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Post by Wiswell on Mar 6, 2015 11:47:43 GMT -5
Let's examine this baby Jesus concept for just a moment. So, let's say baby Jesus is now grown up. The historical Jesus, was probably around 5 feet tall. Do you think a 5 foot tall setter is going to be effective in the Big Ten? He wasn't 6'2 feet tall and didn't look like Robert Powell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 11:51:21 GMT -5
Let's examine this baby Jesus concept for just a moment. So, let's say baby Jesus is now grown up. The historical Jesus, was probably around 5 feet tall. Do you think a 5 foot tall setter is going to be effective in the Big Ten? He wasn't 6'2 feet tall and didn't look like Robert Powell. Hahahah. FUNNY. There you go. The Wisconsin and Nebraska threads looked so serious. Need to break for moment of humor every once in awile.
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Post by northwoods on Mar 6, 2015 12:56:41 GMT -5
Granted I have only been following the game & Badgers for a couple years since the kids took up club volleyball & became big fans, but I have minimal expectations for the 2015 season. Al McGuire's musing about "the best thing about Freshmen is they become Sophomores" is going to come into play with a roster so dependent on contributions from new faces. Even the best freshmen hit a bit of a wall as classes and the jump up in intensity over HS & club take a toll. I'll be interested in LC's leadership and patience with the younger teammates and the inevitable miscues that are going to happen with inexperience. So far she has been the young phenom surrounded by experienced talent. You couple the youth with a wasted spring of no matches & practices that I can't imagine are very productive (how many 3 on 3 drills can you run?) and a league that is getting nothing but better across the board... I just see a bumpy ride ahead. She set a freshman her freshman year as well as someone who hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days. Her sophomore year he had a freshman OH1/2. I don't understand the comment. I'm just sayin' that 2015 is going to be a much different animal than the last couple years where they added 1 or 2 pieces to a veteran core. You are putting a team together with 7 kids experiencing college life for the first time, let alone BIG level competition. At least 3 will be relied upon to contribute heavily, and that is a recipe for inconsistency at least. Even in 2013 when they had 2 freshmen on the floor, the conference season was a 12-8 mish-mosh. KS will be earning his keep this summer/ fall forging this group into a smooth running machine. Not trying to harsh anyone's Bucky Buzz! Just voicing an appreciation for a pretty huge coaching & team leadership challenge that is going to be the 2015 season.
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Post by vbprisoner on Mar 6, 2015 13:15:07 GMT -5
No way Carlini allows the Badgers to slide. LC is finest leader I have seen in the Big Ten in over ten years. Plus, Morey will be a great second in command. Top three finish for UW! Arguably the best setter and the best libero in the country. Two positions that touch a lot of balls for Wisconsin. Pretty good place to be in considering they graduated/lost more than half the team. I think they'll be very good. I don't think you will find many to argue about LC. I already think she is the best volleyball player in college, and has the biggest impact to her team. Morey is top 5, and that's still impressive. If Carlini can lead the 2015 team to a top 3 B1G finish and deep run in NCAA then she may be able to walk on water.
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Post by SportyBucky on Mar 6, 2015 13:50:59 GMT -5
She set a freshman her freshman year as well as someone who hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days. Her sophomore year he had a freshman OH1/2. I don't understand the comment. Apparently saying wisconsin will be A favorite (not THE favorite) to win the b1g in 2017 is me hating penn state. LOL No. Saying we don't know how Lauren will deal with inexperienced freshman is the point of contention. I'm sorry if you weren't able to understand the thread or what I meant.
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Post by SportyBucky on Mar 6, 2015 13:54:07 GMT -5
She set a freshman her freshman year as well as someone who hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days. Her sophomore year he had a freshman OH1/2. I don't understand the comment. I'm just sayin' that 2015 is going to be a much different animal than the last couple years where they added 1 or 2 pieces to a veteran core. You are putting a team together with 7 kids experiencing college life for the first time, let alone BIG level competition. At least 3 will be relied upon to contribute heavily, and that is a recipe for inconsistency at least. Even in 2013 when they had 2 freshmen on the floor, the conference season was a 12-8 mish-mosh. KS will be earning his keep this summer/ fall forging this group into a smooth running machine. Not trying to harsh anyone's Bucky Buzz! Just voicing an appreciation for a pretty huge coaching & team leadership challenge that is going to be the 2015 season. Don't disagree, but it's not like Kriskova, an HM AA, hasn't been in practice and gotten to know the team. We also have an All Big Ten experienced Jr MH, an all Frosh team OH and Morey. I think we are getting better offense at OH. MH will be good by middle of the season. I think this is less about chemistry than it is about figuring out the best line up and developing the young players. Between Sheff and LC, I am more confident than not that we'll be pretty good next year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 14:30:26 GMT -5
Granted I have only been following the game & Badgers for a couple years since the kids took up club volleyball & became big fans, but I have minimal expectations for the 2015 season. Al McGuire's musing about "the best thing about Freshmen is they become Sophomores" is going to come into play with a roster so dependent on contributions from new faces. Even the best freshmen hit a bit of a wall as classes and the jump up in intensity over HS & club take a toll. I'll be interested in LC's leadership and patience with the younger teammates and the inevitable miscues that are going to happen with inexperience. So far she has been the young phenom surrounded by experienced talent. You couple the youth with a wasted spring of no matches & practices that I can't imagine are very productive (how many 3 on 3 drills can you run?) and a league that is getting nothing but better across the board... I just see a bumpy ride ahead. She set a freshman her freshman year as well as someone who hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days. Her sophomore year he had a freshman OH1/2. I don't understand the comment. Who did she set that hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 14:33:31 GMT -5
So far she has been the young phenom surrounded by experienced talent. Pretty interesting and inaccurate way to describe her role on that team, I think.
