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Post by trund on Nov 9, 2014 0:33:21 GMT -5
This post is more a question - for those in the know - than a statement.
After 4 years of bringing in classes made up of top 20-rated recruits, UW will sign 2 players (of less than 6 feet) out of the top 50 this week.
The one player who has committed for 2016 is in the same category. UW lost Hodson to Stanford and seems poised to lose a 6-5 elite player to the trees in 2016.
So, I wonder what is going on at UW. Has Jim just struck out with recruits while leading UW towards its best season in 11 years? Or, is he only recruiting the under-the-radar girls with lots of feistiness and character that he loves to much (as in: Nelson)? At this rate, in 3 years, UW will, seemingly, be fighting with Utah and Cal and WSU for that last playoff berth from the Pac-12.
I'm curious to know if any of the UW old-timers out there have any info or reactions to the recruiting trends on Montlake.
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Post by jgrout on Nov 9, 2014 0:48:10 GMT -5
JMac can always go back to... er, accepting... transfers.
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Post by trund on Nov 9, 2014 0:56:10 GMT -5
But, that would make him the only coach in America who does that, which would be a sin, in addition to revealing communist tendencies. So, after all the righteous criticism he got for following the rules earlier in his coaching tenure at UW, I'm sure he learned his lesson: Don't antagonize honest, fair & balanced, unbiased fans who want nothing but justice, just for the sake of making your team better.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 9, 2014 0:56:42 GMT -5
This post is more a question - for those in the know - than a statement. After 4 years of bringing in classes made up of top 20-rated recruits, UW will sign 2 players (of less than 6 feet) out of the top 50 this week. The one player who has committed for 2016 is in the same category. UW lost Hodson to Stanford and seems poised to lose a 6-5 elite player to the trees in 2016. So, I wonder what is going on at UW. Has Jim just struck out with recruits while leading UW towards its best season in 11 years? Or, is he only recruiting the under-the-radar girls with lots of feistiness and character that he loves to much (as in: Nelson)? At this rate, in 3 years, UW will, seemingly, be fighting with Utah and Cal and WSU for that last playoff berth from the Pac-12. I'm curious to know if any of the UW old-timers out there have any info or reactions to the recruiting trends on Montlake. I'm only concerned with the lack of middles recruiting. UW only has two scholarships available for next year, so we weren't expecting a big class for 2015. 2016 is just now getting its legs in terms of players committing. In terms of Hodson and Plummer, UW surely doesn't hedge its bets on one recruit a year. BTW, on paper talent doesn't always mean you are going to be the best, just ask USC. I'd be shocked if in 3 years UW falls to fighting for 9th in conference. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 9, 2014 0:58:40 GMT -5
Washington has apparently been perfectly willing to let people transfer out. As far as I know, they have not denied anyone a release. But more players transfer in than leave. I think it reflects well on the program that experienced players want to come here.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 9, 2014 1:26:30 GMT -5
Destiny Julye is listed as 5'11" at MaxPreps, but don't know how up to date that is. She could now be taller - regardless, she can jump out of the gym. She switched her commitment from UCLA to UW, so I don't think she was necessarily "under the radar". While the 2016 commit, Kara Bajema, is under the radar, she's not under 6', but is listed at 6'3".
Remember that JMac's success at UW was largely founded on northwest recruits, including Lee, Thompson, Morrison, Carlson, Rowland, Nelson, etc., of whom I believe only Morrison was not an under the radar recruit. With his record of developing players, I'd be inclined to trust his judgment.
Also, you have to figure that UW is stocked at the hitter, middle, setter, and libero spots through 2015. The next big recruiting class will be 2016, with only Bajema publicly committed.
Bajema's team, Lynden Christian, today clinched their 13th straight trip to the 1A state tournament. She had 14 kills on 17 swings.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 9, 2014 1:56:46 GMT -5
UW position in conference since 2001:
2001 8
2002 5
2003 5
2004 1
2005 1
2006 2
2007 2
2008 2
2009 2
2010 5
2011 4
2012 4
2013 1
2014 ??
That's a pretty good record of consistency in what was, over that span of time, the strongest conference in the NCAA. It is almost certain they will finish either first or second this year, too.
