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Post by vbnerd on Dec 5, 2014 2:10:11 GMT -5
I'm just reading resumes, but tell me why Notre Dame volleyball needs experience when their women's lacrosse and women's soccer teams do not?
If they wanted experience, I think they could have stuck with Debbie Brown.
Look, I'd rather see a Craig Skinner there but I don't know why they would be so successful with young female coaches with little experience or even success in two other sports and then suddenly decide they needed to put up a top 5-10 salary for the new volleyball coach. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I just can't think of one, so I for one won't be shocked if it this hire seems to be off the wall at first.
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Post by Freeman on Dec 5, 2014 3:03:14 GMT -5
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Post by WildwoodVB on Dec 5, 2014 3:36:27 GMT -5
If the right person gets this job it could turn into a Mary Wise situation where recruiting could become a domino effect like no other and wins just stack up without having to really compete in-conference. FSU has found something similar in that league, but FSU is no "Notre Dame".
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 5, 2014 5:24:05 GMT -5
I can seeND turn into another Wisconsin. Not dating that they have a Carlini already recruited. But a possible juggernaut in a short time. I definitely can see raiding from other Catholic schools. And I can see hiring lesser known young and female coaches.
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Post by spikeninja on Dec 5, 2014 6:55:29 GMT -5
I'm just reading resumes, but tell me why Notre Dame volleyball needs experience when their women's lacrosse and women's soccer teams do not? If they wanted experience, I think they could have stuck with Debbie Brown. Look, I'd rather see a Craig Skinner there but I don't know why they would be so successful with young female coaches with little experience or even success in two other sports and then suddenly decide they needed to put up a top 5-10 salary for the new volleyball coach. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I just can't think of one, so I for one won't be shocked if it this hire seems to be off the wall at first. Agreed with this. But the hierarchy of sports in Ncaa puts VB well above soccer or lacrosse. And with lacrosse being pretty much brand new who the heck would have a long and storied resume? Who is a Russ Rose of lacrosse? Success spanning decades? |
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Post by Not Me on Dec 5, 2014 8:21:47 GMT -5
We have a hiring (or promotion) with a coach being awarded for a great season. "Thais Franca was thrown into one of the most awkward situations possible in her young coaching career. Franca was assisting Melissa Chaplin in hopes of building the University of Mary volleyball program. Chaplin was suspended in the midst of the season and Franca was named the acting head coach on Sept. 26. The school has never released the full details that led to Chaplin’s dismissal due to employee privacy and confidentiality issues. The fruits of Franca’s labor were rewarded on Thursday when she was officially named the head coach. U-Mary finished last season 4-25 overall and 1-19 in the conference." bismarcktribune.com/sports/franca-promoted-to-volleyball-coach/article_47c33082-7c3f-11e4-b67d-1352259b5d1c.htmlAnd one of the greatest lines from a bio ever: "Franca is certified with the USA Impact Volleyball Program with increased mastery and professional application of coaching theory." |
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Post by oldman on Dec 5, 2014 8:29:54 GMT -5
We have a hiring (or promotion) with a coach being awarded for a great season. "Thais Franca was thrown into one of the most awkward situations possible in her young coaching career. Franca was assisting Melissa Chaplin in hopes of building the University of Mary volleyball program. Chaplin was suspended in the midst of the season and Franca was named the acting head coach on Sept. 26. The school has never released the full details that led to Chaplin’s dismissal due to employee privacy and confidentiality issues. The fruits of Franca’s labor were rewarded on Thursday when she was officially named the head coach. U-Mary finished last season 4-25 overall and 1-19 in the conference." bismarcktribune.com/sports/franca-promoted-to-volleyball-coach/article_47c33082-7c3f-11e4-b67d-1352259b5d1c.htmlAnd one of the greatest lines from a bio ever: "Franca is certified with the USA Impact Volleyball Program with increased mastery and professional application of coaching theory." This year IMPACT will include SafeSport certification which will be a plus on any resume.  |
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Post by ja on Dec 5, 2014 8:39:49 GMT -5
Christie Johnson at Iowa State Todd Dagenais at Central Florida Lizzy Stemke at Georgia All have Mid West Ties I can see Todd moving! He is young enough, ambitious and experienced with great resume. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 8:46:42 GMT -5
What about another Todd? As in Kress for ND. He could get it done.
