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Post by GoUCLA on May 4, 2014 8:30:56 GMT -5
Is there an individual team championship (one pair) and an overall team championship? (by school) If so can players change their partners for the individual championship? So if Peppperdine had the two best players could they split them for the school national championship and then reunited them for the pairs? No, you can't switch players around for the pairs championship. |
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Post by guest2 on May 4, 2014 9:46:15 GMT -5
Does that cause problems with the players, or do most coaches put their two best players together? I imagine if I were the best player, but lost the national championship because my coach paired me with less than the best available, I would be very angry. It seems like an interesting issue that could create conflicts between coaches and players
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2014 11:03:11 GMT -5
Did the wind bother USC? Some rave about their facilities, but there are virtually no wind or sun factors there. Their worst loss was at Zuma where there is always wind. Geddy, was that a factor?Also, did FSU have a lot of crowd support? Thanks. Personally, I think think wind was definitely an issue. Not sure the USC coaches would agree with me. There were a lot of folks in FSU gear, for sure. Although I don't think it got to the point where you could say FSU had a home court advantage. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 4, 2014 13:57:11 GMT -5
Cooks and tiegs vs burnham and Hughes for the finals. Larson woolever were upset in the quarters by lmu! Go bows!
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Post by socalsurf on May 4, 2014 14:54:44 GMT -5
AVCA National Coach of the Year: Anna Collier (USC)
AVCA First Team All-Americans:
Kirby Burnham (USC)
Sara Hughes (USC)
Betsi Metter (LMU)
Litara Keil (LMU)
Kelley Larsen (PEPP)
Kellie Woolever (PEPP)
Lara Dykstra (PEPP)
Becca Strehlow (PEPP)
Brittany Tiegs (UH)
Karissa Cook (UH)
Katie Speiler (UH)
Nikki Taylor (UH)
Marcela Araya (ULM)
Zuzana Markova (ULM)
Jace Pardon (FSU)
Aurora Davis (FSU)
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 4, 2014 14:59:51 GMT -5
AVCA National Coach of the Year: Anna Collier (USC) AVCA First Team All-Americans: Kirby Burnham (USC) Sara Hughes (USC) Betsi Metter (LMU) Litara Keil (LMU) Kelley Larsen (PEPP) Kellie Woolever (PEPP) Lara Dykstra (PEPP) Becca Strehlow (PEPP) Brittany Tiegs (UH) Karissa Cook (UH) Katie Speiler (UH) Nikki Taylor (UH) Marcela Araya (ULM) Zuzana Markova (ULM) Jace Pardon (FSU) Aurora Davis (FSU) thanks for this! |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2014 15:02:08 GMT -5
USC beats Hawai'i easily in the final. 2nd game was something like 18-8 at one point. Lots of unforced errors by Hawaii. Too bad, because they played very well every day until that last match. So Burnham-Hughes are your national champs.
Now it's off to the bar...
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Post by socalsurf on May 4, 2014 15:10:04 GMT -5
No problem! Also worth noting, Sara Hughes (USC) and Nikki Taylor (UH are the only freshmen on the All American team. Congrats to all!
Looks like it was a great day for the pairs tournament and a great crowd showed up as well. And yup, Burnham/Hughes of USC defeated Cooks/Tiegs of Hawaii pretty soundly in the final, 21-15, 21-13. Burnham put up a huge wall and Hughes had some amazing digs. She'll be exciting to watch for the next three years to come. The senior Burnham wins her second consecutive AVCA National Pairs Title, last year with Stevi Robinson and this year with the freshman Hughes. Congrats to the Trojan duo! If you wanted to watch, CBS Sports Network will replay this pairs championship match on May 26th.
In the pairs bracket Quarterfinals:
Keil/Metter (LMU) def. Larsen/Woolever (PEPP) 21-18, 12-21, 15-13
Burnham/Hughes (USC) def. Speiler/Taylor (UH) 21-19, 21-17
Cook/Tiegs (UH) def. Dykstra/Strehlow (PEPP) 19-21, 21-13, 15-13
Pardon/Davis (FSU) def. Araya/Markova (ULM) 21-8, 21-15
Pairs bracket Semifinals:
Burnham/Hughes (USC) def. Keil/Metter (LMU) 21-19, 21-15
Cook/Tiegs (UH) def. Pardon/Davis (FSU) 21-18, 21-16
Pairs bracket Final:
Burnham/Hughes (USC) def. Cook/Tiegs (UH) 21-15, 21-13
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 4, 2014 15:15:33 GMT -5
Are All-Americans just the pairs who made the Quarters?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2014 15:28:34 GMT -5
Are All-Americans just the pairs who made the Quarters? It's voted on before the pairs competition, I think, but perhaps that has been changed. And it's been an absolutely beautiful day for the finals. Not a cloud in the sky, mid-70's, wind coming up the beach from the west at probably 5MPH or so. Very good crowd, it seemed to me, although I'm no expert in counting attendance. Just a really well-run event. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2014 15:38:39 GMT -5
It's a legit question. USC trains and plays the majority of their time in near-zero wind. Pepp trains and plays at Zuma, where there is almost always a breeze coming off the Pacific. And the ability to play in gusty winds was definitely a factor this weekend in Gulf Shores. BTW, UCLA is going to be a force in the next few seasons - they have some serious talent coming in: Muno, Ivie Schmitt, the McNamara twins, Elise Zappia, Izzy Carey, and they have a great shot at getting Kathryn Plummer (a 6'5" setter/RS who also a damn good beach player). I heard Plummer was looking at Pepp and Hawaii too? Geddy any more Karissa Cook's next year? By that I mean any indoor scholarship players transferring to go on sand scholie their fifth year? The only names I've heard are Kaitlyn Leary (very good OH at Ohio State) transferring to Arizona for sand and Sammie Brown (a good beach player from SoCal) going from Notre Dame to Hawaii. |
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Post by gothopps on May 4, 2014 17:22:05 GMT -5
