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Post by tigerfan5 on Dec 4, 2014 14:08:15 GMT -5
Hey Y'all, new to volleytalk (as a poster) but had to express my surprise that Mississippi State is only offering up to $80,000 for a new coach?! Wasn't the current coach making beyond that $80,000 figure? This from an SEC school that is getting a big influx of money from the SEC Network and is set to complete what is likely it's highest-grossing year in football history. Seems like if they don't realize that they have to put up some coin if they want to attract a top-notch coach.
It is unclear to me what their goals are with respect to volleyball. I expected them to offer $90,000 to $120,000 with this hire. Not many higher-profile assistants or HC's in solid spots will be willing to take the risk the MSU job entails for this amount of money, which is who I expected the administration to want to attract.
I did a little research on the school's performance over time, and was surprised with some of things I found:
Tina Seals (2004-2008; 5 seasons)
overall win percentage: .453
SEC record: 27-65 (.293)
RPI: 136, 116, 107, 127, 264 (avg. RPI: 150)
Jenny Hazelwood (2009-2014; 6 seasons)
overall win percentage: .286
SEC record: 20-96 (.172)
RPI: 196, 179, 142, 235, 155, 233 (avg. RPI: 190)
I had no idea that this program had performed worse, by a significant margin, under the most recent coach than in the 5 years prior. Since 2009, for instance, they haven't had a single year with an RPI as good as the second-worst during the Tina Seals years. Even if you exclude that awful 2012 season where MSU had no conference wins, the Hazelwood years are far worse.
I'm not saying that Coach Hazelwood is necessarily the problem, but what seems clear is that MSU is progressively reducing its resources devoted to, and interest in and support for volleyball at a time when most would expect them to do the opposite, due to an increasing profile of the SEC and MSU.
So where do they go for a new HC? My guess is that they are unlikely to find a coach as passionate and committed to long-term success, as Hazelwood (alum, was in it for long-haul), especially with that low salary. Do they interview the assistant coaches for the job? I quick look at the bios on the website shows that Samantha Wolinski has a lot of experience - maybe she's who they want? The other coach Peter is fairly new...It's a unique part of the country in that local ties probably hurt more than help. I can't help but think they are going to have real rough time with this hire.
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Post by volleytology on Dec 4, 2014 14:16:30 GMT -5
Looks like they updated it to 80-100K Must have been reading volleytalk and seeing all the negative posts about such a low salary. IMO, still pretty low for an SEC Head Coach, but at least it's more attractive than the $60-80 range. Haha, most likely the posting was a cut and paste from the posting when they hired Hazelwood and they forgot to update the salary range |
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Post by rsell01 on Dec 4, 2014 14:19:10 GMT -5
Hey Y'all, new to volleytalk (as a poster) but had to express my surprise that Mississippi State is only offering up to $80,000 for a new coach?! Wasn't the current coach making beyond that $80,000 figure? This from an SEC school that is getting a big influx of money from the SEC Network and is set to complete what is likely it's highest-grossing year in football history. Seems like if they don't realize that they have to put up some coin if they want to attract a top-notch coach. It is unclear to me what their goals are with respect to volleyball. I expected them to offer $90,000 to $120,000 with this hire. Not many higher-profile assistants or HC's in solid spots will be willing to take the risk the MSU job entails for this amount of money, which is who I expected the administration to want to attract. I did a little research on the school's performance over time, and was surprised with some of things I found: Tina Seals (2004-2008; 5 seasons) overall win percentage: .453 SEC record: 27-65 (.293) RPI: 136, 116, 107, 127, 264 (avg. RPI: 150)Jenny Hazelwood (2009-2014; 6 seasons) overall win percentage: .286 SEC record: 20-96 (.172) RPI: 196, 179, 142, 235, 155, 233 (avg. RPI: 190)I had no idea that this program had performed worse, by a significant margin, under the most recent coach than in the 5 years prior. Since 2009, for instance, they haven't had a single year with an RPI as good as the second-worst during the Tina Seals years. Even if you exclude that awful 2012 season where MSU had no conference wins, the Hazelwood years are far worse. I'm not saying that Coach Hazelwood is necessarily the problem, but what seems clear is that MSU is progressively reducing its resources devoted to, and interest in and support for volleyball at a time when most would expect them to do the opposite, due to an increasing profile of the SEC and MSU. So where do they go for a new HC? My guess is that they are unlikely to find a coach as passionate and committed to long-term success, as Hazelwood (alum, was in it for long-haul), especially with that low salary. Do they interview the assistant coaches for the job? I quick look at the bios on the website shows that Samantha Wolinski has a lot of experience - maybe she's who they want? The other coach Peter is fairly new...It's a unique part of the country in that local ties probably hurt more than help. I can't help but think they are going to have real rough time with this hire. I don't know Hazelwood but I know in the last 3-4 years they have had more kids leave than any other program(I don't have number on other schools). Now long term success is built on culture and when you have a lot of kids leave every year for some reason or another you need to take a look in the mirror. Just my opinion. But 80-100K is probably ok for that part of the country. Yes other school in the conf might pay more but for an up and coming coach that's pretty big money for 28-32 year old. |
