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Post by BadgerAce42 on Mar 4, 2015 10:32:18 GMT -5
No disrespect to Sheff, but I'm curious if Wisconsin's success will continue after Carlini's graduation. Remember Cal post-Carli Lloyd? Didn't think so. Prior to Carlini’s arrival, Wisconsin went 5-15 in the conference; when I saw the match against the Huskers in 2012, I regrettably thought Wisconsin would be another fluff opponent in the B1G like Iowa. However, once Carlini took the reins, the Badgers turned their record around, finishing fourth in the conference by going 12-8. Last year the Badgers were 19-1, and I won’t even say anything about their schedule relative to the other schools that had winning records.  Anyway, I’m not sure if another setter would have had the same type of success for Wisconsin; that is, do we really believe that hitters like Thompson, Morales, and Chapman would have gotten the job done with a mediocre setter? I look forward to this fall and 2017, as both years will reveal how good Carlini and Sheff really are for Wisconsin. This year, Carlini’s hitters will be frosh and rookies, but I’m actually confident Wisconsin will still prevail, not because I believe the new hitters are going to dominate, but because Carlini will still do what she does best: diversifying the offense, delivering the ball on the dime at a fast tempo, pulling the opponent’s block on jump sets, and putting up formidable blocks against the opposing left sides. Once she graduates and Sheff is left with a new setter (and tenured hitters), it will be interesting to see if Wisconsin maintains a winning tradition, or if they’ll suffer the same fate of Cal without Lloyd. Personally, I hope Wisconsin stays toward the top, because it only makes the B1G that much stronger. Totally valid questions, but I think Hilley will have a chip on her shoulder and willing to prove the doubters I'm actually more curious what the record would have been if Sheff was HC 2012-2013. Waite did not get the most out of his players and many of them lacked confidence until Sheff arrived. |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Mar 4, 2015 10:37:16 GMT -5
No disrespect to Sheff, but I'm curious if Wisconsin's success will continue after Carlini's graduation. Remember Cal post-Carli Lloyd? Didn't think so. Sydney Hilley, provided she avoids any injuries between now and '17 is basically the same player as Carlini is and she still has 2 years to get even better. I am not saying by any means that she could step in tomorrow and do the same thing but the similarities are eerie. Juley will have a year - maybe 2 under her belt and will help to ease the transition. I do not see a drop off for the next 6 years. Of course optimism is the fans main strength and simultaneously their main curse right? |
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Mar 4, 2015 10:42:42 GMT -5
I think the biggest question aside from a Carlini successor, is how Wisconsin will do with loads of talent 2015-2017+. 2013 and 2014 had something irreplaceable: team chemistry fueled by a talented yet mentally strong class of 2015. You can't recruit that or replicate that... the team played for each other and it was really special to see.
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 11:13:01 GMT -5
Sydney Hilley, provided she avoids any injuries between now and '17 is basically the same player as Carlini is and she still has 2 years to get even better. I am not saying by any means that she could step in tomorrow and do the same thing but the similarities are eerie. Juley will have a year - maybe 2 under her belt and will help to ease the transition. I do not see a drop off for the next 6 years. I hope you're right; it helps the recruiting (and legacy) in the B1G when all of its members play at a high standard. Of course optimism is the fans main strength and simultaneously their main curse right? True that! I feel the need to summon some Journey on this one: don't stop believing! |
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Post by SportyBucky on Mar 4, 2015 11:14:31 GMT -5
Badger fans are looking through Sheffield-colored glasses in my opinion. I think Morgan will become a quality Big Ten player, but nothing about this video makes me run out and buy Badger season-tickets. Have you not learned anything from the past two years? I have, and it's that Carlini makes good players great. Period. Morgan is a top 15 player in her class AND she has a likely future olympic team member setting her. Do you really think Nelson is an amazing middle hitter? She hit for a very high percentage solely because Carlini got her solo attempts on nearly every ball. Morgan is further along NOW offensively than Haleigh was her freshman year. Nay-say all you like, but you will see what Carlini can do with an arsenal of decent to good hitters, assuming we have some passing. |
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 11:14:56 GMT -5