USC beats Hawai'i easily in the final. 2nd game was something like 18-8 at one point. Lots of unforced errors by Hawaii. Too bad, because they played very well every day until that last match. So Burnham-Hughes are your national champs. Now it's off to the bar... Getty, I have a lot of respect for your opinions on this board. But here, I beg to differ. Pepperdine are your national champions in sand volleyball. It's unfortunate that we choose to give two national championships in this sport. This needs to be a "university" sport for the NCAA to promote . Pepperdine as a team won the national championship. Period. I like both Burnham and Hughes and respect them as players, but to call them or crown them as "national champs" over the university that came and won as a university is like saying that the NCAA basketball championship is second to some two-on-two games that were played afterward. It also belittles the title of national champions... both schools get national championship bragging rights? How can that be? How can there be two national champions is the same sport? So should the universities just focus on using their six scholarships to get two great players? If so, why 6 scholarships. We need to clean this up or the sport won't be taken seriously. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 4, 2014 17:27:28 GMT -5
USC beats Hawai'i easily in the final. 2nd game was something like 18-8 at one point. Lots of unforced errors by Hawaii. Too bad, because they played very well every day until that last match. So Burnham-Hughes are your national champs. Now it's off to the bar... Getty, I have a lot of respect for your opinions on this board. But here, I beg to differ. Pepperdine are your national champions in sand volleyball. It's unfortunate that we choose to give two national championships in this sport. This needs to be a "university" sport for the NCAA to promote . Pepperdine as a team won the national championship. Period. I like both Burnham and Hughes and respect them as players, but to call them or crown them as "national champs" over the university that came and won as a university is like saying that the NCAA basketball championship is second to some two-on-two games that were played afterward. It also belittles the title of national champions... both schools get national championship bragging rights? How can that be? How can there be two national champions is the same sport? So should the universities just focus on using their six scholarships to get two great players? If so, why 6 scholarships. We need to clean this up or the sport won't be taken seriously. Ummm track awards team national champions, as well as 30+ individual national champions. Same as wrestling, tennis, etc. |
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Post by GoUCLA on May 4, 2014 17:35:01 GMT -5
Getty, I have a lot of respect for your opinions on this board. But here, I beg to differ. Pepperdine are your national champions in sand volleyball. It's unfortunate that we choose to give two national championships in this sport. This needs to be a "university" sport for the NCAA to promote . Pepperdine as a team won the national championship. Period. I like both Burnham and Hughes and respect them as players, but to call them or crown them as "national champs" over the university that came and won as a university is like saying that the NCAA basketball championship is second to some two-on-two games that were played afterward. It also belittles the title of national champions... both schools get national championship bragging rights? How can that be? How can there be two national champions is the same sport? So should the universities just focus on using their six scholarships to get two great players? If so, why 6 scholarships. We need to clean this up or the sport won't be taken seriously. Ummm track awards team national champions, as well as 30+ individual national champions. Same as wrestling, tennis, etc. Yeah, I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. Pepperdine won the team national championship. Burnham/Hughes won the pairs national championship. Like candlelight mentioned, there are several sports that have a team championship as well as individual championships. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on May 4, 2014 17:39:47 GMT -5
USC beats Hawai'i easily in the final. 2nd game was something like 18-8 at one point. Lots of unforced errors by Hawaii. Too bad, because they played very well every day until that last match. So Burnham-Hughes are your national champs. Now it's off to the bar... Getty, I have a lot of respect for your opinions on this board. But here, I beg to differ. Pepperdine are your national champions in sand volleyball. It's unfortunate that we choose to give two national championships in this sport. This needs to be a "university" sport for the NCAA to promote . Pepperdine as a team won the national championship. Period. I like both Burnham and Hughes and respect them as players, but to call them or crown them as "national champs" over the university that came and won as a university is like saying that the NCAA basketball championship is second to some two-on-two games that were played afterward. It also belittles the title of national champions... both schools get national championship bragging rights? How can that be? How can there be two national champions is the same sport? So should the universities just focus on using their six scholarships to get two great players? If so, why 6 scholarships. We need to clean this up or the sport won't be taken seriously. Pepperdine is of course a well-deserved national champion of the team competition, and Burnham/Hughes equally well deserved pairs national champions - and that's completely fine with me. I personally don't think there needs to be any changes to the format. The NCAA awards team and individual champions in tennis, golf, swimming, wrestling, gymnastics, track etc., and I don't see beach volleyball as a different animal. I also don't think having a team and individual competition confuses anyone or cheapens either event. Plus, the players love it, and from a fan perspective it's a great way to finish the three day competition. IMO. |
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