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Post by BadgerAce42 on Jun 18, 2020 16:16:28 GMT -5
I mean, endless riches, if so. If Harper Murray is a given for the Huskers, you'll already have Baby Kubik and Krause, Batenhorst at OPP, Meyer, Gray, and Allick battling it out in the middle, and Orr. C'monnnn! That's not even counting Lauenstein. Maggie keeps telling Cook that she'simprovingfaster than anyoneshe'shad at VCN. She has springs and can absolutely rip the ball. Yessss, love a good home state underdog story and I know Husker fans do, too.
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 18, 2020 16:22:38 GMT -5
That's not even counting Lauenstein. Maggie keeps telling Cook that she'simprovingfaster than anyoneshe'shad at VCN. She has springs and can absolutely rip the ball. Yessss, love a good home state underdog story and I know Husker fans do, too. It's unfortunate that the club season was disrupted. Lauenstein was VCN's best player at NIT. The spring season would have been her chance to earn national recognition.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Jun 18, 2020 16:25:22 GMT -5
Yessss, love a good home state underdog story and I know Husker fans do, too. It's unfortunate that the club season was disrupted. Lauenstein was VCN's best player at NIT. The spring season would have been her chance to earn national recognition.
Excited to see her develop. Totally get the point about asking players to sit for 2 years. Given more parity across all programs, teams could see something like Texas where top targets go elsewhere to start from day 1. I get playing time isn't a given, but 2021 is so monstrous for the Huskers you might see players commit elsewhere and then maybe transfer in for a later season if they really want to be with the program (I get that's a controversial thought).
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Post by Kingsley on Jun 18, 2020 17:55:44 GMT -5
Yessss, love a good home state underdog story and I know Husker fans do, too. It's unfortunate that the club season was disrupted. Lauenstein was VCN's best player at NIT. The spring season would have been her chance to earn national recognition. Agree 100%. Her film from this last club season is a version of Lauenstein that we haven’t seen before. Watch out for her last high school season at Waverly. Sounds like a couple of familiar faces will be transferring over there.
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Post by chisovnik on Jun 19, 2020 0:09:30 GMT -5
Yes... I agree. But a setter with national team goals will want to attend a program with the right training. Hildebrand provides that... plus 3 hours from home.... lots for her to consider. she would still get 2 years running the show. I think she could do well for herself anywhere... but i wouldn't count her out. I think Nya Bunton needs to be Nebraskas #1 for this class. And I think Caroline is another must get at RS... she is too elite to pass up on. I have my reservations on Murray. Her back court needs time. Think Nebraska needs to focus on a RS in this class Swindle would start at Nebraska right now. I have a hard time believing she'd be down to sit that long before she got a chance to play. I hope she goes elsewhere and shines. Jurevicious is awesome, and it makes me happy to see young players training seriously on the right side. Massively underused and overlooked position in the college game. Murray is freshman. She has time to develop her backrow skills. She's an elite attacker, jumps well, great arm, and reminds me of Megan Courtney. She is not 6'2"
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 19, 2020 0:16:36 GMT -5
It's unfortunate that the club season was disrupted. Lauenstein was VCN's best player at NIT. The spring season would have been her chance to earn national recognition.
Excited to see her develop. Totally get the point about asking players to sit for 2 years. Given more parity across all programs, teams could see something like Texas where top targets go elsewhere to start from day 1. I get playing time isn't a given, but 2021 is so monstrous for the Huskers you might see players commit elsewhere and then maybe transfer in for a later season if they really want to be with the program (I get that's a controversial thought).
Zero players in the history of NCAA sports have been asked to sit for two seasons if they were, none would accept that offer.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 19, 2020 1:00:32 GMT -5
Yes... I agree. But a setter with national team goals will want to attend a program with the right training. Hildebrand provides that... plus 3 hours from home.... lots for her to consider. she would still get 2 years running the show. This is where I think the true blue blood programs get a completely unnecessary amount of hype. Choosing between like 3 to 5 schools because someone *THINKS* that doing so will help them become national team members is ridiculous. The national team is going to find talent independent of the school the players go to and Nebraska is hardly the only school where a player can get quality training and reps. The only real constant, especially among the more recent setters, is that these players were generally pegged to be elite players regardless of the school they went to. Among the more recent national team setting corps. Poulter isn't on the national team because Illinois has some magical setter training program. When Carlini went to Wisconsin, that was a program that hadn't even made the NCAA tournament in years. I mean, if anything, the only real star program here is Penn State who has produced multiple national team setting talent recently, 1 of which (Glass) wasn't really a setter prior to college and the other (Hancock) was hardly pegged as an elite setting recruit for her class. Frankly, among the elite programs, Nebraska is noticeably absent when it comes to setters playing for the national team on the traveling teams. This isn't to rag on Nebraska, any player would be lucky to be able to compete in that gym, but it isn't the only gym that can give quality training, far from it, actually. Separately, if your argument is for Hildebrand in particular, that's asking a lot to expect him to even be there in 4 years, let alone 8 years.