2013 and 2014 had something irreplaceable: team chemistry fueled by a talented yet mentally strong class of 2015. You can't recruit that or replicate that... the team played for each other and it was really special to see. Well stated. Indeed, the Badgers displayed a lot of cohesiveness and affinity this past season. Such chemistry, I believe, can be attributed to Sheff for fostering an environment that encourages rapport and helping the individual players see the bigger picture beyond themselves. |
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Post by noreaster on Mar 4, 2015 11:35:10 GMT -5
No disrespect to Sheff, but I'm curious if Wisconsin's success will continue after Carlini's graduation. Remember Cal post-Carli Lloyd? Didn't think so. Prior to Carlini’s arrival, Wisconsin went 5-15 in the conference; when I saw the match against the Huskers in 2012, I regrettably thought Wisconsin would be another fluff opponent in the B1G like Iowa. However, once Carlini took the reins, the Badgers turned their record around, finishing fourth in the conference by going 12-8. Last year the Badgers were 19-1, and I won’t even say anything about their schedule relative to the other schools that had winning records. Anyway, I’m not sure if another setter would have had the same type of success for Wisconsin; that is, do we really believe that hitters like Thompson, Morales, and Chapman would have gotten the job done with a mediocre setter? I look forward to this fall and 2017, as both years will reveal how good Carlini and Sheff really are for Wisconsin. This year, Carlini’s hitters will be frosh and rookies, but I’m actually confident Wisconsin will still prevail, not because I believe the new hitters are going to dominate, but because Carlini will still do what she does best: diversifying the offense, delivering the ball on the dime at a fast tempo, pulling the opponent’s block on jump sets, and putting up formidable blocks against the opposing left sides. Once she graduates and Sheff is left with a new setter (and tenured hitters), it will be interesting to see if Wisconsin maintains a winning tradition, or if they’ll suffer the same fate of Cal without Lloyd. Personally, I hope Wisconsin stays toward the top, because it only makes the B1G that much stronger. So the concern isn't that Wisconsin could sputter this year, it is that they might only be great for 2 more years? A lot can happen in 2 years. |
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 11:40:54 GMT -5
No disrespect to Sheff, but I'm curious if Wisconsin's success will continue after Carlini's graduation. Remember Cal post-Carli Lloyd? Didn't think so. Prior to Carlini’s arrival, Wisconsin went 5-15 in the conference; when I saw the match against the Huskers in 2012, I regrettably thought Wisconsin would be another fluff opponent in the B1G like Iowa. However, once Carlini took the reins, the Badgers turned their record around, finishing fourth in the conference by going 12-8. Last year the Badgers were 19-1, and I won’t even say anything about their schedule relative to the other schools that had winning records. Anyway, I’m not sure if another setter would have had the same type of success for Wisconsin; that is, do we really believe that hitters like Thompson, Morales, and Chapman would have gotten the job done with a mediocre setter? I look forward to this fall and 2017, as both years will reveal how good Carlini and Sheff really are for Wisconsin. This year, Carlini’s hitters will be frosh and rookies, but I’m actually confident Wisconsin will still prevail, not because I believe the new hitters are going to dominate, but because Carlini will still do what she does best: diversifying the offense, delivering the ball on the dime at a fast tempo, pulling the opponent’s block on jump sets, and putting up formidable blocks against the opposing left sides. Once she graduates and Sheff is left with a new setter (and tenured hitters), it will be interesting to see if Wisconsin maintains a winning tradition, or if they’ll suffer the same fate of Cal without Lloyd. Personally, I hope Wisconsin stays toward the top, because it only makes the B1G that much stronger. So the concern isn't that Wisconsin could sputter this year, it is that they might only be great for 2 more years? A lot can happen in 2 years. True, a lot can happen in 2 years for any team, not just Wisconsin. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Mar 4, 2015 12:06:08 GMT -5
2013 and 2014 had something irreplaceable: team chemistry fueled by a talented yet mentally strong class of 2015. You can't recruit that or replicate that... the team played for each other and it was really special to see. Well stated. Indeed, the Badgers displayed a lot of cohesiveness and affinity this past season. Such chemistry, I believe, can be attributed to Sheff for fostering an environment that encourages rapport and helping the individual players see the bigger picture beyond themselves. I'd say teams can be derailed by personalities and you absolutely can recruit against that. It is almost always evident, when observing a tourney, a practice, etc...that a player has an attitude. Question is, is that attitude such that it will destroy team chemistry (ala Nebraska) or is it something that can be corrected. I do believe observation, knowing coaching staff, both HS and club and talking to the kid reveals A LOT. With regard to replicating the most recent senior class, it was special. I do believe there's chemistry that propels a team, like these last couple years, there's chemistry that is neutral and doesn't help nor hurt a team, and there's destructive chemistry. You simply want to avoid the latter a strive for the former. |
