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Post by digitdan on Jun 24, 2023 22:52:13 GMT -5
Looks like we dodged a bullet by not entertaining Oregon! My daughter had heard some things about this coach and it looks like she was right! I imagine there will be other things that come to light soon!
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Jun 25, 2023 1:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by JJVb on Jun 25, 2023 1:49:21 GMT -5
Situations like this are very tough and unfortunate. Wish all parties the best and peace.
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Post by vbfamily on Jun 25, 2023 2:49:41 GMT -5
As well as many others, even an athlete that transferred in the off season.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 25, 2023 3:43:20 GMT -5
Looks like we dodged a bullet by not entertaining Oregon! My daughter had heard some things about this coach and it looks like she was right! I imagine there will be other things that come to light soon! I’m not sure who who your daughter is but IMO this seems like a non story. Among the elite programs, this should just be expected. You think all these players from Texas or Nebraska just wake up one day and think “ya, I think I should transfer”? If you aren’t producing, and the long term outlook is shaky, you should expect that the program will have something to say about it. If you are expecting something other than that, don’t sign with an elite program. I don’t even have a kid being recruited and can easily call this situation.
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Post by liberosetter101 on Jun 25, 2023 3:58:43 GMT -5
Looks like we dodged a bullet by not entertaining Oregon! My daughter had heard some things about this coach and it looks like she was right! I imagine there will be other things that come to light soon! Are you sure about this current Oregon head coach? Could’ve been the previous one she was talking about
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 25, 2023 5:50:46 GMT -5
Idk I read it twice and it read like the athlete being stubborn about where they were at and what was realistic for their future and I don’t even cape for the Oregon program like that…
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Post by simpleton on Jun 25, 2023 7:32:49 GMT -5
What a disappointing article. If ever there were a situation where the narrative would be completely different if the other side of the story were known. . .
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Post by vbstan123 on Jun 25, 2023 8:51:04 GMT -5
Almost all the girls who were on the team this past year (including Nunviller) posted support for Matt on their insta stories...
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Post by jengal on Jun 25, 2023 11:22:46 GMT -5
I was wondering about Williams and her status. There are always two sides to the story. I feel bad for Williams and her situation, but this story seems sensationalized and the truth probably isn’t this extreme.
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Post by davethecoug on Jun 25, 2023 14:05:55 GMT -5
Looks like we dodged a bullet by not entertaining Oregon! My daughter had heard some things about this coach and it looks like she was right! I imagine there will be other things that come to light soon! I’m not sure who who your daughter is but IMO this seems like a non story. Among the elite programs, this should just be expected. You think all these players from Texas or Nebraska just wake up one day and think “ya, I think I should transfer”? If you aren’t producing, and the long term outlook is shaky, you should expect that the program will have something to say about it. If you are expecting something other than that, don’t sign with an elite program. I don’t even have a kid being recruited and can easily call this situation. I wanted to re-read the article when typing this (to make sure my facts are correct), but it's now behind a paywall.
I agree with ay2013 that the way Oregon handled this situation is what is currently expected by "elite" programs. Hence, the critical tone of the article seems unbalanced. Any player/parent that doesn't like this reality should avoid all Top-50 programs.
It's unfortunate that a double standard (for elite vs non-elite) is often applied. If this situation happened at a program that is not considered "elite", many VT posters would criticize the program for abandoning the player. The standard applied by the volleyball community should be the same regardless of the program's status.
On a side note; Is it true that a player becomes "athletically ineligible for all universities" if they are taken off an athletic scholarship and given a normal scholarship? I can understand why the player would no longer be athletically eligible at Oregon, but why would she be athletically ineligible at other universities? This would have given the athlete time to recover from injury before entering the transfer portal. The article wasn't clear on this and it makes me wonder it the athlete simply didn't want to transfer anywhere else.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 25, 2023 14:31:39 GMT -5
I’m not sure who who your daughter is but IMO this seems like a non story. Among the elite programs, this should just be expected. You think all these players from Texas or Nebraska just wake up one day and think “ya, I think I should transfer”? If you aren’t producing, and the long term outlook is shaky, you should expect that the program will have something to say about it. If you are expecting something other than that, don’t sign with an elite program. I don’t even have a kid being recruited and can easily call this situation. I wanted to re-read the article when typing this (to make sure my facts are correct), but it's now behind a paywall.
I agree with ay2013 that the way Oregon handled this situation is what is currently expected by "elite" programs. Hence, the critical tone of the article seems unbalanced. Any player/parent that doesn't like this reality should avoid all Top-50 programs.
It's unfortunate that a double standard (for elite vs non-elite) is often applied. If this situation happened at a program that is not considered "elite", many VT posters would criticize the program for abandoning the player. The standard applied by the volleyball community should be the same regardless of the program's status.
On a side note; Is it true that a player becomes "athletically ineligible for all universities" if they are taken off an athletic scholarship and given a normal scholarship? I can understand why the player would no longer be athletically eligible at Oregon, but why would she be athletically ineligible at other universities? This would have given the athlete time to recover from injury before entering the transfer portal. The article wasn't clear on this and it makes me wonder it the athlete simply didn't want to transfer anywhere else. The bargain with “medical retirement” is that you keep your scholarship and access to student support services, and you no longer count against the team’s scholarship cap, but you are done-done playing (because theoretically you are too injured to play anymore). I know of several athletes who’ve transferred rather than medically retire because they disagreed with staff ant their original school about whether they could/should keep playing.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 25, 2023 16:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 25, 2023 20:05:46 GMT -5
Just to recap our 3 commits for 2025:
Logan Bell, 5-11 OH, IN (Circle City) Kenna Coogill, 6-4 MB, AZ (AZ Storm) Kamden Mitchell, 5-10 S, OR (OJVA)
Welcome to the Ducks!
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Post by JJVb on Jun 26, 2023 15:48:21 GMT -5
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