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Post by fan1111 on Dec 5, 2014 9:02:35 GMT -5
Kress?  He couldn't get it done at FSU when the league was weaker, how could he do it at Notre Dame now? |
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Post by ijokpl on Dec 5, 2014 9:03:20 GMT -5
Who left Charlotte?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 5, 2014 9:27:02 GMT -5
None of these four are going to be candidates at Notre Dame. Good coaches, great people, but this is an elite job. Hudson loves it at western and has taken passes at plenty of jobs. Barry, isnt going anywhere, Kepner doing well, but not dominating in his conference, Rosenthal like Hudson has turned down a lot of opportunities. Notre Dame in particular is as good a job potentially as any out there. Top flight academics, beautiful campus, history, located smack in the middle of some of the best club volleyball in the country, with the ability to draw kids from LA, Texas, Florida as well. If they commit the resources, they can lure top successful head coaches away from their jobs. Could be interesting. I would be looking more at Christy Johnson's, Craig Skinners...... Christy Johnson Lynch has 5 seasons left when she was making $166,000 before she signed her new deal in 2012. She has a six figure bonus coming her way soon and has to be closing in on $200,000 a year. Skinner has 3 years left on a deal that gets him to $200,000 per year. Notre Dame would have to start the bidding at more than $200,00 for either of them. This March they hired a new women's soccer coach from Darmouth where she was 4-12, 13-4, and 8-6-2 with no NCAA bids. This season she went 14-6-2 and made the 3rd round of the NCAA tournament. Three years ago they hired a lacrosse coach who was 43-44 at William and Mary, again, with no NCAA bids. The Lacrosse team has made the NCAAs all 3 seasons under Halfpenny, with a first round win this past season. With both of those low key moves playing out so well, I could easily see them following closer to that line of hiring than breaking the bank (they have to pay Muffet McGraw $650,000 per year practically forever, and have one more year left on Charlie Weis' contract at $2.1 million). Granted, they should get a chunk of change from the ACC, but I could see them going with Melissa Myers from Illinois St, or even Julie Darty who was at Villanova (catholic, in the Big East with ND) and just took Jacksonville to the NCAA tournament, maybe Allison Yeager of Seton Hall. I'm not saying they WILL go that way, but looking at recent patterns, don't be surprised if they do. That figure is peanuts at Notre Dame. Melissa Myers or Julie Darty, Allison Yeager? I think you are grossly underestimating the appeal of this job, as well as the resources that are available at Notre Dame, Notre Dame Football generated 96 million in revenue last year, second only to Texas. They also wouldnt have to come up with 200 k, they would have to pay new coach 50k more than the last one. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 9:51:45 GMT -5
I'm just reading resumes, but tell me why Notre Dame volleyball needs experience when their women's lacrosse and women's soccer teams do not? If they wanted experience, I think they could have stuck with Debbie Brown. Look, I'd rather see a Craig Skinner there but I don't know why they would be so successful with young female coaches with little experience or even success in two other sports and then suddenly decide they needed to put up a top 5-10 salary for the new volleyball coach. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I just can't think of one, so I for one won't be shocked if it this hire seems to be off the wall at first. The other coaches mentioned had at least 3 years of head coaching experience, Julie has one season. Running a program of JU's caliber and one of ND's caliber is two way separate things. Just because she is catholic, young, female, one winning season- doesn't mean she is prepared to run a huge program. |
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 5, 2014 9:54:46 GMT -5
I'm just reading resumes, but tell me why Notre Dame volleyball needs experience when their women's lacrosse and women's soccer teams do not? If they wanted experience, I think they could have stuck with Debbie Brown. Look, I'd rather see a Craig Skinner there but I don't know why they would be so successful with young female coaches with little experience or even success in two other sports and then suddenly decide they needed to put up a top 5-10 salary for the new volleyball coach. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I just can't think of one, so I for one won't be shocked if it this hire seems to be off the wall at first. Agreed with this. But the hierarchy of sports in Ncaa puts VB well above soccer or lacrosse. And with lacrosse being pretty much brand new who the heck would have a long and storied resume? Who is a Russ Rose of lacrosse? Success spanning decades? Don't ask why I know this but Kellie Amonte Hiller of Northwestern started the program in 2002 and won 7 of 8 national titles starting in 2004. She's the Russ Rose of Women's Lacrosse. And FYI, NCAA Women's Lacrosse goes back to the early 80's so while it's more popular now, there are proven coaches. ND just chose not to hire one. |
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Post by vbnerd on Dec 5, 2014 9:56:51 GMT -5
I'm just reading resumes, but tell me why Notre Dame volleyball needs experience when their women's lacrosse and women's soccer teams do not? If they wanted experience, I think they could have stuck with Debbie Brown. Look, I'd rather see a Craig Skinner there but I don't know why they would be so successful with young female coaches with little experience or even success in two other sports and then suddenly decide they needed to put up a top 5-10 salary for the new volleyball coach. I'm not saying there isn't a reason, I just can't think of one, so I for one won't be shocked if it this hire seems to be off the wall at first. The other coaches mentioned had at least 3 years of head coaching experience, Julie has one season. Running a program of JU's caliber and one of ND's caliber is two way separate things. Just because she is catholic, young, female, one winning season- doesn't mean she is prepared to run a huge program. Those names were representative of who they might choose if they went that way. I have no way of knowing which unknown female head coach they would tap from relative obscurity. |
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He couldn't get it done at FSU when the league was weaker, how could he do it at Notre Dame now?