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Post by knapplc on Jun 19, 2020 6:43:56 GMT -5
Excited to see her develop. Totally get the point about asking players to sit for 2 years. Given more parity across all programs, teams could see something like Texas where top targets go elsewhere to start from day 1. I get playing time isn't a given, but 2021 is so monstrous for the Huskers you might see players commit elsewhere and then maybe transfer in for a later season if they really want to be with the program (I get that's a controversial thought).
Zero players in the history of NCAA sports have been asked to sit for two seasons if they were, none would accept that offer.
Is this going to be a good analogy? No.
Is it going to be an apt analogy? Probably not.
But I'm going to post it anyway because it's the internet and we're obligated to "well, actually..." everything. And it's fun to talk about that era of Husker Football.
I submit for your consideration: Roger Craig
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Jun 19, 2020 6:49:21 GMT -5
Excited to see her develop. Totally get the point about asking players to sit for 2 years. Given more parity across all programs, teams could see something like Texas where top targets go elsewhere to start from day 1. I get playing time isn't a given, but 2021 is so monstrous for the Huskers you might see players commit elsewhere and then maybe transfer in for a later season if they really want to be with the program (I get that's a controversial thought).
Zero players in the history of NCAA sports have been asked to sit for two seasons if they were, none would accept that offer. Oh, c’mon it’s wording... I’m not implying a recruit is asked to sit, but well aware who they’d be playing behind and competing with for X years.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 19, 2020 10:45:15 GMT -5
Zero players in the history of NCAA sports have been asked to sit for two seasons if they were, none would accept that offer. Oh, c’mon it’s wording... I’m not implying a recruit is asked to sit, but well aware who they’d be playing behind and competing with for X years. I’d submit top athletes don’t think they’ll be playing behind anybody for, two years. The best kids are consistently going to top programs with all Americans in their positions.
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Post by nevollfan on Jun 20, 2020 12:59:23 GMT -5
There are people here who know a lot more about volleyball than me. Kennedi Orr, by most counts, isn’t just your average number one setter in a given class or year. A cut above with very strong national team starting possibilities down the road. Ella Swindle, two years younger, is maybe close to as talented but with aspirations for the national team after college. As an aside, I shake my head at such projection for a fifteen year old let alone a seventeen year old.
I would guess if Ella because of proximity to Lincoln and Nebraska’s national reputation in women’s college volleyball, would pick Nebraska she would do so because of a promise of a two setter system. Now would Kennedi or Ella be ok with that scenario? Would John Cook change his major preference for just a one setter system? Would Ella demonstrate in the fall of 2023 similar ability to earn the part in a two setter system? Nebraska would appear to have the arms on offense to partake in a two-setter system based on paper, right now. Of course things change and the class of 2023 can’t even declare for a school for a year.
My hunch is Ella doesn’t pick Nebraska out of high school unless Nebraska promises a two setter system if she demonstrates ability from the get go. High caliber players, redshirting, in women’s college volleyball and not staring until their fourth season at picked school is very rare. As rare as ocean front property in Nebraska. So i would guess it isn’t happening unless Cook, or probably his successor, has other ideas. That is another variable to possibly consider here.