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 12:29:28 GMT -5
Well stated. Indeed, the Badgers displayed a lot of cohesiveness and affinity this past season. Such chemistry, I believe, can be attributed to Sheff for fostering an environment that encourages rapport and helping the individual players see the bigger picture beyond themselves. I'd say teams can be derailed by personalities and you absolutely can recruit against that. It is almost always evident, when observing a tourney, a practice, etc...that a player has an attitude. Question is, is that attitude such that it will destroy team chemistry (ala Nebraska) or is it something that can be corrected. I do believe observation, knowing coaching staff, both HS and club and talking to the kid reveals A LOT. With regard to replicating the most recent senior class, it was special. I do believe there's chemistry that propels a team, like these last couple years, there's chemistry that is neutral and doesn't help nor hurt a team, and there's destructive chemistry. You simply want to avoid the latter a strive for the former. I'm still not sold on people's opinions that Nebraska lacked chemistry last year or that Kadie is a destructive teammate. IMO Kadie is no Derisilo, Gamova, or Tandara, who all seem to hamper the moods on their respective club and national teams. I've watched replays of some of our matches from last year (Texas, PSU in Lincoln, Purdue, Washington, and BYU) under the assumption that Kadie is a toxic teammate, but I didn't see anything in those matches that indicated poor sportsmanship or bad attitudes. If people are basing their opinions of Kadie on the match at PSU in which she got pulled in set one, I would contend that the defamation of her character is a bit extreme and unfair. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 12:42:41 GMT -5
No disrespect to Sheff, but I'm curious if Wisconsin's success will continue after Carlini's graduation. Remember Cal post-Carli Lloyd? Didn't think so. Sydney Hilley, provided she avoids any injuries between now and '17 is basically the same player as Carlini is. Not even close. There is no comparison. |
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 12:49:57 GMT -5
Sydney Hilley, provided she avoids any injuries between now and '17 is basically the same player as Carlini is. Not even close. There is no comparison. ...because Hilley is going to be better than Carlini or because she pales in comparison to Carlini? |
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 4, 2015 15:39:05 GMT -5
Not even close. There is no comparison. ...because Hilley is going to be better than Carlini or because she pales in comparison to Carlini? I have seen Hilley play and she is very good, but not on the same level as Carlini. Carlini is the kind of talent that is extra special because she plays position that is arguably the most important on the court, is 6'2" with great athleticism, has a great volleyball IQ, and has the "take no prisoners" competitive mentality. |
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Post by #skoskers on Mar 4, 2015 15:44:22 GMT -5
...because Hilley is going to be better than Carlini or because she pales in comparison to Carlini? I have seen Hilley play and she is very good, but not on the same level as Carlini. Carlini is the kind of talent that is extra special because she plays position that is arguably the most important on the court, is 6'2" with great athleticism, has a great volleyball IQ, and has the "take no prisoners" competitive mentality. What aspects of Hilley's game are similar to Carlini's? |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Mar 4, 2015 15:51:44 GMT -5
I have seen Hilley play and she is very good, but not on the same level as Carlini. Carlini is the kind of talent that is extra special because she plays position that is arguably the most important on the court, is 6'2" with great athleticism, has a great volleyball IQ, and has the "take no prisoners" competitive mentality. What aspects of Hilley's game are similar to Carlini's? I felt that Hilley was directly comparable to LC given her size and the way she moves. She blocks extremely well, probably much better than well actually. Her sets are crisp and precise. She digs, saw several balls that were down brought up when she dove under them. She spikes from the net and from the back. LC is "listed" at 6'2", SH is listed at 6'0" but they seem to be the same size. Everything I saw from her reminded me of LC. Granted I only saw her play half a dozen matches over 2 days but saw no weaknesses in any aspect of her game |
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