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Post by Not Me on Dec 4, 2014 14:26:21 GMT -5
Assistant Coach Needed at Missouri Southern State University Who: MSSU, enrollment around 5,600, DII, MIAA conference What: Asst. Coach's Position; salary around $28K; full time with benefits When: Position available after Jan. 1, 2015 Where: Joplin, Missouri (Historic Route 66 goes through town, home of one of Bonnie and Clyde's hangouts; lots of new construction on and off campus; 2.5 hours from KC; 3 hours from Oklahoma City; 4 hours from St Louis; 5.5 hours from Dallas; 6 hours from Memphis; 8.5 hours from Chicago) Why: It's DII which means shorter season than DI (you can have a life outside coaching); no travel in airplanes; the MIAA is a tough conference and is comparable to mid-major DI programs; we are on the upswing: most conference wins this year than last 3 years combined; cost of living is pretty low here and $28K can go a long way if you do things right; no club coaching responsibilities (unless desired); this would make a great job for a first-time asst. coach Here are just some of the (unofficial) qualities we're looking for: Someone who won't take this job and life too seriously -- yet still make this program one of the top 4 teams in the conference in 3 years or less; ability to make the head coach and players laugh; ability to make players better people while improving their vb skills; have outside interests and hobbies; over-coachers, yellers and negative-coaching-styled people need not apply. Official ad will soon appear on school's HR website and either the NCAA or AVCA sites. Please contact head coach for further information: napier-j@mssu.edu (417) 625-3043 Is this for real???!!!! I'm sure it is. Why wouldn't it be? |
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Post by Not Me on Dec 4, 2014 14:29:28 GMT -5
Charlotte (DI, NC) posted for an assistant
South Alabama (D1, AL) posted for an assistant
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Post by Not Me on Dec 4, 2014 15:00:55 GMT -5
Capital University (D3, OH) posted for a head coach.
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Post by vballguy2001 on Dec 4, 2014 15:27:37 GMT -5
.[/quote]I don't know Hazelwood but I know in the last 3-4 years they have had more kids leave than any other program(I don't have number on other schools). Now long term success is built on culture and when you have a lot of kids leave every year for some reason or another you need to take a look in the mirror.[/quote]
Probably not more transfers then Tennesse, and he seems like he is keeping his job
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 4, 2014 15:38:53 GMT -5
I'm not saying that Coach Hazelwood is necessarily the problem, but what seems clear is that MSU is progressively reducing its resources devoted to, and interest in and support for volleyball at a time when most would expect them to do the opposite, due to an increasing profile of the SEC and MSU. You are making the mistake of tying inputs to outputs. Mississippi State's athletic facilities in general and the VB facility specifically were upgraded a few times during Hazelwood's tenure. The Team was allowed to travel a great deal more under Hazelwood with a trip to Chicago and two to California the first 3 years she scheduled. And yes, her salary was reported to be more than her predecessor. Diminished results don't always indicate less effort. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 15:45:53 GMT -5
Capital University (D3, OH) posted for a head coach. She's been there for-ever. Hope she's moving on to something bigger and more fun, like retirement. Back in the day her teams used to kick some serious booty. Best of luck to you Pam! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 16:15:10 GMT -5
I'm sure it is. Why wouldn't it be? I thought it was awesome! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 16:37:56 GMT -5
Man, what people call poor salaries ($60k, etc). If you're a D-1 AD reading this--give me a holler. I'll win you games for $45k and be happy with that salary.
Really.
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 4, 2014 16:40:31 GMT -5
Man, what people call poor salaries ($60k, etc). If you're a D-1 AD reading this--give me a holler. I'll win you games for $45k and be happy with that salary. Really. "Don't ever do for free what you can get paid to do." That was a line delivered by a hitman in some movie. |
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Post by vballguy2001 on Dec 4, 2014 17:05:51 GMT -5
Man, what people call poor salaries ($60k, etc). If you're a D-1 AD reading this--give me a holler. I'll win you games for $45k and be happy with that salary. Really. Then apply, and good luck against Florida. |
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Post by fselte on Dec 4, 2014 17:07:10 GMT -5
Man, what people call poor salaries ($60k, etc). If you're a D-1 AD reading this--give me a holler. I'll win you games for $45k and be happy with that salary. Really. "Don't ever do for free what you can get paid to do." That was a line delivered by a hitman in some movie. Keep coaching club. I don't think any parent or player wants a coach that is willing to accept less. Are you going to be the same way with your budget? "I know you offered me a $200,000 budget, but just give me $75,000 and I'll win you a few games." |
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Post by ja on Dec 4, 2014 17:26:58 GMT -5
Add Citadel (DI, SC) to the list.
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