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Post by rjaege on Jun 20, 2020 13:40:34 GMT -5
There are people here who know a lot more about volleyball than me. Kennedi Orr, by most counts, isn’t just your average number one setter in a given class or year. A cut above with very strong national team starting possibilities down the road. Ella Swindle, two years younger, is maybe close to as talented but with aspirations for the national team after college. As an aside, I shake my head at such projection for a fifteen year old let alone a seventeen year old. I would guess if Ella because of proximity to Lincoln and Nebraska’s national reputation in women’s college volleyball, would pick Nebraska she would do so because of a promise of a two setter system. Now would Kennedi or Ella be ok with that scenario? Would John Cook change his major preference for just a one setter system? Would Ella demonstrate in the fall of 2023 similar ability to earn the part in a two setter system? Nebraska would appear to have the arms on offense to partake in a two-setter system based on paper, right now. Of course things change and the class of 2023 can’t even declare for a school for a year. My hunch is Ella doesn’t pick Nebraska out of high school unless Nebraska promises a two setter system if she demonstrates ability from the get go. High caliber players, redshirting, in women’s college volleyball and not staring until their fourth season at picked school is very rare. As rare as ocean front property in Nebraska. So i would guess it isn’t happening unless Cook, or probably his successor, has other ideas. That is another variable to possibly consider here. How competition between senior Hames and freshman Orr in 2021 works out might answer some questions. It appears that there is some expectations Orr will redshirt her freshman year. Im not sure that will come to pass, but others likely have more insight on that. As for going to a 2 setter system, it seems more likely to me that Cook may continue to use a double sub to get the backup setters some reps, but not a true 2 setter system.
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Post by rassle on Jun 21, 2020 7:39:55 GMT -5
There are people here who know a lot more about volleyball than me. Kennedi Orr, by most counts, isn’t just your average number one setter in a given class or year. A cut above with very strong national team starting possibilities down the road. Ella Swindle, two years younger, is maybe close to as talented but with aspirations for the national team after college. As an aside, I shake my head at such projection for a fifteen year old let alone a seventeen year old. I would guess if Ella because of proximity to Lincoln and Nebraska’s national reputation in women’s college volleyball, would pick Nebraska she would do so because of a promise of a two setter system. Now would Kennedi or Ella be ok with that scenario? Would John Cook change his major preference for just a one setter system? Would Ella demonstrate in the fall of 2023 similar ability to earn the part in a two setter system? Nebraska would appear to have the arms on offense to partake in a two-setter system based on paper, right now. Of course things change and the class of 2023 can’t even declare for a school for a year. My hunch is Ella doesn’t pick Nebraska out of high school unless Nebraska promises a two setter system if she demonstrates ability from the get go. High caliber players, redshirting, in women’s college volleyball and not staring until their fourth season at picked school is very rare. As rare as ocean front property in Nebraska. So i would guess it isn’t happening unless Cook, or probably his successor, has other ideas. That is another variable to possibly consider here. How competition between senior Hames and freshman Orr in 2021 works out might answer some questions. It appears that there is some expectations Orr will redshirt her freshman year. Im not sure that will come to pass, but others likely have more insight on that. As for going to a 2 setter system, it seems more likely to me that Cook may continue to use a double sub to get the backup setters some reps, but not a true 2 setter system. It was decided well over a year ago (might be 2 years now) that Kennedi will redshirt and she knows this.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 22, 2020 0:34:53 GMT -5
How competition between senior Hames and freshman Orr in 2021 works out might answer some questions. It appears that there is some expectations Orr will redshirt her freshman year. Im not sure that will come to pass, but others likely have more insight on that. As for going to a 2 setter system, it seems more likely to me that Cook may continue to use a double sub to get the backup setters some reps, but not a true 2 setter system. It was decided well over a year ago (might be 2 years now) that Kennedi will redshirt and she knows this. I was exiting this and idk how I feel about it, not that it really matter how I feel lol but cook doesn’t strike me as the kind of coach to not put the best 6 on the floor, and it’s very likely imo that Orr will be the best setter in the gym her freshman year
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 22, 2020 6:55:04 GMT -5
How competition between senior Hames and freshman Orr in 2021 works out might answer some questions. It appears that there is some expectations Orr will redshirt her freshman year. Im not sure that will come to pass, but others likely have more insight on that. As for going to a 2 setter system, it seems more likely to me that Cook may continue to use a double sub to get the backup setters some reps, but not a true 2 setter system. It was decided well over a year ago (might be 2 years now) that Kennedi will redshirt and she knows this. While it’s possible Orr could redshirt, there is no way she was told as a HS sophomore she will not get to compete to be the starting setter her freshman year. They may do that. They may have said that was a a scenario they could see, but it makes no sense they’d say she would so far out.
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