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Post by northwoods on Mar 6, 2015 17:36:31 GMT -5
So far she has been the young phenom surrounded by experienced talent. Pretty interesting and inaccurate way to describe her role on that team, I think. Is the inaccuracy in describing a Frosh/ Soph setter as young, or saying she's been phenomenal? I'll stand by both:)
I'm not sure what LC's role on the team has been the last 2 years outside of what I see on the court, which has been focused controlled field generalship IMO. Curious to see who fills the off-court/ locker room leadership roles with all the departing seniors?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 19:37:45 GMT -5
Pretty interesting and inaccurate way to describe her role on that team, I think. Is the inaccuracy in describing a Frosh/ Soph setter as young, or saying she's been phenomenal? I'll stand by both:)
I'm not sure what LC's role on the team has been the last 2 years outside of what I see on the court, which has been focused controlled field generalship IMO. Curious to see who fills the off-court/ locker room leadership roles with all the departing seniors?
The inaccuracy is your implication that she was somehow lucky to be surrounded by Chapman, Thomas, Morales, and Thompson. She wasn't. They were the lucky ones. She had to work her ass off to get that group to win matches.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 6, 2015 19:40:31 GMT -5
Is the inaccuracy in describing a Frosh/ Soph setter as young, or saying she's been phenomenal? I'll stand by both:)
I'm not sure what LC's role on the team has been the last 2 years outside of what I see on the court, which has been focused controlled field generalship IMO. Curious to see who fills the off-court/ locker room leadership roles with all the departing seniors?
The inaccuracy is your implication that she was somehow lucky to be surrounded by Chapman, Thomas, Morales, and Thompson. She wasn't. They were the lucky ones. She had to work her ass off to get that group to win matches. Agreed. But, weren't nearly all of them ranked pretty high on Prepvolleyball. What happened before carlini that kept them at a mediocre level? I mean, carlini can make any team good, but there was no reason for wisconsin to struggle that much before.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 19:48:27 GMT -5
The inaccuracy is your implication that she was somehow lucky to be surrounded by Chapman, Thomas, Morales, and Thompson. She wasn't. They were the lucky ones. She had to work her ass off to get that group to win matches. Agreed. But, weren't nearly all of them ranked pretty high on Prepvolleyball. What happened before carlini that kept them at a mediocre level? I mean, carlini can make any team good, but there was no reason for wisconsin to struggle that much before. There was no reason? K. You're the expert.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 6, 2015 19:50:05 GMT -5
Agreed. But, weren't nearly all of them ranked pretty high on Prepvolleyball. What happened before carlini that kept them at a mediocre level? I mean, carlini can make any team good, but there was no reason for wisconsin to struggle that much before. There was no reason? K. You're the expert. There is no reason. Im almost positive they were ALL ranked in the top 100 of the senior aces, and most in the top 50. They had all the talent in the world. They should of done better than their record. Im sure there was behind the scenes issues, but purely talent wise, they had plenty of it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 19:52:46 GMT -5
There was no reason? K. You're the expert. There is no reason. Im almost positive they were ALL ranked in the top 100 of the senior aces, and most in the top 50. They had all the talent in the world. They should of done better than their record. Im sure there was behind the scenes issues, but purely talent wise, they had plenty of it Beautiful analysis of the complexity of team dynamics.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 6, 2015 19:55:40 GMT -5
There is no reason. Im almost positive they were ALL ranked in the top 100 of the senior aces, and most in the top 50. They had all the talent in the world. They should of done better than their record. Im sure there was behind the scenes issues, but purely talent wise, they had plenty of it Beautiful analysis of the complexity of team dynamics. let me guess, chemistry right? Im sorry, but Wisconsin underachieved before carlini came. They had THE TALENT, according to tawa, to succeed at the college level. Im sure other wisconin fans would agree they underacheived. But look at them now. One of the top 5 teams in the nation. And while carlini is a HUGE HUGE part of that, the players talent is also a big part of it
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