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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 19:56:37 GMT -5
Beautiful analysis of the complexity of team dynamics. let me guess, chemistry right? Im sorry, but Wisconsin underachieved before carlini came. They had THE TALENT, according to tawa, to succeed at the college level. Im sure other wisconin fans would agree they underacheived. But look at them now. One of the top 5 teams in the nation. And while carlini is a HUGE HUGE part of that, the players talent is also a big part of it What are you even talking about? Who said they didn't underachieve? |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 6, 2015 20:06:22 GMT -5
She set a freshman her freshman year as well as someone who hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days. Her sophomore year he had a freshman OH1/2. I don't understand the comment. Who did she set that hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days? Definitely not Chappy. She hit all the way through. So did Deme, IIRC. So it would have to be Court he's referring to, but that's inaccurate, seeing as how her freshman year, she was a setter/hitter in the 6-2 with Nellie Gabrielsen. And I think she ran a 6-2 in SPVB also. So... I dunno. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 20:08:05 GMT -5
Who did she set that hadn't hit a ball in competition since her early HS club days? Definitely not Chappy. She hit all the way through. So did Deme, IIRC. So it would have to be Court he's referring to, but that's inaccurate, seeing as how her freshman year, she was a setter/hitter in the 6-2 with Nellie Gabrielsen. And I think she ran a 6-2 in SPVB also. So... I dunno. Right. I'm confused too. |
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Post by Wiswell on Mar 6, 2015 20:32:41 GMT -5
Carlini and Sheffield came in at the same time. It is impossible to extract which of those two factors had the greater weight on their turnaround.
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 7, 2015 1:07:33 GMT -5
I think we can also all agree that, for whatever reason, the team played below it's potential before the arrival of Sheff and LC, but the arrival of those two raised the potential significantly above where it was before. Chemistry played a role too. Sheff got them to buy in to his philosophy, and the hardship and eventual success the team went through really bonded them together.
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Post by kabvb on Mar 7, 2015 8:37:54 GMT -5
I'm seriously bummed about the cancellation of spring season.
Reading over some of these latest comments,as much as I hate to admit it Carlini is the difference maker for this team.
Thomas and Hickey were phenomenal to start but the rest were mediocre
I'm not taking anything sway from Sheffield either he's also made a huge impact but Carlini is the one on the court.
The test will be this year battling injury and dealing with a lot of inexperience.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 12:02:22 GMT -5
A change at the head coaching position is normally going to initiate a positive change - at least for a while. That is why the university fires one coach, and raises the salary and provides the resources to find another. Pete had lost his fire and confidence. Sheffield brought some good things. That being said, Carlini is a unique act. She has made Sheffield, and everyone else in the Badger program look very good. Wisconsin had some talented players, but they were getting beat. Carlini has made them winners.
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Post by Wiswell on Mar 7, 2015 14:11:24 GMT -5
So we all agree the team will stink in 2017 and also the fact that in 2015 with 7 freshman there will no transitional problems? That is a bummer about 2017 then.
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 7, 2015 15:42:39 GMT -5
Actually, I think the team will be strong in 2017. They will have a great cadre of experienced, high level performers at other positions. The level of talent at those other positions will be on a level with many of the best programs in the country, and many of those programs have done well even though LC is not setting them. Don't see why same cannot happen at UW.
It will be really sad when Lauren goes, but the setters of the future will not be asked to carry the team as much. Hannah will have experience under LC to burn by that point. Sydney will be just fine as well.
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Post by Wiswell on Mar 7, 2015 18:05:52 GMT -5
Sorry, bb. I forgot to use my sarcasm font above....
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Post by bballnut90 on Mar 7, 2015 19:31:39 GMT -5
Actually, I think the team will be strong in 2017. They will have a great cadre of experienced, high level performers at other positions. The level of talent at those other positions will be on a level with many of the best programs in the country, and many of those programs have done well even though LC is not setting them. Don't see why same cannot happen at UW. It will be really sad when Lauren goes, but the setters of the future will not be asked to carry the team as much. Hannah will have experience under LC to burn by that point. Sydney will be just fine as well. Wisconsin will be outstanding in 2017 post Carlini. Their depth chart could be: S-Hilley/Juley OH-Bates/Duello/Loberg/Whalen RS-Fricano MB-Morgan/Williams/Rettke DS/L-McDonald/Saunders/Dodge Hilley is supposed to be a top setter, Bates will be a 4 year starter as a senior, Duello will be an upperclassman after being a top 10 recruit, Loberg/Whalen will be highly ranked, Fricano will be a 5th year senior (and she has all the potential in the world...it hasn't come through yet but she has 3 more years), Morgan/Williams are top middle recruits who will be juniors, Rettke was offered by Penn State and will be a top recruit, McDonald was a HS AA, Saunders is a stronger passer and Dodge is outstanding. The Badgers are going to be VERY very good into the future, even post Carlini. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 7, 2015 19:39:59 GMT -5
Sorry, bb. I forgot to use my sarcasm font above.... Yeah I know...I was agreeing with your implicit criticism of suggestions that UW would have trouble after LC graduates. In the end, her biggest impact on the program may prove to be the step up in recruiting that followed her arrival. Some of that is down the Sheff, but you feel that his job is made a lot easier by Carlini having made the leap to begin with, and the success that followed. |
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Mar 7, 2015 19:42:24 GMT -5
Actually, I think the team will be strong in 2017. They will have a great cadre of experienced, high level performers at other positions. The level of talent at those other positions will be on a level with many of the best programs in the country, and many of those programs have done well even though LC is not setting them. Don't see why same cannot happen at UW. It will be really sad when Lauren goes, but the setters of the future will not be asked to carry the team as much. Hannah will have experience under LC to burn by that point. Sydney will be just fine as well. Wisconsin will be outstanding in 2017 post Carlini. Their depth chart could be: S-Hilley/Juley OH-Bates/Duello/Loberg/Whalen RS-Fricano MB-Morgan/Williams/Rettke DS/L-McDonald/Saunders/Dodge Hilley is supposed to be a top setter, Bates will be a 4 year starter as a senior, Duello will be an upperclassman after being a top 10 recruit, Loberg/Whalen will be highly ranked, Fricano will be a 5th year senior (and she has all the potential in the world...it hasn't come through yet but she has 3 more years), Morgan/Williams are top middle recruits who will be juniors, Rettke was offered by Penn State and will be a top recruit, McDonald was a HS AA, Saunders is a stronger passer and Dodge is outstanding. The Badgers are going to be VERY very good into the future, even post Carlini. I'd also like to see how Maddie Smith develops into a possible role player. Dodd will also be at DS/L, but I've not heard much about her. Maybe we'll get a nice transfer in there, too. |
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Post by northwoods on Mar 7, 2015 23:51:48 GMT -5
So we all agree the team will stink in 2017 and also the fact that in 2015 with 7 freshman there will no transitional problems? That is a bummer about 2017 then. And thank god we have gotten rid of that dead-weight senior class! LC can save puppies and bring peace to the Middle East now that she doesn't have to spend time dragging them uphill to the BIG Championship... |
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Post by mplssetter on Mar 8, 2015 0:24:05 GMT -5
Hilley, who is a 2017, will likely be the best setter to come out of the state of MN in a long time. Badgers got a good one.
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