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Post by VBCrusin on Apr 25, 2003 11:42:04 GMT -5
Hey Sweetie... As much as you'd like to see Hawaii get the at-large bid, right now, they have 2 chances...slim & none. If Pep wins, then BYU will get the bid. If BYU beats Pep on Saturday, then Pep will get the bid. In other words, Hawaii (even the great team that they are), is on the outside, looking in (much like UCLA was with the MPSF Tournament). Hey Tigfan...you're a riot (and most of your posts can start one). hahaha. I may not always agree with you, but I defend your right to have MY OPINION!
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Post by tigfan on Apr 25, 2003 15:02:13 GMT -5
Amen Saruman... Can I get a Halleluia?!
I agree, I am a riot... and always remember, everyone is entitled to MY opinion.
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Post by ifly on Apr 25, 2003 18:17:33 GMT -5
I have great respect for Costas and his volleyball skills. However, I am quite disappointed in him. Not because he was limited to 13 kills and a .143 hitting % against BYU. BYU's strategy may have been to neutralize him and they succeeded. He just did not look like the MPSF MVP.
My disappointment is with the comment Costas made after he received the MVP award:
"....Theocharidis told a well-wisher, "Thanks, man," and then went about his business. "It's nice, but who cares about it?" said Theocharidis, a 6-foot-3 senior from Greece. "Nobody cares about individual goals or awards.....""
"Who cares!" What slap in the face of the MPSF organization and the coaches who give of their time and evaluate and vote with great care to present this award to what they perceive to be the best all-around player. It is an insult to the other great players in this conference who would have very much appreciated and cared for this award while they would have also upheld their commitment to their team.
Ok, so Costas puts the team first, but the words were carelessly chosen. He rudely dismissed a caring gesture of appreciation and hospitality without the courtesy of a thank you, without the Aloha spirit.
Awards are also celebrations of the sport itself. They serve as motivation for the up and coming, the next generation. Dismissing an award as insignificant dismisses the significance and the spirit of the sport itself and that of individual achievements. Volleyball needs to celebrate to succeed.
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Post by sweetieVBfan on Apr 25, 2003 19:47:53 GMT -5
i don't think he meant that he didn't care. i'm sure he meant that he was looking ahead to another NCAA crown.
vb, yeah i know. i'm just wishing and hoping that lisa love is on the selection committee. maybe she'll decided that since hawaii lost to usc in the women's spring exhibition, they'll get the at-large. but i'm just upset.
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Post by roy on Apr 25, 2003 20:02:08 GMT -5
I have great respect for Costas and his volleyball skills. However, I am quite disappointed in him. Not because he was limited to 13 kills and a .143 hitting % against BYU. BYU's strategy may have been to neutralize him and they succeeded. He just did not look like the MPSF MVP. My disappointment is with the comment Costas made after he received the MVP award: "....Theocharidis told a well-wisher, "Thanks, man," and then went about his business. "It's nice, but who cares about it?" said Theocharidis, a 6-foot-3 senior from Greece. "Nobody cares about individual goals or awards....."" "Who cares!" What slap in the face of the MPSF organization and the coaches who give of their time and evaluate and vote with great care to present this award to what they perceive to be the best all-around player. It is an insult to the other great players in this conference who would have very much appreciated and cared for this award while they would have also upheld their commitment to their team. Ok, so Costas puts the team first, but the words were carelessly chosen. He rudely dismissed a caring gesture of appreciation and hospitality without the courtesy of a thank you, without the Aloha spirit. Awards are also celebrations of the sport itself. They serve as motivation for the up and coming, the next generation. Dismissing an award as insignificant dismisses the significance and the spirit of the sport itself and that of individual achievements. Volleyball needs to celebrate to succeed. I agree with Sweetie. A lot of players respond the way Costas did to individual awards. They acknowledge that they received the award but usually don't make a big deal about it because they know that there are higher goals to reach.
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Post by CaliforniaVBfan on Apr 25, 2003 21:31:20 GMT -5
I agree with Sweetie. A lot of players respond the way Costas did to individual awards. They acknowledge that they received the award but usually don't make a big deal about it because they know that there are higher goals to reach. The fact that others act with disrespect does not make it right. It actually makes the point. There is a very fine line between arrogance and humility. Arrogance is when you feel that something offered to you is not good enough or of little value to appreciate because there are better things to be had. In the article and with reference to the MVP award Costas stated: " That's not why we came here" referring to the NCAA aspirations. In contrast, humility is the act of embarrassed appreciation because you think there are others deserving of the honor or perhaps the thought that others are hurting because they did not get it so you don't want to step on their feelings. Under that definition, Costas' thoughtless comments reflect a certain arrogance of aiming for the NCAA playoffs/medal and discarding what he perceives to be a lesser honor. I can think of a lot of other outstanding players who would have genuinely appreciated such a coveted MVP award. I am disappointed that Costas has not honored the MPSF establishment which supported him for four years and that bestowed the biggest honor on him that it has to offer. Politely and enthusiastically accepting a gift is a basic courtesy. It does not preclude to reach for higher goals elsewhere, e.g. NCAA. And, please, I am not suggesting a 10 minute war dance in the center of the Field House. :-), just a simple "thank you." Be supportive of the sport and of those on the outside who try their darnest to keep it going. Look up and see the bigger picture. I am not really trying to beat up on Costas. He is basically a nice guy. I think he made some thoughtless statements. And here starts the obligation of the celebrities to be positive role models. Fame has a price.
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Post by Beachy on Apr 26, 2003 2:29:09 GMT -5
I will not pretend to know what Costas had in mind when he made the comments to the press but I can tell you that the printed word is frequently misinterpeted from the spoken word. Costas may been trying to focus on the next match for Hawaii or maybe not...but regardless, I don't think he should be crucified on this board because of it. The press may have portrayed it inadequately. (not maliciously, just inadequate).
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Post by Ne on Apr 26, 2003 3:20:36 GMT -5
He should have said: Being awarded the MPSF player of the year is a big honor however another trip to the final 4 would have been an exclamation point to my career.
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AsianThug
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Post by AsianThug on Apr 26, 2003 21:00:20 GMT -5
like Beachy i won't pretend to know what Costas had in mind ;D...however, i'm sure he was just trying to water down the fact that he'd made 2000 kills. the impression i got from Costas when he made his 2000th kill was that he wanted to take the focus off him and get on with the game. he seems like the type of person that doesn't want to be in the spotlight as often as he is. then again, that's just the impression that I got. ;D
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