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Post by northwoods on Mar 15, 2015 21:17:34 GMT -5
If not this Bingo, I'd anticipate a ju co transfer or 2 to maybe walk on & build up the roster to a size where they can have full practices despite future injury or other issues.
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 15, 2015 21:20:35 GMT -5
The practice pictures posted so far do look lonely...that is for sure. Maybe Annemarie is getting some time in now that she is back as assistant coach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 22:05:06 GMT -5
Do you guys thinks Bates will be starting next season? Or do you guys see Bates on the starting line up in the years coming? Nothing is a guarantee with Sheff. You have to earn it every day in practice. But I like her odds. Who would be the alternative? |
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 15, 2015 23:02:08 GMT -5
One of the frosh...Duello, or even Williams, or Saunders. Fric in there as well, although people on here think she looks better as a RS.
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Post by wiscvball on Mar 15, 2015 23:24:01 GMT -5
I may eat my words, but I don't think there is any way Bates doesn't start next year. She's an exceptional 6 rotation outside hitter who over the last 13-15 matches of the season was playing at a level higher than most other B1G outsides, her teammate Chapman included. She may never be an all american, but having a solid server, blocker, passer, defender and attacker all in one player is a really good thing. And she has proved she can do all of that at a high level. If she puts it all together for a whole season, the awards will come her way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 1:08:37 GMT -5
One of the frosh...Duello, or even Williams, or Saunders. Fric in there as well, although people on here think she looks better as a RS. There is no chance any of those four athletes start over Kelli Bates. When is the last time you saw Saunders, Fricano, or Williams play? |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 16, 2015 5:27:08 GMT -5
Nothing is a guarantee with Sheff. You have to earn it every day in practice. But I like her odds. Who would be the alternative? I didn't have a particular alternative in mind next year. I've previously said and continue to think that it'll be Bates and Duello on the left in 2015. I was just qualifying my statement with the observation that Sheffield seems to take a very "What have you done for me lately?" approach to lineups, so nobody gets to rest on her laurels. 2017 is the year I'n wondering about, anyway. We're bringing in these stud OHs in Whalen and Loberg, and we'll also have Duello and Bates (I think Saunders is a RS). So there will be quite a bit more competition. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 7:30:27 GMT -5
Who would be the alternative? I didn't have a particular alternative in mind next year. I've previously said and continue to think that it'll be Bates and Duello on the left in 2015. I was just qualifying my statement with the observation that Sheffield seems to take a very "What have you done for me lately?" approach to lineups, so nobody gets to rest on her laurels. I wouldn't characterize his approach to be like that. For the most part, sans injuries, he's had a lineup and he's stuck with it. Very few changes. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 16, 2015 7:54:55 GMT -5
Your making a mountain out of a badger hill again. No one is disagreeing with you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 7:59:50 GMT -5
Your making a mountain out of a badger hill again. No one is disagreeing with you. I didn't say you were. You were, however, toying with the idea that there are people with the ability to start over Bates when you haven't seen them play recently (or ever). I was simply asking what your frame of reference was. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 16, 2015 8:10:45 GMT -5
I didn't have a particular alternative in mind next year. I've previously said and continue to think that it'll be Bates and Duello on the left in 2015. I was just qualifying my statement with the observation that Sheffield seems to take a very "What have you done for me lately?" approach to lineups, so nobody gets to rest on her laurels. I wouldn't characterize his approach to be like that. For the most part, sans injuries, he's had a lineup and he's stuck with it. Very few changes. "Lately" as in during the preseason, not day-to-day. Let me clarify. For example, after everything Deme did for the Badgers as a hitter in 2013, many thought she would start in 2014, and argued that she deserved it. But the team was doing better in 2014 with Bates at OH, so Deme did not start at OH. Bates did. My point is that if someone comes along who is better than Bates, then that person will get the start over her. I don't think that is going to happen, at least not this year, and probably not next year. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 16, 2015 8:28:53 GMT -5
And surely...few of us had seen Bates play (not much anyway) or expected her to step in. But she did. No point in pretending it couldn't happen, although I too think it very unlikely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 9:03:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't characterize his approach to be like that. For the most part, sans injuries, he's had a lineup and he's stuck with it. Very few changes. "Lately" as in during the preseason, not day-to-day. Let me clarify. For example, after everything Deme did for the Badgers as a hitter in 2013, many thought she would start in 2014, and argued that she deserved it. I don't remember this. I remember the opposite, actually, with many, especially those who saw Bates tearing it up for Ultimate for the six months before she left for Madison, saying that Morales would have a very difficult time keeping her spot. Regardless, that isn't the same scenario as what is happening now. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 16, 2015 9:07:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't characterize his approach to be like that. For the most part, sans injuries, he's had a lineup and he's stuck with it. Very few changes. "Lately" as in during the preseason, not day-to-day. Let me clarify. For example, after everything Deme did for the Badgers as a hitter in 2013, many thought she would start in 2014, and argued that she deserved it. But the team was doing better in 2014 with Bates at OH, so Deme did not start at OH. Bates did. My point is that if someone comes along who is better than Bates, then that person will get the start over her. I don't think that is going to happen, at least not this year, and probably not next year. That's a bit counter to your original point "you have to earn it every day in practice." Yes, if someone better transfers in, then Bates will have some pressure for PT (though I'd actually still like her above Duello in 2015). But earning it every day in practice implies someone on the current roster/planned recruits is going to overtake her (in fact, 2, as Chapman graduated). That's not going to happen, which is why the comment seemed off. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Mar 16, 2015 10:15:46 GMT -5
"Lately" as in during the preseason, not day-to-day. Let me clarify. That's a bit counter to your original point "you have to earn it every day in practice." Which is why Rainbow said "let me clarify." We can all agree that Bates is likely to have the starting spot. Remember, this whole line of conversation started with a query from alt about whether Bates would start. It's ok to turn that question over in our heads, especially as I'm not sure what instigated it in the first place. So...any word on this new BINGO? |
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