If you look at the last time they had a team like this (2005), they went on to a string of second place finishes and then fell to the 4-5 spot for a few years before bouncing back to number 1. Unless you are Stanford, with the ungodly recruiting draw that a Stanford diploma confers, you simply can't stay on top of this conference every year. There will be some down periods. But so far the Huskies have managed to stay in among the top teams in the conference for more than a decade, and I have no doubt that they will stay among the top over the next decade, too. The school seems committed to the volleyball program and McLaughlin and his assistants seem to continue to be successful at both winning and developing players.
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 9, 2014 2:52:48 GMT -5
Washington has apparently been perfectly willing to let people transfer out. As far as I know, they have not denied anyone a release. But more players transfer in than leave. I think it reflects well on the program that experienced players want to come here. I don't think UW grants releases just to be nice guys. Everyone benefits from the release: (a) the player who wants to leave can do so without drama and join a team with a better fit, and (b) UW now has room for a potentially better player. |
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Post by trund on Nov 9, 2014 4:19:07 GMT -5
So, you're saying that UW handles transfers just like every other division 1 school- is that it?
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 9, 2014 8:27:56 GMT -5
Washington has apparently been perfectly willing to let people transfer out. As far as I know, they have not denied anyone a release. But more players transfer in than leave. I think it reflects well on the program that experienced players want to come here. I don't think UW grants releases just to be nice guys. Everyone benefits from the release: (a) the player who wants to leave can do so without drama and join a team with a better fit, and (b) UW now has room for a potentially better player. Yeah, OK. It only makes sense. If a player doesn't want to be there anymore, it doesn't really help anybody to try to hold her there. So why do some people get so upset when players transfer? And why do some programs not grant releases to players? |
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Post by Sbilo on Nov 9, 2014 9:00:25 GMT -5
UW will be fine with Scambray and Jones on the team. But losing Vansant and Nelson will hurt the team so much and I don't see anyone stepping up, Schwan (sp?) I've seen her play in the Junior squad before and both her and Scambray are pretty much the same - the typical OH2. I agree, both Stanford and UW need to reload for 2016, good thing though there are a lot of outstanding players in the SOCAL for 2016.
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 9, 2014 11:26:35 GMT -5
I don't think UW grants releases just to be nice guys. Everyone benefits from the release: (a) the player who wants to leave can do so without drama and join a team with a better fit, and (b) UW now has room for a potentially better player. Yeah, OK. It only makes sense. If a player doesn't want to be there anymore, it doesn't really help anybody to try to hold her there. So why do some people get so upset when players transfer? And why do some programs not grant releases to players? Got me. One coach told me she doesn't grant releases on principle. The player made a commitment to the team and the coaching staff made a commitment to that player. She expects all players to keep their word. I suspect this "principle" applies only to the really good players. |
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Post by tomclen on Nov 9, 2014 11:28:18 GMT -5
Yeah, OK. It only makes sense. If a player doesn't want to be there anymore, it doesn't really help anybody to try to hold her there. So why do some people get so upset when players transfer? And why do some programs not grant releases to players? Got me. One coach told me she doesn't grant releases on principle. The player made a commitment to the team and the coaching staff made a commitment to that player. She expects all players to keep their word. I suspect this "principle" applies only to the really good players. And of course. any such 'principle' never applies to a member of the coaching staff who might get a better offer elsewhere. |
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Post by tomclen on Nov 9, 2014 11:29:27 GMT -5
And was this a troll thread? Is someone just trying to stir up a non-existent problem on Montlake?
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 9, 2014 12:34:39 GMT -5
You can't really complain about losing a recruit to Stanford. It would be like complaining about the weather. What Stanford wants is what Stanford tends to get, if she can get in. Of course, 2016 will also be a big recruiting class for Stanford, with Ajanaku, Burgess, Howard, Bugg, and McGehee all graduating. That could be why we're not hearing much about the 2016 class - everyone (recruits and coaches) is waiting to see what Stanford is going to do. Plummer is rumored to be going to Stanford, but who knows - she won't be able to set and hit there, unless Dunning starts running a 6-2.
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