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Post by Psychopotamus on May 3, 2003 6:14:24 GMT -5
It's easy to see that age isn't that big of an issue, because teams aren't made up entirely of 26 year old freshman. It's a big world and the 30 or so men's volleyball programs could easily fill their rosters with the so-called advanced, older, super players, but they don't.
Coaches are out to get the best players available possible. If you don't think your coach is doing it, it isn't because other coaches are doing anything wrong or unethical, they are just better at their job.
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Post by Anonymous Beachman on May 3, 2003 9:07:06 GMT -5
Dear 'Not Richee"(who are you then, Fonze?), perhaps, just perhaps there are still some coaches out there who believe that they are there to "teach" and coach, and that a very big part of all of this is to take young, recent H.S. graduates and help them develop into the best players that they can be. Maybe, just maybe they don't develop quickly enough to ever win a National Championship(in this geriatric world of Collegiate Men's VB today), but in time many of them may still develop enough to play on the US MEN'S NATIONAL TEAM! My alma mater, Long Beach State has done a pretty good job of that as I check the roster(s) in Colorado Springs. Just a thought from someone who has probably been around a lot longer than you have perhaps. I like a good home cooked meal.......you probably don't even know what that is!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 3, 2003 14:00:41 GMT -5
The Fonze ? heeeeeyyyyyyy, correctamundo ( I'll watch a Happy days rerun every now and then ). AB, I hear what you're saying, but people may be annoyed not by the package of your argument, but by it's presentation. Oh and the best venue for collegiate volleyball is the Stan Sheriff Center, NOT the pyramid.
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Post by Anonymous Beachman on May 3, 2003 14:06:04 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I know is that there isn't a bad seat in our house. In yours there is! I know, I have been in them!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 3, 2003 14:11:57 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I know is that there isn't a bad seat in our house. In yours there is! I know, I have been in them! So have I, but I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Btw, every seat in the Pyramid is a bad seat....... .
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Post by Anonymous Beachman on May 3, 2003 16:22:38 GMT -5
Well my friend, all I can say is that the NCAA folks don't agree with you, people who attend games at the Pyramid don't agree with you, and your response is illustrative of both your age and your lack of maturity!
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Post by tigfan on May 3, 2003 16:35:43 GMT -5
I hated playing in the pyramid and watching in the pyramid... what an extreme waste of funds and space... what the hell does a giant blue pyramid have to do with Long Beach State...? Pyramids should be reserved for the burial of dead Pharoahs and that's it. Stan Sheriff Center...far better place to play and observe...
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Post by umm on May 3, 2003 17:29:00 GMT -5
Well my friend, all I can say is that the NCAA folks don't agree with you, people who attend games at the Pyramid don't agree with you, and your response is illustrative of both your age and your lack of maturity! And that coming from someone that says LBSU's site is incorrect on the birthdates of its players which of course in a later post claims it is correct.
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Post by Eater on May 3, 2003 18:31:53 GMT -5
I hated playing in the pyramid and watching in the pyramid... what an extreme waste of funds and space... what the hell does a giant blue pyramid have to do with Long Beach State...? Pyramids should be reserved for the burial of dead Pharoahs and that's it. Stan Sheriff Center...far better place to play and observe... Speaking of tombs and wastes of space, I never much liked the Spanos center...
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Post by DD on May 3, 2003 19:05:10 GMT -5
Well my friend, all I can say is that the NCAA folks don't agree with you, people who attend games at the Pyramid don't agree with you, and your response is illustrative of both your age and your lack of maturity! What an A$$HOLE
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on May 3, 2003 22:31:16 GMT -5
The Anonymous Beachman dosen't mean to be one, If he's one, it's by default .... just kidding AB. AB you don't have to go jumping off into the deep end of the pool again. I don't see how my response is illustrative or indicative of my age or " lack of maturity ", that's far more apparent in some of my other posts . I was kidding in saying there is no good seat in the pyramid, as indicated by the wink... .
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Post by sweetieVBfan on May 4, 2003 3:45:48 GMT -5
so AB and others,
what you're saying is that it's wrong to give those who play an education? most of these foreigners wouldn't get the benefit of an american education without volleyball. think about that too.
and costas sent his video to wilton. wilton wasn't looking for him,
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Post by hawaii guest on May 5, 2003 19:35:32 GMT -5
Your observations are NOT lost of some of us who still believe that a significant part of this whole sport is to take YOUNG MEN and make them into OLDER AND BETTER VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS! The setter for Lewis is 27 YEARS OLD. For those of you who don't believe it, he got in before the age rules were implemented. BYU has some of the same type age old players. Not what I would call a level playing field, unless of course you make it a significant part of your program's strategy to recruit the older, much more internationally experienced players, instead of the home grown type products. Theocaridis is another example of someone who is 4 to 5 years older than many of his competitors. Oh well....it's the way it is!! Costas is 24 I believe, which is maybe 2 years older than other seniors. He was born in 79
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Post by IdahoBoy on May 5, 2003 19:49:25 GMT -5
I don't think many readers here have ever been to Memorial Gym at the University of Idaho for volleyball! I know, not men's, but the facility truly is a great atmosphere and the fans are nearly in the match because the seating is so close. Back to the topic though, one thing many overlook, I think, regarding age of players is that international students (esp. European) have more years in school than is required in the US. Judging from some of the posts I've read here, perhaps that would be a GOOD thing for us too.
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Post by H2O on May 6, 2003 3:55:51 GMT -5
I think you are on to something I-Boy. Then all univerisites can have players who need Rogaine like Paal and Martins. I know for a fact I have more hair on my head then they do. I guess the balding thing has to more intimidating to opposing players. I think Theo can use some of that Rogaine too.
Regarding age of any student I think it is not an issue. Either you have the athletes or you don't. And keep in mind that the NCAA only cares about age requirements because of football. In other words no football, then no age requirements.
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