up facing the water. The beach is wide enough that the ocean is not an issue. The boardwalk is very high, so it provides some cover.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 3, 2014 18:53:15 GMT -5
There are some beaches in Long Island that set up facing the water. The beach is wide enough that the ocean is not an issue. The boardwalk is very high, so it provides some cover. I remember seeing some courts like that on the East Coast. Just looked weird to me.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 3, 2014 19:32:30 GMT -5
I hear ya GLM, but the view, while you wait for the "whistle" is worth it!
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Post by hammer on Jan 3, 2014 20:38:07 GMT -5
At Corona del Mar we used to play on a court that faced the ocean … but winds were usually very light and the beach was very deep. But most I've played on in SoCal and a few in NorCal parallel the beach. I always assumed it was mostly a wind issue because usually courts were set far enough away from the water that balls rolling into the waves was a very low probability.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 3, 2014 20:52:32 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused on the wind issue. Court alignment affects wind direction, is side-to-side wind considered "bad"? I think the behind/front wind makes for more severe conditions of play (VERY good side, VERY bad side), versus the conditions you'd find with side to side wind (In S. Cruz, wind is virtually always behind you or in front/but Santa Cruz is actually in a bay (Monterey), not just "on the coast"...
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Post by downtheline on Jan 4, 2014 12:23:10 GMT -5
During the Long Beach Fivb the courts faced the water . It all depends on location , sizing, and prevailing winds.
Regardless of position that beach is a dusty, dirty venue .
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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 4, 2014 19:38:59 GMT -5
I guess that takes us back to: What do the pro's like / or amateurs, to minimize the effect of wind: behind/front or side/side...I pref side to side if I'm trying to lessen the negative impact to ball control, but is that a consensus?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 4, 2014 20:21:43 GMT -5
During the Long Beach Fivb the courts faced the water . It all depends on location , sizing, and prevailing winds. Regardless of position that beach is a dusty, dirty venue . That was actually a screwup by the city of Long Beach. They were supposed to build the courts parallel to the beach, but something got mixed up between the planning and the construction.
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Post by rockhopper on Jan 6, 2014 20:16:19 GMT -5
If you want the good view during a timeout, just turn and look at the good view while your opponent cleans their glasses.
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Post by fdc on Jan 16, 2014 12:03:54 GMT -5
I guess that takes us back to: What do the pro's like / or amateurs, to minimize the effect of wind: behind/front or side/side...I pref side to side if I'm trying to lessen the negative impact to ball control, but is that a consensus? I agree with this I have lived beach front on the east coast and would guess the wind typically blows more parallel with the beach than it does perpendicular (at least where I have lived). I would actually guess courts are traditionally faced perpendicular more because of elevation reasons than wind related reasons.
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Post by tinman2 on Jan 21, 2014 21:01:13 GMT -5
In Florida you would be staring right into the sun in the morning. In California you would be staring into the sun in the late afternoon...and has already been mentioned, narrow beaches, and wet balls are a problem. So I'll sum it up for you....there really is no good reason to set a court up facing the water.
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Post by volleyballjim on Jan 21, 2014 22:40:33 GMT -5
Actually, in Santa Cruz, the sun (since it is in Monterey Bay and not a "traditional coastline" locale) sets where you view it in the late afternoons (with the courts parallel to the ocean)....SO, I think it just "looks better" parallel rather than it being "resource based" like trying to setup wind patterns or sun setting arrangements...What else is new....
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